I came across an article from a while back about how Evander Holyfield accused and named dropped Mike Tyson as having used steroids.
So i started researching a little.
Mike Tyson
Evander Holyfield
Shane Mosley
Roy Jones Jr
Manny Pacquiao
Floyd Mayweather
Vitali Klitschko
Amir Khan
Juan Manuel Marquez
All top tier level fighters have been CAUGHT or Strongly suspected of using PEDS.
Is our top fighters of our sport juicing? Whats your say?
Ive heard that floyd failed sum test before, but thats all speculative because he hasnt failed a test openly before.. But if for some reason he was "Blood Doping" dont you guys think his 2 performances against maidana would have been more dominant??? Floyd has slipped dramatically in the last 2 fights, i would contribute that to a fighter who is ageing, rather then a fighter who is taking enhancement drugs.
But if he is he is, what the fuk do i or any of you guys know about it! Innocent until proven guilty.
Yeah he's definitely slipping. If he's taking PEDs then he's taking the wrong kind cause they aren't helping him
I think the rumor was that Floyd had some provision in one of his contracts in case of positive test results. Apparently they take 2 samples (or 1 sample and split it) and only one of the samples is tested unless it comes up positive, then the athlete has the option to challenge the test results and request the 2nd (B) sample also be tested.
The rumor was that the first (A) samples came up positive, and instead of challenging the results and requesting the second (B) samples be tested, Floyd got a "waiver" from USADA for "inadvertant use".
Again, this was just a rumor and it's been around for a while,
but :lol1: @ "inadvertant use".. yea he inadvertantly got PEDs in his system.. maybe he fell on a needle...
Marcelo Rios, probably the best source for a topic like this....
Busted for a party drug, lost to Petr Korda at the Australian Open Finale 1998 who got busted the same year in Wimbledon for nandrolone...
Boxing and tennis can't be compared. Unlike boxing which is unarmed combat and needs an exception from the law in an regulated environment tennis is basically unregulated. It comes down to how the drug testing is handled...
Even this was shocking
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-2625545/AP-McCoy-drug-shock-champion-jockeys-greyhound-tests-positive-steroid-used-Ben-Johnson.html
Marcelo Rios, probably the best source for a topic like this....
Busted for a party drug, lost to Petr Korda at the Australian Open Finale 1998 who got busted the same year in Wimbledon for nandrolone...
Boxing and tennis can't be compared. Unlike boxing which is unarmed combat and needs an exception from the law in an regulated environment tennis is basically unregulated. It comes down to how the drug testing is handled...
:usa2::usa2:
Ive heard that floyd failed sum test before, but thats all speculative because he hasnt failed a test openly before.. But if for some reason he was "Blood Doping" dont you guys think his 2 performances against maidana would have been more dominant??? Floyd has slipped dramatically in the last 2 fights, i would contribute that to a fighter who is ageing, rather then a fighter who is taking enhancement drugs.
But if he is he is, what the fuk do i or any of you guys know about it! Innocent until proven guilty.
Rios stated that he suspected the ATP protects high-profile Americans of doping: "I know that if nandrolone were found on (Andre) Agassi, they would not disclose it. He is a very prominent, very popular player and if he were to fall, the world of tennis would fall with him.
Is the bold why Floyd hasn't been ousted?
Marcelo Rios, probably the best source for a topic like this....
Busted for a party drug, lost to Petr Korda at the Australian Open Finale 1998 who got busted the same year in Wimbledon for nandrolone...
Boxing and tennis can't be compared. Unlike boxing which is unarmed combat and needs an exception from the law in an regulated environment tennis is basically unregulated. It comes down to how the drug testing is handled...
Not my opinion - but I've seen Khan and Adderall mentioned before by people who claim to have an eye for that sort of thing. Nothing substantive, just hearsay
yeah but usada extra testing isn't part of those state commission tests.
not sure how it works. does the AC take charge of testing it didn't require?
usada can share it but are they under obligation to? considering the AC or org wasn't the one who hired them?
or are they hired for the AC by the fighters who are requesting it and paying for it?
If agreed with the fighters and with the AC agree USADA tests can replace the tests by the commission. Commission tests are mostly standard piss tests. At the time of Mayweather vs. Mosley USADA critizised the NSAC for sloppy testing procedures like just using urine tests and not blood and urine tests. Testing between training camps was very rare as well. This had changed at least a bit in the last years.
The costs of drug testing have to be covered by athletes and/or promoters. It's not cheap at all.
Regarding the test reports I'm not 100 % sure. It's a complicated thing. There is always the possibility that if test reports by USADA aren't submitted to the AC that the AC will refuse to sanction the fight. It should be pointed out that USADA is funded/supported by the government. There is a mutual interest in sharing these reports. There is the possibility that the AC handles the drug testing with USADA but USADA itself hires Doping Collection Companies to collect the samples. AC's normally have their own collectors and can use WADA accredited labs, such as the USADA one in Utah. AC's unlike WADA don't have a special athlete system and things like a blood passport.
To those people who are riding on that vampire facelift thing:
You need like 50 ml blood for this, which is spiecially processed. You usually use much more for blood doping. Typically you are on EPO to enhance red blood cells and than have the blood taken and processed. I don't get how some people think this is the same...
Some of the things we're seeing/going through is remarkable.Surely we have some more evidence to dig up.
Thought this was interesting,although it's tennis.
Former No1 Marcelo Rios speaking on steroids.
Rios stated that he suspected the ATP protects high-profile Americans of doping: "I know that if nandrolone were found on (Andre) Agassi, they would not disclose it. He is a very prominent, very popular player and if he were to fall, the world of tennis would fall with him.
Is the bold why Floyd hasn't been ousted?
So mayweather is on ped's cause he is working with ariza, but pacquiao is not or was not on ped's and he worked with ariza for a long time.....delusional pac kok rider gtfoh
actually he's just being a smart ass.
floyd fans always accused ariza of being dirty when he was with pac so.....
kinda like the catchweight thing. most pac fans don't care but they bring it up when floyd does it.
floyd doesn't do his nuthuggers any favors.
Do you realize that boxing in the US is a sport regulated by government entities, the state athletic comissions? The NSAC would not sanction a fight, if they would not get the test results from USADA. Plain and simple. By the way: If some athlete would be tested positive and the fight would go on because USADA would not report, that would have a major possibility of a lawsuit. Against the athlete tested positive and USADA.
yeah but usada extra testing isn't part of those state commission tests.
not sure how it works. does the AC take charge of testing it didn't require?
usada can share it but are they under obligation to? considering the AC or org wasn't the one who hired them?
or are they hired for the AC by the fighters who are requesting it and paying for it?
Amir Khan? no sure he belongs on that list, neither does Pacquiao truth be told.
It's the guys who have failed tests or cheated tests (Tyson) who are most suspect, Holyfield didn't fail or cheat but iirc he was associated with a delivery of PEDs.
Pacquiao doesn't belong on the list? He's the reason why the PED hype in boxing sky rocketed. The thread title is "fighters who have been accused" not "fighters who have been caught".
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/tyler-hamilton-exposes-cult-back-alley-phlebotomy-helped-lance-armstrong-millions-new-memoir-secret-race-article-1.1157153%23bmb=1#bmb=1
Three important things for sports fans to know about blood transfusions are that they are banned in Olympic sports, that they are complicated enough to require a small conspiracy (which only creates more witnesses than other doping schemes), and that blood transfusions were more or less undetectable throughout Armstrong's career.
Woooooooooooooow Floyd
What im more shocked aboutn is Floyd admitted to Blood Doping and its on video, yet no Boxing journalists or news sites tried to get to the bottom of this. He literally showed the process saying they take blood from my vein put it in a machine the spins the blood and inject to my face hence the vampire facials which is also what Lance Armstrong did. Lol Floyd is an idiot and his team are stupid for letting him go on talking about it on camera.
Floyd really does have a terrible habit of shooting himself in the foot during interviews. There are sooooo many videos of him just embarassing himself and he obviously doesn't even realize it.
He behaves like an arrogant teenager who thinks they are the smartest person in the room, oblivious to his own body language and how it reveals more than the words coming out of his mouth. He's a grown @ss man-child, with the mental age of a teenager. No wonder he gets along well with Beiber.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this really is as bad as it looks. There have been rumors about this for a while now, but is he really that stupid to say that on video? Did he not realize what he was admitting to? Did his people keep him in the dark? I always knew the guy was dumb but come on.. really?
What im more shocked aboutn is Floyd admitted to Blood Doping and its on video, yet no Boxing journalists or news sites tried to get to the bottom of this. He literally showed the process saying they take blood from my vein put it in a machine the spins the blood and inject to my face hence the vampire facials which is also what Lance Armstrong did. Lol Floyd is an idiot and his team are stupid for letting him go on talking about it on camera.
Someone posted a video a couple pages back. He made USADA wait 5 hours to take a piss before the Mosley fight.
Dude is doped up :nonono:
LMFAO I just seen that sh1t! Very suspicious, those USADA guys sure looked uncomfortable.
beer, when was this? you are not talking about the Hauser rumors again are you?
Someone posted a video a couple pages back. He made USADA wait 5 hours to take a piss before the Mosley fight.
Dude is doped up :nonono: