that what i keep seeing and hearing. tell me how? When herrera had benavidez on the ropes he was hitting elbows and gloves ! no clean shots were landed! if you look at Compubox benavidez had the higher percentage in every category. So check the facts and rewatch the fight before you call roberry and listen to the biasedness of HBO . Herrea did have a high work rate but accuracy was low and threw a bunch of meaningless shots. Crisp cleaner punches were from benavidez . Grant it benavidez didnt look amazing which i expected that since Herrera awkward style does that to everyone .
the first 8 rds were clear on who got what rounds, and i had it even after the 8th. the last 4 were swing rounds for me so the decision could have gone in any direction.
herrera got good shots on the inside in the swing rounds but there were lots of times also that he let benavidez teed off on him and he didnt do nothing.
there was no robbery imo.
Herrera clearly won, there is no way 7rds could go to Benevidas. Why does everyone always point to some punches being block as a reason why someone didn't win the round when the fighter on the receiving end is laying on the ropes not even throwing for nearly minute stretches of rds as if Herrera has to take the round which will automatically be given to the young prospect as long as he isn't totally dominated?
what are you basing those 7 rounds on? activity? what did he do to win. ill tell you benavidez was countering beautifully in the middle of the ring . just looked ugly when he went to the ropes but even when he was n the ropes he wasnt getting tagged
herrera was busier that about it. The only punch he would land cleanly was the jab to the body. rewatch it in slow mo and see that herreras punches were meaning less. herrera wa seven hitting in the back of the head alot when Benavidez was against the ropes
Herrera clearly won, he was flat out the better fighter. It's a joke seeing a hard-nosed, pure grafter like Herrera get shafted so routinely. Boxing has become a joke.
Benavidez is your 2nd favorite fighter and maybe that is why you think he won. He has the potential to be a much better fighter than Herrera but he fought a stupid fight by laying on the ropes while Herrera pounded away on him in many rounds. A few Bradley fans thought Bradley won the first Pacquiao fight. They were wrong and I think you are wrong but your fighter got the win so be happy.
Naw...Worse Than Robbery!
Herrera Fell Victim To Pure Corruption In Boxing...don't be fooled by Oscar, Arum or who ever playing us for a FOOL acting like "THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE SCORING" and "THEY DISAGREED WITH THE SCORE" Blah Blah Blah they KNEW this is what it was going to be BEFORE THE 1st BELL!
Herrera was the SACRIFICIAL LAMB to a young fighter who HBO and Bob Arum has extremely High Hopes For going into the future. Come on I knew about Jose Benevidez when he was only 16-17 years old, did we honestly think they was going to let this kid lose his first big step up fight?
It has already been Written that Arum was going to make Jose Benevidez A SUPERSTAR! No Fukin Way they was going to allow Herrera to Ruin That!
Hard pill to swallow but Benavidez dad who is in the corner told Herrera that his son lost and that Herrera won the fight
His dad told him he needed a KO to win.
Getting unjust victories does not make a fighter better. Losing does. Losing makes you work harder and improve. That clown actually thinks he won the fight. He is overrated. I saw nothing special. He'll get sparked the second he faces someone with power. I love Herrera, but if you think Herrera is something great, you are kidding yourself.
Losing a fight as a young fighter doesn't automatically doesn't mean you're "ass" as you so eloquently stated. It's not all black and white man learn to be more insightful. Benavidez made a huge jump in class and showed he is a very skilled fighter. Rounds 4-6 he showed the potential many people see in him, Kellerman and Roy Jones pointed that out and I value their opinion at a higher scale than yours. Herrera being a good fighter adjusted and was able to take his momentum away by constantly changing up his approach.
Benavidez was accustomed to facing straight fastballs and in this instance he went up against a guy with a wide arsenal of pitches. Say what you want about Herrera not being great, but I can't think of many guys who are more complete fighters than he is. Not saying I can't think of better fighters simply saying there are few guys who show a more complete array of traits inside the ring.He can do it all inside and out, jabs to the body and upstairs as well as putting together combinations. Defensively he'll also throw a wide variety of looks at you. The guys can flat out fight so it comes as no surprise a guy accustomed to facing one dimensional fighters will look vulnerable at times against a complete fighter like Herrera.
Just caught the fight for the first time. Although I read about the "robbery" before seeing it, why was Kellerman and the rest already bringing up the idea that Herrera could get robbed tonight. They brought it up a few times during the fight.
I don't know, I'm just skeptical but I felt they knew the judges were gonna lean towards Benevidez.
I scored it 8-4 for Herrera. Closest round(s) were probably round 7, 11, and 12. It is possible to score it a draw.. its possible you could of given 7-5 for Benevidez, but I think it was closer to a draw than a clear cut Benevidez victory.
Had Benevidez had more activity in the first four rounds it would of been easier to give him a win.
He got robbed plain and simple and you can't talk it away with some fancy bs of why he didn't get robbed You are certainly entitled to your opinion but be aware that you are part of a tiny minority who think the decision was fair and correct. I think I speak for the vast majority of boxing fans who think Herrera was ROBBED BIG TIME.
People wanted Herrera to win. That's it. If fighters started being rewarded for throwing a thousand blocked punches, people here would be up in arms. Look at the way they treat Calzaghe for throwing light punches.
What would have been fair is not to put Benavidez who had never never been past six against a skilled veteran. And just because he had some glimpses when he looked very good and will potentially down the line be the better boxer doesn't mean he should win a fight he lost.
Maybe he did out hustle the other guy, who tended to lapse into momentary laziness. But the other guy did look more polished. Draw would have been fair.
Your 2nd favorite fighter is ass.
Nice insightful break-down sir :boxing:
Benavidez gave a good account of himself against one of the most complete fighters in the sport, and the best fighter in his division. Dude went straight to fighting the best after a series of fights against lower level opposition. He's still a work in progress, but the majority of the mistakes he made are correctable such as staying off the ropes and lowering his chin as Roy Jones stated. A fight that will benefit his growth and the fact he was extremely competitive means he's got a bright future ahead of himself.
that what i keep seeing and hearing. tell me how? When herrera had benavidez on the ropes he was hitting elbows and gloves ! no clean shots were landed! if you look at Compubox benavidez had the higher percentage in every category. So check the facts and rewatch the fight before you call roberry and listen to the biasedness of HBO . Herrea did have a high work rate but accuracy was low and threw a bunch of meaningless shots. Crisp cleaner punches were from benavidez . Grant it benavidez didnt look amazing which i expected that since Herrera awkward style does that to everyone .
7 rounds... List the 7 rounds you gave Benavidez if in fact you had him winning.
Personally I could have easily seen this fight as a draw. I thought the first half of the fight was clearly 3 rounds a piece with Herrera winning the first three and Benavidez the latter 3. The second half were more swing rounds but I believe I had Herrera winning 4 of those rounds. Basically I had it 7-5 Herrera but could've seen it as a draw.
If we're using the Shostats the difference in punches landed(35 difference for Herrera) comes as a result of the first three rounds where Benavidez looked lost and confused. The first 3 rounds Herrera outlanded Benavidez by close to 50 total punches.
It's a shame the scorecards were so wide though because it was a fascinating fight, quite possibly the best fight of this weekend. Benavidez showed flashes of developing into a great fighter hopefully this will be a learning experience for his development. Herrera is such a pleasure to watch, one of the most exciting even though he lacks punching power. He can do it all, one of the most complete fighters in the sport.
Pretty much totally agree with this. I scored it a draw but it could have been 7-5 either way with very few complaints.
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