Sturm ducked GGG as a middleweight so what makes you think he would be interested as a SMW? And in case you haven't been following the program, Golovkin is not interested in moving up for anything other than a PPV fight. Sturm - GGG is not a PPV in the US which is where GGG wishes to make his name.
Because now Golovkin is coming to the table with HBO's backing/money. You add that Sturm is already 36, 14 years into his pro career, and the risk/reward calculus is quite different.
Golovkin-Sturm is a PPV fight in Germany, draws interest in the US and UK, and draws pretty well throughout the rest of Europe. US PPV or not, Golovkin-Sturm gets him closer to being a PPv fighter than fighting the three names that have been bantered around for him.
Ie i was full of sh1t when i said he goes after the smaller guys only. Gotcha, figures
A fight that wasn't ever going to happen (Froch) and a fight that business screwed up (Chavez Jr).
If you want to use those only two example, because Team Golovkin refused to even acknowledge Ward's existence before he was 15 months out of the ring and the belief that ringrust may have finally set it became obvious, to justify the continuing with the 15:1 fights and calling out Mayweather/Cotto (clearly smaller fighters) and Alvarez (a fighter, who has the potential, but has yet to fill out into a true middleweight), so be it. lol
Told GGG wants 2 fight southpaw & 2 much negative reaction 2 my fight online. Just wish ppl wouldve thought more Be careful what u wish 4— Tureano Johnson (@Tureano1984) March 13, 2015
The question that needs to be asked here is, why does Golovkin specifically want a southpaw?
Andy Lee & BJS are southpaws, but that WBO title shot won't be happening til the end of the year at earliest, more likely next March.
K2 has stated they want to fight in San Antonio this year, perhaps against the local guy - Lara?
While Heiland is a southpaw, there are way better options.
Monroe - who's not quite ready
Andrade - who has no options and HBO has the right to match offer - maybe killing any Haymon deals
Korobov - who would make a better fight with GGG than Heiland or Johnson
People complain about GGG going after Cotto and Canelo by calling them 'little guys' but then suggest Lara and Andrade, both Jr. MWs, as options. Let them work their way up to MW first and then they can try for a fight with GGG. As for Korobov, he just lost his title shot against Lee and does not deserve another one until he gets a couple of fights in to prove himself again.
All I'm saying is put forward the offer. If K2 offers Golovkin to fight in Germany, while also bringing over the HBO money, Sturm has a far bigger fight than whatever he's got scheduled (Abraham-Steiglitz is a mandatory fight, so there's that).
There are fights that can be made that are far better than trying to get folks excited for Golovkin-Johnson or some other no-hoper fight.
Sturm ducked GGG as a middleweight so what makes you think he would be interested as a SMW? And in case you haven't been following the program, Golovkin is not interested in moving up for anything other than a PPV fight. Sturm - GGG is not a PPV in the US which is where GGG wishes to make his name.
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The only names coming out of Team Golovkin's mouth are Cotto, Alvarez, and Mayweather. Yet 'Golovkin isn't chasing the little guys' GTFOH
Cotto because he holds the WBC title. If he vacates the title you will never hear him mentioned again. Alvarez and Mayweather are never brought up by GGG or his team but always by interviewers asking a question. Of course they will answer that they would be interesting in fighting them. What would you expect them to say? That they aren't?
I'd say Johnson has some decent insight, given he's getting it from Shaw who's talking with Loeffler.
I agree Monroe would seem like the best option of the 3 journeymen level options talked about, but I think Willie would benefit alot from atleast 1-2 more fights against top 15 level opposition. It would make the Golovkin fight a bigger event and a give a win over Monroe more value. But I'd be thrilled if he fought Monroe in May & Lara in August though, especially if Hearn stays to his word of Froch/Golovkin at the end of the year.
Personally, I have no interest in the Lara fight, I had him down against Angulo and losing to a flat-footed Canelo. In August, I would like to see Golovkin v N'dam/Lemieux winner or Lee if he beats Quillin.
He doesn't? Johnson and Monroe have been posting all sorts of stuff, I'm not sure any of it is grounded in reality.
Willie Monroe Jr is 28 years old, he's as ready as he's going to be, that should be the fight imho.
I'd say Johnson has some decent insight, given he's getting it from Shaw who's talking with Loeffler.
I agree Monroe would seem like the best option of the 3 journeymen level options talked about, but I think Willie would benefit alot from atleast 1-2 more fights against top 15 level opposition. It would make the Golovkin fight a bigger event and a give a win over Monroe more value. But I'd be thrilled if he fought Monroe in May & Lara in August though, especially if Hearn stays to his word of Froch/Golovkin at the end of the year.
Told GGG wants 2 fight southpaw & 2 much negative reaction 2 my fight online. Just wish ppl wouldve thought more Be careful what u wish 4— Tureano Johnson (@Tureano1984) March 13, 2015
The question that needs to be asked here is, why does Golovkin specifically want a southpaw?
Andy Lee & BJS are southpaws, but that WBO title shot won't be happening til the end of the year at earliest, more likely next March.
K2 has stated they want to fight in San Antonio this year, perhaps against the local guy - Lara?
While Heiland is a southpaw, there are way better options.
Monroe - who's not quite ready
Andrade - who has no options and HBO has the right to match offer - maybe killing any Haymon deals
Korobov - who would make a better fight with GGG than Heiland or Johnson
He doesn't? Johnson and Monroe have been posting all sorts of stuff, I'm not sure any of it is grounded in reality.
Willie Monroe Jr is 28 years old, he's as ready as he's going to be, that should be the fight imho.
Told GGG wants 2 fight southpaw & 2 much negative reaction 2 my fight online. Just wish ppl wouldve thought more Be careful what u wish 4— Tureano Johnson (@Tureano1984) March 13, 2015
The question that needs to be asked here is, why does Golovkin specifically want a southpaw?
Andy Lee & BJS are southpaws, but that WBO title shot won't be happening til the end of the year at earliest, more likely next March.
K2 has stated they want to fight in San Antonio this year, perhaps against the local guy - Lara?
While Heiland is a southpaw, there are way better options.
Monroe - who's not quite ready
Andrade - who has no options and HBO has the right to match offer - maybe killing any Haymon deals
Korobov - who would make a better fight with GGG than Heiland or Johnson
Froch has accomplished everything that he's ever wanted to accomplish, outside of a major Vegas fight; fighting Golovkin, an admitted tough fight, at a 20,000 seat venue in England is nowhere near the rush of fighting in front of 80,000 of your fellow countrymen. Unless Golovkin becomes a name that could headline the MGM Grand, Froch could give a **** about Golovkin.
Chavez-Golovkin fell through because Top Rank was dicking around with the money. Ignore that if you want.
To try and act as if there's no other fight available for Golovkin, other than the nonsense being pushed, I can't do anything but laugh.
Ie i was full of sh1t when i said he goes after the smaller guys only. Gotcha, figures
He said he would fight Froch in the UK, crickets. Signed a contract for Chavez who then got cold feet.
Froch has accomplished everything that he's ever wanted to accomplish, outside of a major Vegas fight; fighting Golovkin, an admitted tough fight, at a 20,000 seat venue in England is nowhere near the rush of fighting in front of 80,000 of your fellow countrymen. Unless Golovkin becomes a name that could headline the MGM Grand, Froch could give a **** about Golovkin.
Chavez-Golovkin fell through because Top Rank was dicking around with the money. Ignore that if you want.
To try and act as if there's no other fight available for Golovkin, other than the nonsense being pushed, I can't do anything but laugh.
abraham and stieglitz are fighting each other. sturm has a fight scheduled. are you just complaining for the sake of complaining?
All I'm saying is put forward the offer. If K2 offers Golovkin to fight in Germany, while also bringing over the HBO money, Sturm has a far bigger fight than whatever he's got scheduled (Abraham-Steiglitz is a mandatory fight, so there's that).
There are fights that can be made that are far better than trying to get folks excited for Golovkin-Johnson or some other no-hoper fight.
Daggum defending ggg till the end. Gotta give you props for even finding a way to justify this garbage fight
sorry i actually look at things with nuance. if i just looked at ggg vs heiland yea its not very good. but why isn't it very good? because the relevant guys either ducked ggg or aren't available. i'm not going to fault ggg because that happened. ggg's going to fight 4 times and that's a good thing. his popularity keeps rising and the more he fights the more pressure is put on the top guys.
Abraham vs Golovkin in Germany. Golovkin vs Sturm/Steiglitz in Germany. just to name a few.
Him versus basically any super middleweight in the top 25 is better that Golovkin-Heiland/Golovkin-Monroe/Golovkin-Johnson or any other nothing that that they're hoping HBO will pay for.
You're looking forward to another 15:1 fight for Golovkin? lol
Sturm, Stieglitz, Abe lol. These will be rematching each other till kingdom come. Sturm is probably the biggest Ggg ducker to date, and no chance washed up Abe goes near Ggg. Terrible suggestions
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The only names coming out of Team Golovkin's mouth are Cotto, Alvarez, and Mayweather. Yet 'Golovkin isn't chasing the little guys' GTFOH
they tried to fight froch and chavez. you know the little guys. ggg's trainer just had an interview where he said ward doesn't want to fight him so what exactly are you talking about? you seem confused. its like you want to hate on ggg but you have nothing so you are just making things up. why not just say he's ducking mora? that would probably make more sense.
lol
The only names coming out of Team Golovkin's mouth are Cotto, Alvarez, and Mayweather. Yet 'Golovkin isn't chasing the little guys' GTFOHHe said he would fight Froch in the UK, crickets. Signed a contract for Chavez who then got cold feet.
Abraham vs Golovkin in Germany. Golovkin vs Sturm/Steiglitz in Germany. just to name a few.
Him versus basically any super middleweight in the top 25 is better that Golovkin-Heiland/Golovkin-Monroe/Golovkin-Johnson or any other nothing that that they're hoping HBO will pay for.
You're looking forward to another 15:1 fight for Golovkin? lol
abraham and stieglitz are fighting each other. sturm has a fight scheduled. are you just complaining for the sake of complaining?
Lara is not a Middleweight and GGG is not Miguel Cotto looking to lighter weight classes for his opponents.
Golovkin fights FOUR times a year, not twice or once like most other 'champions'. It is unrealistic to expect him to always have a top 5 contender in the ring with him as there simply aren't enough of them. And the other so called 'elite' fighters in the division don't have the stones to get in the ring against him. His next fight should rightly be against Cotto, but he's looking for an easy target instead.
lol
The only names coming out of Team Golovkin's mouth are Cotto, Alvarez, and Mayweather. Yet 'Golovkin isn't chasing the little guys' GTFOH