GGG looked bad in spells, but we also need to realise that Murray is a solid fighter. To expect an early KO/TKO with someone who hasn't been dropped before is unrealistic.
Pac won't KO Mayweather for example.
I think that fight goes the distance with a much bigger ring.
Smaller ring=much easier to cut off
More chances your opponent will be trapped on the ropes because of no maneuverability, more opportunities for GGG to do what he does best.
This is common sense.
Murray was up 2-3 in the beginning, GGG was able to get to him so early because of that tiny ring. A bigger ring would've allowed Murray to extend that lead even more, GGG eventually would've caught him, but it wouldn't have been until later in the fight. Murray could've easily been up 5-0 before that happened, much fresher and up on the cards, changes the entire dynamic of the fight.
The baby ring allowed GGG to get to him early, do damage early than later which affected the fight. GGG was getting drilled by body shots and that's why he was slowing down, again, if Murray was fresher he would've easily been able to capitalize on that.
Every time GGG hurt him, there Murray was, trapped on the ropes, while Murray was able to out box him in the center of the ring consistently. Again, the earlier damage MM had taken affected Murray later on in the fight from that baby ring, a fresher Murray would be able to hold the center of the ring much more easily, work off the ropes. This fight ends in a close decision in a bigger ring imo.
I'm just looking at it without much bias as possible.
no he wasn't. he didn't even win a round if you are judging fairly. you must have been scoring underdog points. ggg wasn't slowing down. he had great stamina, great workrate, and power late in the fight. wtf were you watching? yep a close decision. murray was robbed basically.
i'm glad you are being unbiased. credit to you...lol!
Murray is as average as average gets. But so is just about every other mw not named golovkin. Which is why Miguel cotto is the lineal champion...If Cotto would fight GGG instead of Bundrage or Bradley or Rios we would find out who the real middleweight champ is. If Cotto fought Murray I would place a large bet on Murray to win if the fight was at 160 pounds.
I think that fight goes the distance with a much bigger ring.
Smaller ring=much easier to cut off
More chances your opponent will be trapped on the ropes because of no maneuverability, more opportunities for GGG to do what he does best.
This is common sense.
Murray was up 2-3 in the beginning, GGG was able to get to him so early because of that tiny ring. A bigger ring would've allowed Murray to extend that lead even more, GGG eventually would've caught him, but it wouldn't have been until later in the fight. Murray could've easily been up 5-0 before that happened, much fresher and up on the cards, changes the entire dynamic of the fight.
The baby ring allowed GGG to get to him early, do damage early than later which affected the fight. GGG was getting drilled by body shots and that's why he was slowing down, again, if Murray was fresher he would've easily been able to capitalize on that.
Every time GGG hurt him, there Murray was, trapped on the ropes, while Murray was able to out box him in the center of the ring consistently. Again, the earlier damage MM had taken affected Murray later on in the fight from that baby ring, a fresher Murray would be able to hold the center of the ring much more easily, work off the ropes. This fight ends in a close decision in a bigger ring imo.
I'm just looking at it without much bias as possible.
In my eyes, and my prediction, the fight went how I thought it would. Late TKO with Murray's defense saving him for a long time, but his lack of power not being able to keep Golovkin off of him. I really have no opinion of how GGG looked or how Murray looked because they both looked like I thought they would. Fans expected TKO3-6 or whatever but that was unrealistic given Murray's defense. I thought GGG would get him out of there in 9-10 rounds Murray lasted one more round than I thought and he was TKO'ed standing up.
He is a hell of a puncher. The hardest puncher in boxing pound for pound in my opinion. It's no wonder Cotto refuses to fight him. Cotto has been knocked down many times and knocked out by welterweights. I doubt he would last more than a round or two with GGG.
Did you read what you just typed. "Pac Knock Maywearher down 3 times"
This is not Chris Algieri we are talking about. It's Floyd Mayweather.
Pacquiao will be lucky to land 3 clean punches in the whole fight, forget about 3 knockdowns.
Did you read what you just typed. "Pac Knocks Maywearher down 3 times"
This is not freakin Chris Algieri we are talking about. It's Floyd Mayweather.
Pacquiao will be lucky to land 3 clean punches in the whole fight, forget about 3 knockdowns.
Did you skip the words "What if" or did you just choose to ignore it to make a stupid post? My point was he doesn't have to KO Mayweather to win, and he doesn't.
Did you read what you just typed. "Pac Knocks Maywearher down 3 times"
This is not freakin Chris Algieri we are talking about. It's Floyd Mayweather.
Pacquiao will be lucky to land 3 clean punches in the whole fight, forget about 3 knockdowns.
They were making a point based on conjecture. It is different than making a prediction. And until the fight actually happens, your point about Pacquiao being ineffective against Floyd is also merely speculation. Don't try to pass it off as fact before it happens.
GGG's past 6 opponents are a combined 194 wins with 19 loses. In his 32 bouts he has fought 3 men with loosing records all within his first 4 bouts.
I can't figure what kind of a boxing fan wouldn't like this young man. He's in shape, he has an open 160lb contract (maybe the money isn't right)? he comes into the ring in shape, and he tries to stop his opponents.
Whats not to like?
He can punch hard, he cuts the ring with little effort and his opponents PRAISE
him.
respect from your opponents tells you everything you need to know as to respecting the man.
This type of fighter only comes around so often these days, enjoy it!
Ray.
He doesn't have to... What if Pac knocks Floyd down 3 times?
Did you read what you just typed. "Pac Knock Maywearher down 3 times"
This is not Chris Algieri we are talking about. It's Floyd Mayweather.
Pacquiao will be lucky to land 3 clean punches in the whole fight, forget about 3 knockdowns.
If Manny knocks down Floyd twice early then once late then stops him via TKO, you think anyone will be saying Manny got hit too much in the fight? People just need something to complain about that's all
Did you read what you just typed. "Pac Knocks Maywearher down 3 times"
This is not freakin Chris Algieri we are talking about. It's Floyd Mayweather.
Pacquiao will be lucky to land 3 clean punches in the whole fight, forget about 3 knockdowns.
Everyone were writing Murray off before the fight. I bet most of them haven't seen Murray fight before, maybe except for Sergio fight.
I say the opposite. The people who wrote Murray off were the ones who actually saw Murray's last four fights where he looked absolutely awful, including a fortunate decision against Khomitsky.
If Golovkin managed to fight to fight Murray directly after his Martinez performance, it would have been considered a tough fight and a great win. But we know how boxing works. It's about keeping up an illusion for the longest time possible, and about being the first to expose someone's illusion before someone else gets to it. Khomsky, and then indirectly Cotto broke Murray's illusion before Golovkin got to him. So it's hard to rate it as some amazing win.
Martin is a top opponent so GGG has proved he is a top notch fighter to do that to Murray. Murray afterall did beat Sergio in Argentina lets face it.
GGG has been accused of not haven beaten anyone too good as theres no exceptional talent in the division. But Murray was a solid opponent, real solid, and GGG couldn't have looked much better. Wasn't perfect by all means, and he can improve believe it or not and there are things to work on perhaps. You have to have that attitude if you want to get better. But its not necessary even as hes better than the rest anyway.
Everyone were writing Murray off before the fight. I bet most of them haven't seen Murray fight before, maybe except for Sergio fight. Which brings a question I was pondering for sometime now, how good of a win over Murray was? Murray is the guy who lost controversially against Martinez and Martinez lost to Cotto afterwards. We all know there are many factors in those two fights.
Golovkin indeed was getting hit quite a lot in the late rounds however he was slipping, dodging and blocking as much as he could before that. And I can't decide how good is his defense because he's a pressure fighter. In my opinion, I think his defense activity should be doubled and consistent throughout the fight since after all boxing is about hitting and not getting hit.
GGG looked great in that fight. It was an amazing performance. Yeah, he got hit a few times...its boxing and he is constantly applying pressure. Not one punch seemed to even make him blink though.
Yes. If you're not getting hurt and winning every round, your defense isn't a major problem.
I can't say I have followed Murray to know. However without being a Box rec warrior, I have just looked and theirs no KD there. I got the info from Murray himself in an interview. Now I may be wrong so apologies.
Ref ruled a KD, but Murray said he disagreed with it in some interview. If he said he's never been knocked down, that's probably the reason. There's no video so it's hard to say if it was legit or not.
Khomitsky dropped Murray in their first fight.
I can't say I have followed Murray to know. However without being a Box rec warrior, I have just looked and theirs no KD there. I got the info from Murray himself in an interview. Now I may be wrong so apologies.
If Manny knocks down Floyd twice early then once late then stops him via TKO, you think anyone will be saying Manny got hit too much in the fight? People just need something to complain about that's all
Anything is possible, and I am a fan of Manny, but he couldn't put Bradley down, he won't Floyd IMO. He got Mosely down which was pretty bad ass though.
As for GGG and Murray, I felt it was a good performance, but he will lose to Ward and easily.
GGG looked great in that fight. It was an amazing performance. Yeah, he got hit a few times...its boxing and he is constantly applying pressure. Not one punch seemed to even make him blink though.
People just need something to complain about that's all
So true. Ggg could have beat him within the first round and people would say, "what took him so long?" You can't win with people who hate other fighters for no reason.