Haymon is currently in negotiations with:
CBS, CBS SportsNet & S P I K E TV
He is doing more then bringing Boxing back to network TV.
The PBC will soon be announced as a league and no fighters in it will be part of WBC, WBA etc.
With his own league The Ali Act will no longer apply as there are no "promoters" much like the UFC or WWE. Fighters will sign Non-Compete Clauses and will have guaranteed purses and percentage of event profits built into contracts.
Think everyone should take notice...guy is trying something. Good or bad....we are gonna see good fights on regular TV and soon more then on just NBC. What I find interesting is the 2 biggest networks known for sports:
ABC/ESPN & Fox
Are not involved. I see Haymon planning on starting a legit sports league on both NBC and CBS and in 2 years when the contracts are up the prayer is the 2 sports networks bid like crazy against each other for all the rights.
S P I K E TV deal was announced today.....CBS deal coming in a couple months.
Where is all the idiots that said it was BS?
The s.pike tv thing is old. You made up all the other shlt about having his own league
Interesting. I imagine he'd be buying time on CBS as well.
I read UCN speculate that he's trying to get good enough ratings that would allow him to get a big contract like the UFC with Fox. Perhaps he's looking to open a bidding war with CBS/NBC
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S P I K E TV deal was announced today.....CBS deal coming in a couple months.
Where is all the idiots that said it was BS?
Interesting. I imagine he'd be buying time on CBS as well.
I read UCN speculate that he's trying to get good enough ratings that would allow him to get a big contract like the UFC with Fox. Perhaps he's looking to open a bidding war with CBS/NBC
?? but its still not MMA though. so why would this kill the UFC?
MMA and the UFC are here to stay, the amount of gyms opening up in the world and the talent getting into mma is crazy and wont be stopped.
I love both sports
So do I! And MMA fans come from all over. Boxing, Kickboxing, wrestling, Jiu Jitsu. It's not going anywhere.
What needs to happen is to have every fight on the card televised or at least streamed legally online. All big 3 MMA promotions in the US (UFC, Bellator, WSOF) do it. I like watching those 4-round prelim bouts. Right now, only Top Rank streams prelims on a major card.
Creating their own belts? Limiting fighters to only fight other fighters in the PBC?
No thanks.
Yeah he already has fighters getting gift decisions.. I said this years ago Haymon is trying to do a UFC model in boxing, he sacrificed giving fighters big money only because that is what you do in business you take a loss to take a chance that could pay off, and him taking a smaller cut but buying up over 140 fighters means once he gets them under contract he can pay them 50k to show and 50k to win while he becomes a billionaire.
But some guys here are so race bias and will never criticize Haymon not realizing or just ignore the fact he is the true slave master owner here.
At the end of the day guys like Pacquiao and Ward and Canelo and GGG will look like the smart ones for not following the pack and signing to Haymon, these fighters need to realize if something is too good to be true it usually is.
what does that mean? if you look at the top 10 in every division the ufc has about 9 out of the top 10 fighters. haymon has 3-4 in a couple divisions but in some he has 1-2 at most. if other boxers don't sign with him his little league won't work.
You talking about CONTENDERS, I'm talkin about TALENT!
Only talent I see right now in the UFC as far as appealing to casual fans are:
Jon Jones
Anthony Pettis
Conner McGregor
Jose Aldo
Cain Velazquez
maybe a few others I'm forgetting at the moment.
Haymon has a loaded roster of both Veterans and young prospects especially in the MONEY DIVISIONS which are Light Welterweight 140 on up to 154 Light Middleweight. Boxing has more of a HISTORY and more of a CONSISTENT FOLLOWING and a Bigger Follow WORLD WIDE. Having a Network that reaches more Homes than HBO and Showtime Helps showcase and build up more stars in the sport.
Way more talent in Boxing than it is in MMA to be honest so you like others are reaching with that AWFUL COMPARISON! Haymon current Roster Right now has more talent than UFC does. Also, again OTHER FIGHTERS WILL FOLLOW TO HAYMON because of $$$. I know we love to lie to ourselves and think fighters fight for Pride only and Money is not their #1 Motivation but...THAT IS 100% BULLSH1T! These guys got families to feed so MONEY very important and most of them want to make as much of it as they can every time they fight.
what does that mean? if you look at the top 10 in every division the ufc has about 9 out of the top 10 fighters. haymon has 3-4 in a couple divisions but in some he has 1-2 at most. if other boxers don't sign with him his little league won't work.
If it's free boxing on prime time, can't complain.
I've found a way to enjoy mismatches -- root for the Salkas and hope for upsets. I enjoyed seeing Thurman run for his life in his last fight. Hehe...
Haymon is currently in negotiations with:
CBS, CBS SportsNet & S P I K E TV
He is doing more then bringing Boxing back to network TV.
The PBC will soon be announced as a league and no fighters in it will be part of WBC, WBA etc.
With his own league The Ali Act will no longer apply as there are no "promoters" much like the UFC or WWE. Fighters will sign Non-Compete Clauses and will have guaranteed purses and percentage of event profits built into contracts.
Think everyone should take notice...guy is trying something. Good or bad....we are gonna see good fights on regular TV and soon more then on just NBC. What I find interesting is the 2 biggest networks known for sports:
ABC/ESPN & Fox
Are not involved. I see Haymon planning on starting a legit sports league on both NBC and CBS and in 2 years when the contracts are up the prayer is the 2 sports networks bid like crazy against each other for all the rights.
this statement is the dumbest thing I've heard all year........
Well you just answered you're own question. Numbers are down in general because they can't create new stars.
UFC from 2005 (when they got big) until 2011 (when they bought strikeforce)
= a ton of significant fights not happening since they refused to co-promote and instead poached talent and helped run other promoters out of business.
Since then they control 90% of the market, yet PPV, ratings, gates are all down. They were once seen as innovators and now they look like they are out of ideas.
Haymon is not even a real promoter, so no this won't work. One thing i'll give Haymon compared to the UFC is that he pays his guys.
If this happens it will be the cold war x10.
You have to be -blind- or a fanboy not to understand this. Now if Haymon was open to working with others then it's completely different.
Way more talent in Boxing than it is in MMA to be honest so you like others are reaching with that AWFUL COMPARISON! Haymon current Roster Right now has more talent than UFC does. Also, again OTHER FIGHTERS WILL FOLLOW TO HAYMON because of $$$. I know we love to lie to ourselves and think fighters fight for Pride only and Money is not their #1 Motivation but...THAT IS 100% BULLSH1T! These guys got families to feed so MONEY very important and most of them want to make as much of it as they can every time they fight.
So how is the best going to fight the best, when the al haymon clan will only fight inhouse?
These are more FAN IDEAS/ASSUMPTIONS, none of this is official so everybody need to CALM DOWN lol
This thing is just getting started, they haven't even had their first EVENT YET! RELAX
Also as I posted in that same Post "I Don't Think That Is The Way He Will Do Business", we really don't know at this point. But I do think the VERY LONG TERM Goal is PROBABLY to get all the fighters under 1 Roof
AGAIN, FIGHTERS WILL FOLLOW THE MONEY! So if things are going well and fighters are getting paid handsomely and is very happy under Haymon then ultimately more fighters will follow VOLUNTARILY!
i don't know. Clearly Haymon will benefit the most for having his own "league". Just like Dana White cleans up. If the matchups are good, cool. Obviously everything is going to be in-house fights (where are all those people that complained about Bob only doing in house lol). Its a game changer for sure.
Lets say this start today , lets call it PBA (Pro Boxing Alliance), All Haymon contract fighters holding a WBC, WBA, WBO, and IBF belts will have to give up the belt right so we going to have so many new champions in 2015
another scam and corruption from haymon. good thing all the best fighters aren't with that shady weirdo.
- pac
- wlad
- ggg
- kovalev
- froch
- rigo
- ward
- lomachenko
- roman gonzalez
etc. etc. are all safe from that shady haymon.
wow, thats 90% of the creme de la creme. i dont see how it can possibly be "the best fighting the best" if these guys arent involved.
UFC and MMA cant create stars, boxing is best known for doing so.
LMAO, all the fighters are happy. You are seriously defending a sanctioning body? They are as corrupt as it gets in boxing. Basically hoes pulling tricks in every way to get a buck.
Not at all. If you read and understood me correctly you would can see that all I said was that the sanctioning bodies will have to unify which is something everyone has wanted in all history, one recognized world champion, which is better than having a wannabe champion which only fights in house fighters. If you followed my comments you would see that I'm all for fighters getting paid. After all they risk their lives every time they get in the ring.
Their rosters are wearing thin and will continue to do so.
Rocnation will be irrelevant in a year or two.
I don't think so because unlike Haymon, ROCNATION is showing interest in fighters of other countries which will keep genuine boxing alive. Plus ROCNATION is also paying their fighters top dollar to face legit fighters, not fixed fights but I guess your just another casual who is happy watching a parody of boxing and not the real thing.
Haymon has a direct role in May-Pac not happening so far and the UFC couldn't make their biggest superfights.
Well ive always felt Bob was the main issue with Manny and May not getting it on (which they seem to finally be about to do!)
I dunno about that man, im a fringe fan when it comes to MMA but they seem to take on all comers and there isnt half as much emphasis put on an "0"
Dana seems to do a good job
Im not sure what kind of a man Al Haymon is but with the right guy at the helm an idea like this is great, Boxing is a joke all u have to do is look at the long drawn out Mayweather and Pacquaio farce to see that! The UFC is run so much better, in fact everything about it is better than boxing EXCEPT what matters most the end product - the fight! (i am a MMA fan doe)
This could be great
Haymon has a direct role in May-Pac not happening so far and the UFC couldn't make their biggest superfights.