Undefeated, Ko'd 3 former world champions. That's more than Ernie Shaver's did in his whole career.
I mean you can't just disappear from the face of earth like that?
got whooped by chisora and essentially retired. i mean he might be fighting tomato cans here and there but mentally he's ruined. he thought boxing was easy because he was knocking out shot tomato cans like peter and liakovich.
this you know for a fact :lol1:
got whooped by chisora and essentially retired. i mean he might be fighting tomato cans here and there but mentally he's ruined. he thought boxing was easy because he was knocking out shot tomato cans like peter and liakovich.
You said he is to return this spring, you got that from somewhere or was just assuming? I haven't heard anything about him and he hasn't fought for damn near 2 years.
Sauerland said that to sportsschau about 2 months ago. Helenius has confirmed talks to finnish papers.
He had a complicated shoulderinjury before the fight and in retrospect should have told his promotor to cancel. Of course the injury then worsened during the fight and he hasn't really returned to good Health since.
You said he is to return this spring, you got that from somewhere or was just assuming? I haven't heard anything about him and he hasn't fought for damn near 2 years.
He had a complicated shoulderinjury before the fight and in retrospect should have told his promotor to cancel. Of course the injury then worsened during the fight and he hasn't really returned to good Health since.
Complicated meaning non-existent.
And, if you have a major injury, you will not be able to train. If he had some 'complicated shoulder injury' his team would never allow him to fight. Thats fugging BS.
He's just another Euro hype job.
And if he's so fragile that an injury fighting aginst Chisora, one injury, has ended his career, he's still a bum.
And anyway, what is it? Injuries or promo troubles that ended him? Hearing lots of excuses, when none are needed since the truth is the first obvious choice, he retired after going life and death with a fat Chisora.
He had a complicated shoulderinjury before the fight and in retrospect should have told his promotor to cancel. Of course the injury then worsened during the fight and he hasn't really returned to good Health since.Oh ok, that makes sense.
Helenius officially won Chisora. As for performance, didn't he break his arm in the first round or something? For me that's perfectly acceptable to beat Chicora with one hand, even if narrowly.
He had a complicated shoulderinjury before the fight and in retrospect should have told his promotor to cancel. Of course the injury then worsened during the fight and he hasn't really returned to good Health since.
I don't remember any injury or seeing him fight compromised in any way. Was punching with both hands. Sounds like your typical post fight deception. If it really was just an injury, we would've seen him back in the ring koing ppl, he woulda rematched Chisora and beat him. But nope.
Using that fight because its his best opponent, first real challenge and he wasn't strong enough or have enough stamina to hang.
Helenius looks great against bums and cab drivers, but the reason we don't hear from him or about him is because after the Chisora fight he knew he is not going to be a successful HW.Well if it was an actual hampering injury in the first round, would you change your mind?
I myself haven't seen any proof that he's not boxing because what you just said. I think you just want to believe things what suits you.
Again, wasn't that the fight Helenius got injured? Why you're using such fight as the definitive indication?
I don't remember any injury or seeing him fight compromised in any way. Was punching with both hands. Sounds like your typical post fight deception. If it really was just an injury, we would've seen him back in the ring koing ppl, he woulda rematched Chisora and beat him. But nope.
Using that fight because its his best opponent, first real challenge and he wasn't strong enough or have enough stamina to hang.
Helenius looks great against bums and cab drivers, but the reason we don't hear from him or about him is because after the Chisora fight he knew he is not going to be a successful HW.
He lost to chisora. Didn't get his butt kicked, but he lost.
Not a huge shame, as Chisora is quite good, and tough for anyone. But Helenius isn't that good, as was obvious from that fight. Ever since that fight he went quiet since he realised what he is capable of.Again, wasn't that the fight Helenius got injured? Why you're using such fight as the definitive indication?
He lost to chisora. Didn't get his butt kicked, but he lost.
Not a huge shame, as Chisora is quite good, and tough for anyone. But Helenius isn't that good, as was obvious from that fight. Ever since that fight he went quiet since he realised what he is capable of.
To be fair, no one told Boytsov to lose to Leapai...
As for Helenius, what happened to him sucks and I hope he can get his career back on track, but to be honest I'm not particularly interested in seeing him again. A fighter of his supposed level has no business losing to Chisora.Helenius officially won Chisora. As for performance, didn't he break his arm in the first round or something? For me that's perfectly acceptable to beat Chicora with one hand, even if narrowly.
This is new? Where from? I just knew he had contractual disputes with Sauerland. It's messed up how this stuff ruins careers, another example is Denis Boytsov who's career was halted too.
To be fair, no one told Boytsov to lose to Leapai...
As for Helenius, what happened to him sucks and I hope he can get his career back on track, but to be honest I'm not particularly interested in seeing him again. A fighter of his supposed level has no business losing to Chisora.
His voice was paralyzed from a punch so now he talks like some movie villain. As far as serious injuries go it's a pretty cool one to have.
“These years with Sauerland have been absolute hell,” Kalle Helenius said and loaded quite a shower of accusations against his son’s German boxing stable.
According to the father, Sauerland has trained his son wrong. This has resulted in injuries and the rehabilitation has not been appropriate. Helenius has been forced to fight with an injured arm, contracts have been made deceitfully and great amount of money has not been paid. In addition, Helenius has not been insured at all, but the team has “lent” him money to pay for the medical bills.
“Robert owes the team 50,000 euros,” lists the father.
Now they have cut themselves off from the German team. The Heleniuses would like to get rid of the team altogether, but Sauerland will not allow that. According to Kalle Helenius, the team says it owns the rights to the Finn for three more years. “On Monday I’ll go to the Porvoo police station and file a report on them. We want a court ruling that gives Robert a right to practise his profession,” Kalle Helenius said.
This is new? Where from? I just knew he had contractual disputes with Sauerland. It's messed up how this stuff ruins careers, another example is Denis Boytsov who's career was halted too.
He should have a loss to Chisora on his record, don't think he would've gotten especially far though he probably would've gone where everyone else gets to - title shot with Klitschko - loss - fade in obscurity