I think we can all agree that the current crop at MW(160) is very weak and it doesn't look like any of them have what it takes to beat GGG right now.
But it looks like there is a very good group of skilled fighters on the way up from JMW(154)
So my question is. Which of the current JMW would have the best chance of beating GGG, moving up to MW
Who has the fighting style and the ability to cause Golovkin some serious problems?
I think Canelo could really cause him some problems, with his power and his aggressive Mexican boxer/puncher style
I also think Lara with his movement and Cuban ring craft could cause GGG problems in a different way.
so im assuming Cotto is not on the poll cuz he is considered a MW now, right?
or unless we pretend he is a brave WW who fights JMWs and MWs...
or simply he is not good enough to be considered in that poll...
which one is it?
I was thinking the same thing about Canelo, minus fighting the MW part of course.
Just plain stupid because all of those other than Marquez had actually fought at Floyd's weight or were campaigning there. Infact some were even champions at Floyd's weight.
You mean like Hatton getting beat up by Collazo only to get a gift win
Why not? Floyd looked down to 140 to find Hatton, 135 to find Marquez, 140 to find Maidana, 126 to find Guerrero, etc.
Pacquiao is a smaller man, and was planning to go back to 140. He started as a strawweight and won a world title at flyweight 112, while the much bigger Floyd started as a junior lightweight 130 and filled out to welterweight by his late 20s.
Ward is "looking down" calling out Golovkin who is a small middleweight, but you have no problem with that for some reason.
Just plain stupid because all of those other than Marquez had actually fought at Floyd's weight or were campaigning there. Infact some were even champions at Floyd's weight.
so im assuming Cotto is not on the poll cuz he is considered a MW now, right?
or unless we pretend he is a brave WW who fights JMWs and MWs...
or simply he is not good enough to be considered in that poll...
which one is it?
The only I can pick out of the top three names would be Lara, and that's because of his non-engaging style. Alvarez would push GGG but he isn't a MW yet with experience, if GGG himself was coming from JMW a year fight before then I would have give Canelo a better chance, Trout would not get away in a GGG fight.
Why not? Floyd looked down to 140 to find Hatton, 135 to find Marquez, 140 to find Maidana, 126 to find Guerrero, etc.
Pacquiao is a smaller man, and was planning to go back to 140. He started as a strawweight and won a world title at flyweight 112, while the much bigger Floyd started as a junior lightweight 130 and filled out to welterweight by his late 20s.
Ward is "looking down" calling out Golovkin who is a small middleweight, but you have no problem with that for some reason.
I think he forgets that Hagler & Hopkins cemented their legacies as MW champs by beating men from lower weight classes, not higher.
Does the OP know that JMW is below MW? Smaller guys are supposed to give GGG more problems? I don't know what's more comical the person who started the thread or the guy who actually said Lara, lmfao.
I think Canelo and Lara have a shot, at least to see the final bell. Canelo is interesting because he's only lost to movers/slick fighters and GGG's style plays right into his hands, I'm curious to see how GGG would react if he tries to pressure him only to be met by crisp and powerful combos.
None on this list but possibly Canelo as I think it will take a huge puncher that has a good chin that can stand and trade with GGG. I thought about Lemieux since he has good power but he just wing's shots and is so open, I doubt he would last 3 rds with Golovkin.
It will probably be at higher weights before we see this guy get beat.
Hopkins & Sergio didn't become lineal champions @ MW until there mid 30's.. It took Hopkins 6 years into his MW career (13 years a pro in total by that point) to unify two major belts! He did so against Holmes... Hopkins unified those two belts on his 13th defenses of his IBF belt... He then beat Trinidad (a former WW just like Cotto) in his next to become lineal champion also aged 36! He would then fight 8 more times @ 160 up until the age of 40! See not so different really... People have short memories!
Let GGG chase Lee & Cotto... He's only 32! Calzaghe, DM, Hopkins all of have an incredible run of defenses, in fact all are on the all time list, these things matter & that is what boxing is about, to be dominant & to establish a reign, to define your era! Stop trying to deny him this right as some of you are doing...
Good post -- green k sent...
Though: B-Hop acted like a "blackhole" in top level boxing -- i.e. all laws and theories sucombed near him...
On another hand: history shows that the Russian breed did not offer many examples of longevity in this sport...
Why not?
It made BHop famous beating Trinidad.
Imagine if GGG beats Canelo..... same thing :boxing:
I guess but it will just lead to that win being discredited in the long run. It would put a real good name on his record as well as leave room for doubt. Now if Canelo were to do that and win, it would do wonders for his record and resume.
All of which would add to an increasingly respectable resume, in the mean time others may decide to try 160 too like Alvarez or Andrade! Let the man have his reign first & shot @ the belts.... Never in the history of the sport have people wanted rid of a fighter from a division so much! Speaks volumes.... Those guys would be a decent edition to the division sure but all I am saying is he has a right to go for those belts Cotto & Lee hold & both of those are just as good (in fact more proven) as some of the 154lbers you are matching him up with! Lara lost to Molina & Williams ffs so lets not act like he'd be some huge threat against a bigger division.. Plus he can't pull the trigger! Andrade is my personal favourite JMW but he was ordered to fight Korobov @ 160 but pulled out... So I don't get the sense that he wants any part of 160! Not yet anyway... Golovkin would KO both anyway!
BoxRec huh...?
Why would GGG go up in weight now. He can fight Cotto and then the winner of Quillin/Lee/ Saunders, Then he could go for the IBF. There are still loads of fights left for him at 160. So why would he move
I'm just saying, if it comes to us looking to 154 for viable opposition, how are 154 pounders going to be better than 160 pounders? Sure, clean out 160 but after that, looking at 154 pounders to move up for the challenge isn't the way to go.
Hopkins & Sergio didn't become lineal champions @ MW until there mid 30's.. It took Hopkins 6 years into his MW career (13 years a pro in total by that point) to unify two major belts! He did so against Holmes... Hopkins unified those two belts on his 13th defenses of his IBF belt... He then beat Trinidad (a former WW just like Cotto) in his next to become lineal champion also aged 36! He would then fight 8 more times @ 160 up until the age of 40! See not so different really... People have short memories!
Let GGG chase Lee & Cotto... He's only 32! Calzaghe, DM, Hopkins all of have an incredible run of defenses, in fact all are on the all time list, these things matter & that is what boxing is about, to be dominant & to establish a reign, to define your era! Stop trying to deny him this right as some of you are doing...
Andrade and Lara- They both a greater reach than GGG and can box well from the outside.
I'd love to see GGG v Canelo I think that is the next big fight that can be made in boxing and I think Canelo would do well but will be in for a difficult night.
I dont see anyone at MW testing him and those that maybe could aren't going to fight him.
why look down and not up??? i dont get why you would even mention 154 fighters
Why not 168 pounders?
Why would GGG go up in weight now. He can fight Cotto and then the winner of Quillin/Lee/ Saunders, Then he could go for the IBF. There are still loads of fights left for him at 160. So why would he move
Sasha Yengoyan is a big JMW, very tough to KO - he's a beast.
Jermell Charlo, Demetrius Andrade, Erislandy Lara, & Saul Alvarez are no threat to GGG but they have the best chance.
Interesting Middleweights for GGG; David Lemieux, Jorge Sebastian Heiland, Sergio Mora.
Super Middleweights to warm up GGG for Ward; Robert Stieglitz, Arthur Abraham, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Carl Froch.