How did Floyd ever become boxing's top earner???

Americans still do dig excellence and the best, if a guy never loses that is a pretty easy sell. That along with the longevity of it all, the longer you are around the more you are known and for like the last 6 years everyone that likes boxing even the tiniest bit has had pretty strong opinions about Mayweather. He got pretty big, got the opportunity to hit the big lick with Oscar and then never really dropped the ball (even if some people did not agree with his choices totting the rock). That is the boxing recipe for success~

If it was so simple everyone who tried it would be as successful. To the TS question, He became the top earner in the sport's history by selling the most ppv's and having the biggest live gates. this means, despite what those who hate him post, fans like watching Floyd mayweather fight and don't mind paying to do so. Its really that simple! Exactly, what Mayweather does is special, even those who dislike him admit that. We having an understanding of what Mayweather brings to the ring, it's been established over and over, so people know exactly what they're paying for. Who's skill set gets more talked about than Mayweather? The answer is no one.

its quite simple formula really. they follow the music business model of creating OUTSIDE DRAMA TO COMPENSATE FOR LACK OF QUALITY OF THEIR PRODUCT. Floyd is boring to watch so what does his team do? they MANUFACTURE a GHETTO, THUG LIFE, WANKSTA PERSONA. A over the top personality, boorish behaviour, trash talking to the extreme to make up for his lack of captivating fights in the ring. SIMPLE BUSINESS FORMULA BORROWED FROM THE MUSIC INDUSTRY. If it was so simple everyone who tried it would be as successful. To the TS question, He became the top earner in the sport's history by selling the most ppv's and having the biggest live gates. this means, despite what those who hate him post, fans like watching Floyd mayweather fight and don't mind paying to do so. Its really that simple!

Simple. Hes not. After SHO gives him $30 million, hes in charge of promoting the fight. $5 mill goes to GBP to promote it Around $5 mill goes to all the other fighters purses At least $10 mill goes to advertising and marketing the fight. A couple more million for travel expenses and promotional tour. The entire event also has to be insured. Its been reported numerous places that he needed to sell 1.2 million to break even. He didn't come close either fights last year. Factor in Uncle Sam taking 40%, and Al Haymon taking 15% and Floyd takes home less than Pacquiao, Wlad, Cotto and probably Canelo at the end of the year. I think that statement is bull crap. There is no way in hell showtime continue to pay him a lot of money just to lose money.

Turning into the Villain vs Oscar De La Hoya is what did it! Clearly him being a WWE fan he basically became a real live Villain and understand that becoming so will = A LOT $$$ and basically IT DID! Nobody should feel "SORRY" for him, the HATE is what he wanted and he is getting it...but IN RETURN he is also making a TON OF MONEY without Corporate Endorsements which is unheard of especially for American Athletes who Endorsement Deals usually pay more than what the League they play for pays! I forgot WWE. ALso, he did a stint on 'Dancing with the stars' didn't he?

Turning into the Villain vs Oscar De La Hoya is what did it! Clearly him being a WWE fan he basically became a real live Villain and understand that becoming so will = A LOT $$$ and basically IT DID! Nobody should feel "SORRY" for him, the HATE is what he wanted and he is getting it...but IN RETURN he is also making a TON OF MONEY without Corporate Endorsements which is unheard of especially for American Athletes who Endorsement Deals usually pay more than what the League they play for pays!

If you look at how the American media has been marketing boxing, it has traditionally been mainly the heavyweight division's fighters who have been in the spotlight. In the 1980s it was mainly Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield, and in the 1990s it was also Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis. However, in 2001 the Klitschkos had started to take over, and the American audience didn't respond to them, so the media turned to p4p-fighters instead. Roy Jones Jr and Oscar de la Hoya were building their p4p-fame in the 1990s, and Roy was in the media spotlight until his losses in 2004, while Oscar's losses to Shane Mosley in 2003 and Bernard Hopkins in 2004 also reduced his popularity. In 2005 it was a vacuum where the media was struggling to find good American fighters. After Roy's and Oscar's losses in 2004, Floyd was in 2005 catapulted to the p4p no 1, by the media, followed by Winky Wright as second. Manny was only no 5, because of his loss to Erik Morales in 2005. In the annual p4p-list of 2005 there were 5 Mexican fighters in the top 10 list, p4p, reflecting the miserable number of good American fighters. The American media didn't have any American fighters to write about so it made Chris Byrd the world's number one heavyweight fighter of 2005, but when Chris lost to Wladimir in 2006 there was nobody. However, down at Super-featherweight Manny Pacquiao won over Erik Morales twice in 2006, and there was potential for a media star. But Manny is not American and he is no Heavyweight fighter. In 2007, the media and HBO blew the importance of the Oscar-Floyd fight out of all proportions. Oscar had numerous losses behind him and was a shadow of his prime-self, so it was basically an Exhibition-match. However, the American media and HBO had no other boxing fight to focus on so it was made into a huge spectacle. Out of this spectacle came Floyd "Money" Mayweather, a skilled boxer with a new name. The media had a greater American boxer it could have focused on, Bernard Hopkins, but his losses to Jermain Taylor in 2005 indicated that he was passed his prime, so the media went with Floyd. Ironically, when Floyd "retired" in 2007, the media was stuck with Manny being the most popular boxer, a foreigner in the Super-featherweight division. Luckily, Manny's willingness to please the audience saved boxing. He continued to excite the audience with brutal knockouts, also moving up to Welterweight where he was prepared to face anyone. Meanwhile, Floyd returned in the end of 2009, wanting to claim the media's spotlight again. The media followed both Floyd and Manny, but after Manny's loss on knockout to Juan Manuel in 2012 Floyd's value was expected to increase, so Showtime bought six of his fights for over $200 million. Just like expected Manny had lost followers, but he kept winning also over great opposition and soon the media started to call for a Floyd-Manny fight again. Showtime was after four matches with Floyd stuck with a huge loss and the only way to recover the loss was to negotiate a fight between Manny and Floyd. So in 2015, Showtime will try to force Floyd to face Manny Pacquiao, who is by far the best fighter Floyd has ever faced. They might even try to force Floyd to fight Manny twice. Showtime is against the wall. Manny doesn't need Floyd because he can face many interesting fighters at 140lbs, for example Mikey Garcia, Terence Crawford, Juan Manuel Marquez or some of Al Haymon's fighters who would love to fight him at this stage of his career. Manny is naturally very small and enters the ring under 150lbs, so he would at this stage of his career be better off fighting boxers his own size. Terence Crawford was for example heavier in the ring at lightweight than Manny was at welterweight. Floyd's resume is thin in comparison to for example Bernard Hopkins or Manny Pacquiao, because Floyd and Al Haymon always prioritized safety. Al Haymon takes the credit for Floyd's fame, but with another manager Floyd could have been much more popular and also richer. Al Haymon focuses too much on Camp in his marketing, which has given Floyd a feminine persona. Constant theatricality and burlesque persona result in the public viewing Floyd as gay or mentally retarded for acting as gay without being one. Maybe Al is acting out his own persona through Floyd and having Floyd thanking him so often, really emphasises how mentally dependent Floyd is on him. In the negotiation for a fight in 2015, Floyd and Showtime claim that they are the A-side, but since Manny and HBO don't need the fight, they could easily claim 50%. Floyd will be remembered for his skills, and Manny will be remembered for his legacy. Both Floyd and Manny were lucky to get the media's spotlight when there were few other great American fighters available. . Your post is full of ****tt and selective. If you are gonna analyze his career, do it right, without skipping his prominent weights and the hard road he's taken to the top. Otherwise, go hang out with the Filipino from the UK who likes to sniff Floyd and his fans' asses. Overall, an F post. Next time, do more research.

but floyd didn't know his worth. i can prove this to you easily. he demanded 20 million when he was with arum to fight hoya. arum knew he wasn't worth that much. hoya knew he wasn't worth that much and so did floyd because he accepted 10 million to fight hoya after leaving. that's called pricing yourself out if you didn't know. floyd just wanted to leave top rank and arum let him because he knew floyd was being unreasonable and wouldn't have fought any of his guys like margarito. if you have the best fighter in the world but he won't fight then you don't have the best fighter in the world. That is called knowing you will win the fight, take less, and reaping the benefits which he did. Arum's lack of vision has everything to do with FMJ not being with TR. And FMJ leaving, proved he was worth it. Again, numbers don't lie. FMJ would have blew up the same way with TR if Arum would have paid his best fighter accordingly. FMJ knew his worth and you are talking about ducking and not wanting to fight when Arum himself has disputed your claim. That is why I said stop making *****e up. Your last sentence is just silly.

Undefeated record Clever marketing Playing the bad guy (people wanna see him lose) Social media Al Haymon 24/7 Finally... ODLH was the catalyst - once Floyd beat him he was on his way.

media did help him attain that.... floyd's status is a media creation.... yep just like the image of alot of things in this country! the media is powerful good post

Damn you must be a casual who just started watching Floyd after Oscar...he was a power puncher at the lower divisions..and his destruction of Gatti was his 1st ppv..but i wouldn't expect you to know about his was with Jesus Chavez..his 6 knock downs against Corrales or his brutal beating of Ndou..yea you never seen those fights..nor the beating he gave Manfredy..but yea he been boring his entire career right? LMAO, this is a rethorical thread Larry. I thought it was obvious from the overly negative spin in every point I made. You've never seen my posts before? I wanted to see which posters would come in here and give Floyd due props, which posters would come in and hate, and what conspiracy theories posters would come up with.

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread... How in the hell did Floyd become so popular??? We agree that by all accounts, to casuals he should be boring as hell inside the ring. Defensive style, doesnt go for the KO, no power, most of his fights are one-sided, throws one punch at a time, puts viewers to sleep... Career wise, he more known today for his cherry picking ways then giving the fans the fights we want. A Pac fight isnt the first time Floyd refused to give the fans what we want. And he aint the first the first guy to beat Hoya. Shane got to a higher level when he did that but never close to what Floyd is. Outside the ring, the guy is a complete mess. He cant express himself, is socially awkward, is not enigmatic or self-aware, most people dont a have a single good thing to say about him, I can go on and on before we even get to his criminal record. Yes he flashes money and that might make a reality tv episode interesting. One episode. Is that all??? If Rigo started throwing money around would HBO want him back on air? I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense. So how do ya'll think he made it to the top? by waking up to the corruption of boxing promoters, he opened the door for fighters to get paid, years ago it was unheard of for a WW to earn millions now all these guys are getting paid.... its good for boxing and then there is this illuminati thing...

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread... How in the hell did Floyd become so popular??? We agree that by all accounts, to casuals he should be boring as hell inside the ring. Defensive style, doesnt go for the KO, no power, most of his fights are one-sided, throws one punch at a time, puts viewers to sleep... Career wise, he more known today for his cherry picking ways then giving the fans the fights we want. A Pac fight isnt the first time Floyd refused to give the fans what we want. And he aint the first the first guy to beat Hoya. Shane got to a higher level when he did that but never close to what Floyd is. Outside the ring, the guy is a complete mess. He cant express himself, is socially awkward, is not enigmatic or self-aware, most people dont a have a single good thing to say about him, I can go on and on before we even get to his criminal record. Yes he flashes money and that might make a reality tv episode interesting. One episode. Is that all??? If Rigo started throwing money around would HBO want him back on air? I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense. So how do ya'll think he made it to the top? 3 words. Oscar De la Hoya.

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread... How in the hell did Floyd become so popular??? We agree that by all accounts, to casuals he should be boring as hell inside the ring. Defensive style, doesnt go for the KO, no power, most of his fights are one-sided, throws one punch at a time, puts viewers to sleep... Career wise, he more known today for his cherry picking ways then giving the fans the fights we want. A Pac fight isnt the first time Floyd refused to give the fans what we want. And he aint the first the first guy to beat Hoya. Shane got to a higher level when he did that but never close to what Floyd is. Outside the ring, the guy is a complete mess. He cant express himself, is socially awkward, is not enigmatic or self-aware, most people dont a have a single good thing to say about him, I can go on and on before we even get to his criminal record. Yes he flashes money and that might make a reality tv episode interesting. One episode. Is that all??? If Rigo started throwing money around would HBO want him back on air? I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense. So how do ya'll think he made it to the top? media did help him attain that.... floyd's status is a media creation....

You have got to have a very good understanding of boxing to fully understand what a rare talent he is , he does things in a boxing ring that are so subtle so brilliant that most fans dont even see it , he is an amazing fighter , this is why trainers and fighters are in awe of him , the opinions of hating fanboys dont mean sht , children dont buy fights , adults with a brain buy fights . Floyd is Micheal Jordon , Kelly Slater and Tiger Woods all rolled up in one . Too lazy to comment so, This^^^^^^^^^^^ Thank you sir, Your a gentleman and a scholar and one day I'm gonna dance at your wedding.

In the negotiation for a fight in 2015, Floyd and Showtime claim that they are the A-side, but since Manny and HBO don't need the fight, they could easily claim 50%. Floyd will be remembered for his skills, and Manny will be remembered for his legacy. Both Floyd and Manny were lucky to get the media's spotlight when there were few other great American fighters available. . personally i dont like 2 watch Floyd VS PAC, its because Floyd will never engage, he'll run and throw pot shots all night, it will be a cat & mouse fight but it needs to happen. for me Floyd style of fighting is not fun to watch and a waste of money. PAC fighting Mike garcia, crawford, JMM, Khan is more fun to watch. Floyd instead should play Volleyball as it fits his "Health comes 1st campaign"

Spinoff from the Roy Jones thread... How in the hell did Floyd become so popular??? ... I honestly dont get it. It makes no sense. So how do ya'll think he made it to the top? If you look at how the American media has been marketing boxing, it has traditionally been mainly the heavyweight division's fighters who have been in the spotlight. In the 1980s it was mainly Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield, and in the 1990s it was also Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis. However, in 2001 the Klitschkos had started to take over, and the American audience didn't respond to them, so the media turned to p4p-fighters instead. Roy Jones Jr and Oscar de la Hoya were building their p4p-fame in the 1990s, and Roy was in the media spotlight until his losses in 2004, while Oscar's losses to Shane Mosley in 2003 and Bernard Hopkins in 2004 also reduced his popularity. In 2005 it was a vacuum where the media was struggling to find good American fighters. After Roy's and Oscar's losses in 2004, Floyd was in 2005 catapulted to the p4p no 1, by the media, followed by Winky Wright as second. Manny was only no 5, because of his loss to Erik Morales in 2005. In the annual p4p-list of 2005 there were 5 Mexican fighters in the top 10 list, p4p, reflecting the miserable number of good American fighters. The American media didn't have any American fighters to write about so it made Chris Byrd the world's number one heavyweight fighter of 2005, but when Chris lost to Wladimir in 2006 there was nobody. However, down at Super-featherweight Manny Pacquiao won over Erik Morales twice in 2006, and there was potential for a media star. But Manny is not American and he is no Heavyweight fighter. In 2007, the media and HBO blew the importance of the Oscar-Floyd fight out of all proportions. Oscar had numerous losses behind him and was a shadow of his prime-self, so it was basically an Exhibition-match. However, the American media and HBO had no other boxing fight to focus on so it was made into a huge spectacle. Out of this spectacle came Floyd "Money" Mayweather, a skilled boxer with a new name. The media had a greater American boxer it could have focused on, Bernard Hopkins, but his losses to Jermain Taylor in 2005 indicated that he was passed his prime, so the media went with Floyd. Ironically, when Floyd "retired" in 2007, the media was stuck with Manny being the most popular boxer, a foreigner in the Super-featherweight division. Luckily, Manny's willingness to please the audience saved boxing. He continued to excite the audience with brutal knockouts, also moving up to Welterweight where he was prepared to face anyone. Meanwhile, Floyd returned in the end of 2009, wanting to claim the media's spotlight again. The media followed both Floyd and Manny, but after Manny's loss on knockout to Juan Manuel in 2012 Floyd's value was expected to increase, so Showtime bought six of his fights for over $200 million. Just like expected Manny had lost followers, but he kept winning also over great opposition and soon the media started to call for a Floyd-Manny fight again. Showtime was after four matches with Floyd stuck with a huge loss and the only way to recover the loss was to negotiate a fight between Manny and Floyd. So in 2015, Showtime will try to force Floyd to face Manny Pacquiao, who is by far the best fighter Floyd has ever faced. They might even try to force Floyd to fight Manny twice. Showtime is against the wall. Manny doesn't need Floyd because he can face many interesting fighters at 140lbs, for example Mikey Garcia, Terence Crawford, Juan Manuel Marquez or some of Al Haymon's fighters who would love to fight him at this stage of his career. Manny is naturally very small and enters the ring under 150lbs, so he would at this stage of his career be better off fighting boxers his own size. Terence Crawford was for example heavier in the ring at lightweight than Manny was at welterweight. Floyd's resume is thin in comparison to for example Bernard Hopkins or Manny Pacquiao, because Floyd and Al Haymon always prioritized safety. Al Haymon takes the credit for Floyd's fame, but with another manager Floyd could have been much more popular and also richer. Al Haymon focuses too much on Camp in his marketing, which has given Floyd a feminine persona. Constant theatricality and burlesque persona result in the public viewing Floyd as gay or mentally retarded for acting as gay without being one. Maybe Al is acting out his own persona through Floyd and having Floyd thanking him so often, really emphasises how mentally dependent Floyd is on him. In the negotiation for a fight in 2015, Floyd and Showtime claim that they are the A-side, but since Manny and HBO don't need the fight, they could easily claim 50%. Floyd will be remembered for his skills, and Manny will be remembered for his legacy. Both Floyd and Manny were lucky to get the media's spotlight when there were few other great American fighters available. .

self-proclaimed ATG(better than Ali, Better than SRL) people pay to see him lose those people are fans of fighters floyd beat via chicken style boxing marathon :hitit: He didn't call himself tbe till the canelo fight. Hell arum once said he's the best fighter since Ali lol

self-proclaimed ATG(better than Ali, Better than SRL) people pay to see him lose those people are fans of fighters floyd beat via chicken style boxing marathon :hitit:

For me it's one of two reasons. Some truly appreciate his boxing genius and some hate him and really want to see him lose.