We all see that Canelo is no longer comfortable making 154. And after he beats Kirkland, his next fight should be at the Middleweight limit of 160.
But who, out of the current crop at 160 do you think Canelo beats?
I believe he beats everyone, including GGG.
What is your opinion?
Does he beat, Cotto, Lee, Murray, Saunders, Quillin, Eubank, etc?
And ginger beats everyone except ggg because? Let me think, he has his a$$ hand it to him by floyd, got a close win against trout and definitely lost to Lara (although I was happy Lara didn't get the decision), and ppl here think he will beat Quillin a murderous puncher regardless of his "doesn't make business" attitud, Murray, Macklin, Lee, Cotto and all the others while fighting at 155, we have a lot of knowleadge fans...
Canelo has a tendency of gassing later in the fight, surely that would spell disaster for him if he's across from GGG.
Yeah, Gennady really got to show off his gas tank against Murray and I liked what I saw. If Canelo starts to take breaks during rounds like he did against Floyd and Trout, it won't end well. That's when Golovkin will trap him on the ropes and start pounding away.
the reason some non-title fights are fought over the weight is because they are usually tune ups and the fighters have less time to prepare. canelo has months to prepare and yet he's fought his last 3 fights at 155. this is a main event ppv and 2 guys in the same division are fighting at 155. it makes no sense. he doesn't want to struggle to make weight but he doesn't want to fight at 160 because he would be killed. hence the canelo-division.I guess you really believe Canelo can't make 154 but he is afraid to move up 6 pounds and fight full sized middleweights. You are sure entitled to believe what you want. I am a big Canelo fan and I don't believe what you say about him. If I though he was a chicken fighter I would not be a fan of his. He has said he would fight GGG and he has sparred with GGG. I believe Canelo. I just hope Oscar keeps him away from GGG. As far as that goes Canelo could join the middleweights and fight them all except GGG like the rest of the middleweights do. So go ahead and call Canelo a chicken who is hiding out at 155. I think time will prove you wrong. Canelo is a fearless boxer who doesn't fear any opponent unlike a certain middleweight champion.
Watch the Strum fight, no matter how you cut it Martin should've won both those fights (Maravilla and Strum) he is a solid MW and IF Canelo does fight him, that's already my respect to Ginger.
Murray is a stiff test for Canelo, no matter how you cut it. Martin is a solid MW in every aspect other than power.
i had murray winning over maravilla, heck even argentinian comentetors had their cards for murray, but maravilla was already looking like crap...
ill try to watch the sturm fight later, im not saying murray is a bum, but i wouldnt put him above the likes of canelo, lara or even andrade...
that will be a fun fight no doubt, but the way i see it canelo will have murray there to unleash his combos...
Thanks Sugar Adam Ali, Trinidad was my favorite fighter when he fought at 147 and 154. Trinidad could be knocked down although he was quickly back up. So far nobody has really hurt GGG or knocked him down.
im not going against your picks, i just have a different opinion when it comes to murray, if any im surprissed you picked canelo above the rest...
i told you sooner or later you will be a canelo fan...
about murray, i didnt see his fight vs sturm, but the maravilla fight it wasnt about murray, it was about maravilla being shot to sçhiett..
i dont see murray as a great boxer, he has good chin and slightly below average power for his division...
i think that canelo is a better boxer over all, just smaller but that wouldnt be a difference maker since murray doesnt carry big power...
Watch the Strum fight, no matter how you cut it Martin should've won both those fights (Maravilla and Strum) he is a solid MW and IF Canelo does fight him, that's already my respect to Ginger.
Murray is a stiff test for Canelo, no matter how you cut it. Martin is a solid MW in every aspect other than power.
The reason I say Canelo beats them all including GGG. Is because GGG showed me in the Murray fight that his defence is suspect and a fighter with good movement ,power and aggression would cause him some major problems.
I think GGG's defense plays into his strategy to wear his opponnents down. For a guy who's never fought at middleweight where GGG has fought and virtually dominated every fight, it's almost impossible seeing Canelo win.
What has Canelo done to make me pick him over a proven MW like Martin?
im not going against your picks, i just have a different opinion when it comes to murray, if any im surprissed you picked canelo above the rest...
i told you sooner or later you will be a canelo fan...
about murray, i didnt see his fight vs sturm, but the maravilla fight it wasnt about murray, it was about maravilla being shot to sçhiett..
i dont see murray as a great boxer, he has good chin and slightly below average power for his division...
i think that canelo is a better boxer over all, just smaller but that wouldnt be a difference maker since murray doesnt carry big power...
It's hilarious how we are debating a fighter, who has never fight a natural MW but yet fights at MW.
Oh well :sad: maybe one day he will fight at his true weight.
Like I said, make a poll
It's hilarious how we are debating a fighter, who has never fight a natural MW but yet fights at MW.
Oh well :sad: maybe one day he will fight at his true weight.
1) have you seen the Strum or Martinez fight? Germany and Argentina, home town cooking. He beat both of them.
2) What clear wins does Canelo have at JMW? Lara was at MW, this is Canelos third fight at MW.
2 unofficial wins vs old, hurt, past prime champions? he couldn't even put these guys away? :dunno:
Lol Lara has more fights at "middle weight" than canelo does, you do know that right? Or does my boy icha have to post the pictures again ? :lol1:
Murray has done absolutely nothing in a sh1tty weight division, he couldn't even put an injured Sergio away while a WW came up and did it :dunno:
Canelo has good wins in a deep division and you and all the other haters are always complaining he's a MW, he would be much more comfortable and have more stamina, probably more power too. Murray would get stopped if not outclassed bad. It's not even a toss up fight, make a poll If you want.
1) have you seen the Strum or Martinez fight? Germany and Argentina, home town cooking. He beat both of them.
2) What clear wins does Canelo have at JMW? Lara was at MW, this is Canelos third fight at MW.
give beer some time to come out of the closet, he is already putting canelo ahead of the division, that coming from him is a lot, thats a beginning...
Lol Murray sucks so bad, dude has no power. GGG had 0 respect for his punches, at times it looked like he literally stuck his chin out so Murray can try and hurt him :lol1: at least vs Stevens, GGG got backed up a little and felt his power. Murray is so garbage I can't even believe this is a discussion :rofl:
give beer some time to come out of the closet, he is already putting canelo ahead of the division, that coming from him is a lot, thats a beginning...
What has Canelo done to make me pick him over a proven MW like Martin?
Murray has done absolutely nothing in a sh1tty weight division, he couldn't even put an injured Sergio away while a WW came up and did it :dunno:
Canelo has good wins in a deep division and you and all the other haters are always complaining he's a MW, he would be much more comfortable and have more stamina, probably more power too. Murray would get stopped if not outclassed bad. It's not even a toss up fight, make a poll If you want.
give beer some time to come out of the closet, he is already putting canelo ahead of the division, that coming from him is a lot, thats a beginning...
The sad thing is... There's no blockbuster fights at 160 but GGG. Canelo would have to drag up smaller more elite fighters just to sell tickets, then NSB would still be crying.