I was just looking at the WBA rankings and noticed that Keith has been promoted from interim champ to regular champ (it happened on 01-16-15).
So his fight against Guerrero will officially be his first defence.
Its abit stupid but its not really Keiths fault Floyd poosyweather has been hiding from him for over a year and this is coming from a guy who dislikes Thurman
The World Boxing Hall of Fame is practically defunct. They haven't inducted a new class in years. They don't have a fixed location. Hell, they don't even have a website. It's 2015, and they don't even have a website.
http://www.wbhf.org/
I'm not entirely sure about their recent activity levels, so maybe you're right in that regard.
Either way, as long as titles are recognised by promoters, they'll be milked and used for whatever purpose.
WBA, WBC, WBO, and IBF are only really recognized as actual championships because the IBHOF recognizes them. Perhaps if the IBHOF derecognizes the WBA until they sort that mess out, something may change.
Theres even two HOF's, so if one changes policy, the other will pounce to take advantage.
Truly a mess
The WBA should find a set of testicles and strip Floyd. That's half the problem, that some fighters can go years without defending and never fighting mandatories, while others get stripped two months after winning the belt.
More belts doesn't help anything, it just makes boxing look worse.
facts!!!!!
WBA, WBC, WBO, and IBF are only really recognized as actual championships because the IBHOF recognizes them. Perhaps if the IBHOF derecognizes the WBA until they sort that mess out, something may change.
That is so damn confusing? Did Keith Thurman fight last week? Said he won it 1-16-2015 :lol1:
Well actually he been Mayweather Mandatory for awhile now, so I guess since the WBA don't have the balls to order Mayweather to fight his Mandatory or strip him of his WBA Belt, they instead just gave him a Belt instead of stripping Mayweather and putting it up for the Keith Thurman vs Guerrero fight
I'm going to assume Mayweather is paying MORE double or triple than what the Belt Fees are for the WBA and the WBC to allow this BULLSH1T because he has the Light Middleweight WBA and WBC titles as well. This is keeping young fighters from reaching their dreams which is to become WORLD CHAMPION by 1 Greedy Idiot who once said Belts don't mean nothing to him anymore is now holding them hostage :nonono:
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Dude, take your medicine and calm down .......
Thurman was out for almost a year with a shoulder injury, and then wanted a soft-target as his return fight ... So how was he even in a position to challenge the Champion for his belt, if at all possible???
Oh, I forgot, facts are easily dismissed on this forum.:sad2:
Only in Boxing ...... :boxing:
Soooooo, here is the million dollar question or two:
Is Thurman now a paper champ??
And will his belt be on the line against Guerrero?
Thurman has been the mandatory since july 2013.
maidana shouldn't have even got the fight against broner in December 2013 over Thurman who was the mandatory.
and Floyd beat maidana for the wba in may 2014. you are right that was a unification.
the fight in September wasn't a unification though. Floyd should be stripped.
mandatories should be enforced.
its the only way too ensure that fighters who are ducked or just don't have big fan bases get their shot at the title.
Like you said, WBA won't strip his belt same thing with WBC.
No I don't. I didn't know anyone considered regular titles to be "legit" except promoters
Or in this case, his adviser. Give his favorite fighters belt and they be happy.
There are too many belts in boxing and most don't mean **** anyway but as a fighter I would rather fight to get my championship belt rather than have it given to me like that. Im not knocking Thurman, its not his fault but nobody should be elevated to champion, they should have to win a fight for that but that's boxing I guess.
I think the belt, no matter how pointless they are, would mean much more to a fighter winning it in the ring and having that experience rather than a phone call when hes having dinner with his wife or whatever telling him hes champion now.
That is so damn confusing? Did Keith Thurman fight last week? Said he won it 1-16-2015 :lol1:
Well actually he been Mayweather Mandatory for awhile now, so I guess since the WBA don't have the balls to order Mayweather to fight his Mandatory or strip him of his WBA Belt, they instead just gave him a Belt instead of stripping Mayweather and putting it up for the Keith Thurman vs Guerrero fight
I'm going to assume Mayweather is paying MORE double or triple than what the Belt Fees are for the WBA and the WBC to allow this BULLSH1T because he has the Light Middleweight WBA and WBC titles as well. This is keeping young fighters from reaching their dreams which is to become WORLD CHAMPION by 1 Greedy Idiot who once said Belts don't mean nothing to him anymore is now holding them hostage :nonono:
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why not?
Thurman has been the mandatory for the wba belt since 2013. and still hasn't gotten his mandatory shot.
when a guy refuses too fight his mandatory, the belt becomes vacant. Floyd isn't gonna give Thurman his mandatory shot. but the wba don't wanna strip Floyd. so they just elevated Thurman so they don't have too strip Floyd.
same thing at 154 with lara.
Floyd is never gonna fight his mandatories, so he should be stripped of the wba belts at 147 and 154.
Thurman vs guerrero should be for the full wba title
The WBA should find a set of testicles and strip Floyd. That's half the problem, that some fighters can go years without defending and never fighting mandatories, while others get stripped two months after winning the belt.
More belts doesn't help anything, it just makes boxing look worse.
Floyd is never gonna fight his mandatories, so he should be stripped of the wba belts at 147 and 154.
Thurman vs guerrero should be for the full wba title
Agreed. It'll never happen though. Money talks.