Victor Ortiz showing speed and power for 12/13

GO ORTIZ! :boxing::boxing::boxing:

His problem is his brain. Not the lack of speed or power! Yup. Imo, the problem is in his head. I don't think he has as much real love for the sport as some of his competition. I think this kid made some dough, spent it and is now realizing that it'll be really hard to find a better paying gig. Will that be sufficient motivation? If he's grown up a little bit, maybe. I wish him luck. WARTIZ!! :boxing:

You know how much heart it takes to step into the ring? Even sparring is hard but to actually step into the ring to fight monsters such as Marcos Maidana and co and then to have nerds on the internet claim you have no heart? Just try and imagine it, no headgear, no sparring ''we'll take it easy'' crap, no 3 or 4 rounds, no 16oz gloves, your standing face to face with a prime Marcos Maidana the tattooed fearsome looking motherfucker who's looking to take your fucking head off, literally trying to knock you the fuck out, how much heart does it take to even fight him, let alone go to war with him like he did for 4 or 5 rounds or whatever it was? Must be ridiculous to experience that from Ortiz's point of view IMO. Just saying. Yeah he might not have the extraordinary heart some other fighters do, but he's showed a whole lot of heart. I would have to agree and disagree. While Ortiz has showed a lack of heart but also a great deal of heart at other times in his career. During the fight with Berto they both showed an abundant amount of heart, both being dropped multiple times by big shots. Sadly he showed a lack of heart in Maidana and Lopez. He showed frustration during the Mayweather fight, which could be translated as not having the correct mindset for this stage of the sport. Though many may speak from a viewers standpoint, he has become a disappointment and has shown the lack of desire to be able to compete at the high levels. He has shown the capability to do wonders in the ring but it often leads to disappointing outcomes. I do disagree saying it Maidana was a such a frightening opponent he just couldn't handle a beating which is what this sport is revolved around... either give a beating or take a beating... Ortiz has shown a lack of focus and leaving frustration to quiting. Watching Lopez, he was often showing frustration trying to Knock out his opponent and opening his mouth. This, which in boxing is something that can often lead to a broken jaw and did so that night. Disappointing because Ortiz was showing a great performance. Sadly I don't believe he had the brains or heart to compete at the level he hopes and now a questionable chin. If he wear to somehow change or work on his focus and drive I believe he could go far once again. Unfortunately I see a man that is just to self absorbed he believes he is already too good for the sport.

Didn't get to see if he had heart in the Collazo. It was his chin that broke first... Happened against Lopez too. Sadly for Ortiz who has all the physical gifts but lacks great amount of heart but also shows a glass chin. He got hurt, took a knee, and quit against Collazo. How is that not showing his lack of heart again? People talk like Collazo flattened him when he just hurt him and Ortiz decided he didn't want any.

He's still a tree, bros.

They should make Ortiz vs Judah "The battle of the quittest"

They should make Ortiz vs Judah Plenty of big fights left for Ortiz if he can manage to build himself back up. Ortiz - Khan would be good as would Ortiz - Rios probably quite a few more.

He needs defense.

They should make Ortiz vs Judah

Manuel perez is going to test victor. In that ring....boxing fans have a treat next saturday night!! Warrrtizzzzzz!

I think Ortiz is one of the most wasted talents in modern day boxing. He has all the physical traits but mentally very weak. if he had the heart, he'd be on the top of the 147lbs along with the biggest stars of them.

Its not his brain that is the problem, its his technique. He has no boxing technique, he just fights like a brawler, but moves and acts like a boxer in the ring. If you're going to brawl, don't take the metal off the pedal, and be prepared for war.

I don't want to hate on Ortiz or claim that a professional prizefighter has no heart from behind my computer screen, but I am sure you know what I mean. It does not matter how much speed or power he is showing lately, if he mentally wobbles then the same old story will repeat itself for him. Again, do not think I am judging a fighters heart from behind the safety of my keyboard, but it must be said that Ortiz does waver when times get hard, that is just a well known factor about his game, and speed or power doesn't help that. You could be the hardest puncher in the history of all mankind but if you crumble when it doesn't go your way it will count for a lot less. Best of luck to him though...

I think once ortiz gets some heart his chin will hold up. His spirit will always break before his chin Didn't get to see if he had heart in the Collazo. It was his chin that broke first... Happened against Lopez too. Sadly for Ortiz who has all the physical gifts but lacks great amount of heart but also shows a glass chin.

I've given up all hope in Victor. He has all the physical gifts in the world and has no heart. I can't ever see him being more than a fringe contender, unfortunately

Hopefully the heavy bag does not comeback to fast and hit him on the chin...He will quit in training

wtf im not gonna watch his fights. He'll just quit again.

You know how much heart it takes to step into the ring? Even sparring is hard but to actually step into the ring to fight monsters such as Marcos Maidana and co and then to have nerds on the internet claim you have no heart? Just try and imagine it, no headgear, no sparring ''we'll take it easy'' crap, no 3 or 4 rounds, no 16oz gloves, your standing face to face with a prime Marcos Maidana the tattooed fearsome looking motherfucker who's looking to take your fucking head off, literally trying to knock you the fuck out, how much heart does it take to even fight him, let alone go to war with him like he did for 4 or 5 rounds or whatever it was? Must be ridiculous to experience that from Ortiz's point of view IMO. Just saying. Yeah he might not have the extraordinary heart some other fighters do, but he's showed a whole lot of heart. Great write up. he is "mentally" weak and does not hold the warrior / fighter mentality some of the greats hold, not lack of heart, because you have to have balls and heart to face fighters who want to take your head off. Even when fighting no bodies, you need heart, because they want a great win with a great name on the record.

His problem is his brain. Not the lack of speed or power!

talk to me when ortiz shows heart and chin You know how much heart it takes to step into the ring? Even sparring is hard but to actually step into the ring to fight monsters such as Marcos Maidana and co and then to have nerds on the internet claim you have no heart? Just try and imagine it, no headgear, no sparring ''we'll take it easy'' crap, no 3 or 4 rounds, no 16oz gloves, your standing face to face with a prime Marcos Maidana the tattooed fearsome looking motherfucker who's looking to take your fucking head off, literally trying to knock you the fuck out, how much heart does it take to even fight him, let alone go to war with him like he did for 4 or 5 rounds or whatever it was? Must be ridiculous to experience that from Ortiz's point of view IMO. Just saying. Yeah he might not have the extraordinary heart some other fighters do, but he's showed a whole lot of heart.