Is it possible to UFCise boxing?

Bingo! Though, being on non-premium tv and being active, if Haymon has a fighter with legit talent and great personality, that fighter could quickly become a ppv caliber fighter (assuming there's compelling fights to be made for him). He does have some good candidates: Keith Thurman Errole Spence Ivegen Khytrov Mickey Bey ... and the time goes by... doe

can nbc have their own ppv? I don't know how your TV channels actually operate -- NBC, S.pike TV and BET TV in this particular case... But from what I've learned recently, the PPV (as we know it) seems not to be a viable business model any longer.

Now let me get this out of the way...IT IS FVCKING STUPID!!!!!!!!!!! The bare fact that we don't understand things doesn't make them stupid. But what was it that turned you so angry?

Now let me get this out of the way...IT IS FVCKING STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!

can nbc have their own ppv?

He must have an endgame plan because he's not gonna make enough from ad revenue to pay these fighters long term. I think his plan is to expose his fighters to a wider audience to grow their brand and take a loss financially and then down the track have them fight each other on Ppv To date, Haymon turned his young "prospects" into lazy cats... The great PPV fighters (past and present) used to fight like hell to reach at their stardom status... Now compare them with Danny Garcia or Chavez Jr as they are today...

Bingo! Though, being on non-premium tv and being active, if Haymon has a fighter with legit talent and great personality, that fighter could quickly become a ppv caliber fighter (assuming there's compelling fights to be made for him). He does have some good candidates: Keith Thurman Errole Spence Ivegen Khytrov Mickey Bey IMO you can only sell boxing to a certain point then you have to have attractions (stars) w/o them people will tune out bcse it's Boxing. One delusion that boxing fans have is that bcse they enjoy watching it then everyone else would if it were more available but I'm not so sure that's true this NBC deal will either debunk that or prove it. I expect it to do well early but once the initial buzz/novelty of it wears off then what... can they really build the sport/fighters or was it just a experiment.

From what I understand Haymon is not to emulate the PPV business model. That's why I don't see just from where the money is supposed to come from. This in case he hasn't a kind of SciFi plan in mind... He must have an endgame plan because he's not gonna make enough from ad revenue to pay these fighters long term. I think his plan is to expose his fighters to a wider audience to grow their brand and take a loss financially and then down the track have them fight each other on Ppv

He doesn't want PPV because PPV is dying. Money is in regular tv now with sponsor and endorsements, etc. He's paying for his guys to get airtime and put up numbers to prove boxing can draw. His hopes are for someone to offer a big tv contract in the next few years.

Not if what Hauser wrote is true. If he's right about Moonves, and Pac-May doesn't happen, then Haymon would be out there on a limb without either HBO or SHO...which would make this entire thing much more risky. SHO has had a long working relationship with Gary Shaw...there's a potential avenue for Roc Nation to get it's foot in the door in a hurry. That could be a wrench in Haymon's machine. If that's true and it holds, it forces Haymon to rely on his warchest more than he intended. Showtime was giving him about $25mill per year.

There's a reason Haymon doesn't want PPV he doesn't have any PPV fighters granted there aren't many of those so his basis is major network success or hope Showtime will take him back. Bingo! Though, being on non-premium tv and being active, if Haymon has a fighter with legit talent and great personality, that fighter could quickly become a ppv caliber fighter (assuming there's compelling fights to be made for him). He does have some good candidates: Keith Thurman Errole Spence Ivegen Khytrov Mickey Bey

HBO is quickly becoming the sole resistance to Haymon's power move. Not if what Hauser wrote is true. If he's right about Moonves, and Pac-May doesn't happen, then Haymon would be out there on a limb without either HBO or SHO...which would make this entire thing much more risky. SHO has had a long working relationship with Gary Shaw...there's a potential avenue for Roc Nation to get it's foot in the door in a hurry.

From what I understand Haymon is not to emulate the PPV business model. That's why I don't see just from where the money is supposed to come from. This in case he hasn't a kind of SciFi plan in mind... There's a reason Haymon doesn't want PPV he doesn't have any PPV fighters granted there aren't many of those so his basis is major network success or hope Showtime will take him back.

What are Silva and Jones getting paid? Is there anyone making more than them? Do I have to understand that Danny is Silva and Wilder is Jones?

What are Silva and Jones getting paid? Is there anyone making more than them?

Well the UFC is based around ppv. So that's goingto be the challenge. Could you put on say 8 ppv cards a year that would average say 400k buys assuming you had 90 of the top 100 p4p guys and could make them fight who u wanted but not pac or Floyd. ? That would be the challenge. From what I understand Haymon is not to emulate the PPV business model. That's why I don't see just from where the money is supposed to come from. This in case he hasn't a kind of SciFi plan in mind...

OK: the start up money aren't the problem. But I ask myself who's going to feed money in order to sustain such an ambitious enterprise? ... Well, once Mayweather and Pacquiao will retire the purses will suffer a steep fall, I guess... But this might take at least two years... meanwhile the "young lions" will ask for big money... Well the UFC is based around ppv. So that's goingto be the challenge. Could you put on say 8 ppv cards a year that would average say 400k buys assuming you had 90 of the top 100 p4p guys and could make them fight who u wanted but not pac or Floyd. ? That would be the challenge.

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It's could be done but I don't think Al Haymon could do it alone. It would need a huge amount of money to set up and I'm not sure it would be profitable because you would need to pay overs to a lot of fighters to get them to join initially. Once u had all the best fighters signed up then you would have the upper hand as fighters will want to join up to fight in the big competition lie with UFC. Once Floyd and mAnny retire it could be doable, our could sign every good fighter on say 3 year deals for a few hundred million. Just need a billionaire backer. OK: the start up money aren't the problem. But I ask myself who's going to feed money in order to sustain such an ambitious enterprise? ... Well, once Mayweather and Pacquiao will retire the purses will suffer a steep fall, I guess... But this might take at least two years... meanwhile the "young lions" will ask for big money...

Sure, and then just like UFC the smaller fish will still have fighters. These fighters will KTFO bums, cab drivers, and Frank Shamrocks one after the next and fans will sh*t on the top guy's resumes and point to the guys with no resumes and proclaim them the best....so well, it'll basically still be boxing.