Pac haters are discrediting Pac's win over a young, hungry, undefeated talent like Algieri, because of how easily Pac dominated him. This is unfair, Algieri was coming off beating this perceived beast in Provodnikov, showing lots of resilience, heart and skills in that fight. Algieri got steamrolled by Pac because Pac's a speed beast who didn't respect his power, but i reckon he'd outbox a bunch of top fighters out there. Slow and /or flatfooted fighters like Broner or Danny Garcia would have their hands full with Algieri. Algieri would ¨herrera¨ Garcia again. I expect Chris to become champ again one day
My only problems with Chris is he was given 4 pounds so he didnt have to kill himself to make 140 and he failed to make the 144 pound weight smh. Also his trainer sucks, Chris has talent he just needs to learn to sit on his shots more and get a legit trainer with purpose, not a hippy.
If you kindly read what I have said, it has nothing to do with what you have said...I said: "he fights whoever is in front of him". As far as not fighting anybody, relatively Pacquiao has fought more (quantity) and fought more quality opponents than Mayweather over a large spectrum of weight classes and styles.
Mayweather created a "niche" in his weight division after he has tapered into a comfortable weight and didn't want to go beyond that because he doesn't like taking risks. Pacquiao relatively went up and down inorder to accomodate what it is store for him likewise.
I also believe in TIMING. As Pacquiao was climbing the weight ladder he fought the best in that current time and moving on. Mayweather could have even gone a bit higher as far as Junior Middleweight or Middleweight and still be able to compete with his size, but no staying put and only fighting an average of 2 fights a year most specially in the last decade.
So I respectfully disagree.
Saying Manny fights "whoever is in front of him" is a cop out because you can say the exact same phrase for Floyd, he fights whoever is in front of him. And at least in Floyd's case, he wins every time.
And what are these quality opponents Manny is beating? He beat De La Hoya, Morales, and Barrerra when they were all on the down swing of their careers and ended up losing a lopsided decision to Morales in the process.
And I don't think Floyd is big enough for middleweight just like Manny is not big enough for light middle weight. Their frames are too small.
Exactly and most specially for one who is a self-proclaimed TBE...Pacquiao never really talk and fights whoever is in front of him (and yes wanted to fight Mayweather for so long)...
God forbid you would hold Pac responsible fand or anything. "Fights whoever is in front of him". Any fighter will do that! Arum said on many occasions that PAC is the one that picks the final opponent. And if he REALLY wanted to find Mayweather, he didn't need to wait "so long", he could've done it in 2009, rather than go along with Arum and make up lies and excuses as to why not to. Or he would've opened his mouth in 2012 and told Arum to make the fight. Stop making excuses for the guy, he is just as responsible as anyone else for the fight not being made before now.
Paulie is the more accomplished fighter. The verdict is still out whether Algieri will accomplish the same as even Paulie. Mind you, Paulie has been boxing much longer than Algieri had at the age Algieri is at now. These are facts.
I have to agree to me that is Algeri's ceiling maybe he can become a richman version of Paulie with the right management and some breaks.
He has lot to prove and do to get to that level though.
Pac haters are discrediting Pac's win over a young, hungry, undefeated talent like Algieri, because of how easily Pac dominated him. This is unfair, Algieri was coming off beating this perceived beast in Provodnikov, showing lots of resilience, heart and skills in that fight. Algieri got steamrolled by Pac because Pac's a speed beast who didn't respect his power, but i reckon he'd outbox a bunch of top fighters out there. Slow and /or flatfooted fighters like Broner or Danny Garcia would have their hands full with Algieri. Algieri would ¨herrera¨ Garcia again. I expect Chris to become champ again one day
Yeah, let us pretend Algieri wasn't discredited as a Pac opponent when it was first announced. Let us just fantasize that everyone started doing after he was beaten by Pac.
No,
Algeiri > paulie
At this point
But I understand you are a fl0mo and use basic resume arguments
Paulie is the more accomplished fighter. The verdict is still out whether Algieri will accomplish the same as even Paulie. Mind you, Paulie has been boxing much longer than Algieri had at the age Algieri is at now. These are facts.
Lol no-one cares about pacs victory over algeiri and nobody will in the future
Algeiri is well-conditioned athlete with height and reach, neither of which he uses as good as he can do
He has no power and never will
He does have heart but in the PAC fight you can see he almost quit. He was in survival mode. Rios wasn't. Rios tried landing power punches but kept missing .
Eventually algeiri is gonna have to move up to 147 and that's bad news for a guy with little pop
When it's all said and done, Mannys win over algeiri will be merely a footnote in pacs legacy
The funny thing is he would have been better off fighting Malignaggi. Malignaggi at least has a better resume and has fought and become champion at 147.
He didn't school him, that was a close fight. Did you see Algieri's face in the end of the fight. It was a face far from schooling
not discrediting the point you're making, but using the "look at his face" argument is retarded
his face looked like that from one single round, not from a sustained beating over 12 rounds
Chris beat Broner's last opponent with ease and Broner had some tough moments with him.
Triangle Theories.
Plus no one is hyping Broner up anymore, he's also a B level fighter.
No it won't.
Pac has plenty of great wins on his resume, Morales, Barrera, Delahoya, Bradley and etc.
No need to try to force Algeri into that list, the fight sucked, and was always a mismatch, should have never happened.
Algeri while a DECENT fighter, should have never been in the ring with a ATG.
Also he lost to Provodo, the only reason why the media changed tune was because he scored a Pac fight. And HBO had no choice at that point but to try to hype
Lol no-one cares about pacs victory over algeiri and nobody will in the future
Algeiri is well-conditioned athlete with height and reach, neither of which he uses as good as he can do
He has no power and never will
He does have heart but in the PAC fight you can see he almost quit. He was in survival mode. Rios wasn't. Rios tried landing power punches but kept missing .
Eventually algeiri is gonna have to move up to 147 and that's bad news for a guy with little pop
When it's all said and done, Mannys win over algeiri will be merely a footnote in pacs legacy
Algieri was never supposed to get the fight. It was gonna be Pac vs Provo but Algieri ruined it. With nobody left for pac to fight at TR, they went with Chris.
Whether the guy ends up being good or not doesn't even matter, it won't be remembered on pacs resume anyway. The one thing you can't take away is how bad Chris did at that level of competition. All it shows is that there are good fighters then there are Greats like Manny and Floyd who make good fighters look like absolute trash.
That is most definitely not true. Algieri's best win over Provo is way better than Guerrero's over Berto.
Stupidity knows no bounds with you. Check Guerrero's career and championship fights and compare to Algieri's non-career in boxing.
Floyd's win over Guerrero > Pac's win over Algieri
That is most definitely not true. Algieri's best win over Provo is way better than Guerrero's over Berto.
no. pac ran away from drug testing not the fight.
No. He ran away from Mayweather's demands, not the testing...it was a matter of DAYS' differences before the fight.
To keep to the topic of this thread, Algieri will never be known or remembered. I never heard of him before his fight with Pac.
Pac will follow him after May 2nd. Pac will be a journeyman for the young and upcomers to feast on. Good riddance.
I'm sure Paclovers love these kinda posts and analysis.
I think it will. Algieri has to win a few more titles, but I think he will. I think he can beat Crawford. Thats not to say he will, rather, he can if he has a good gameplan.