You cowboys just stop with the nonsense crapping on Algieri. He fought the same way he'z Always fought,. He went up against Pac of course he'll look like shiet. Wouldve Khan survived Prov? I doubt it. Bradley barely survived Prov with his life. Khan is nothing but he will give Floyd problems deal with it. Imagine having a larger fanbase than Maidana, wins a fkin survey from Floyd still didn't get the fight. He got ducked because Floyd hates speedy boxers. Deal with it!
lol how people were saying algieri will give pac problems tho, no one picked chino to beat floyd.
nobody with any credibility picked algieri to give pac problems.
Algieri fought someone with a 14-12 record a year ago. the guy sucks ass.
I think alot of people were just trying to be optimistic about the fight. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Pac still had work to do though, and he got it done.
In my opinion it was more about having the physical tools .
Algieri has the physical tools to be somebody you don't look good against: he's tall for jww, has a long reach, is fast enough of hand and foot.
Given the fact he is perceived as a boxer people were drawn to believe he could give Pac problems.
Unfortunately the fight wasn't even competitive and Algieri looked like a dazed and confused version of Lara (and to make things worse I believe his coach was kinda stoned, he should work with Chavez Jr if you ask me)
I don't think much of Khan, but I think he stops Algeri pretty easy. More than likely, Algeri's going to get passed around the TR guys like Vargas & Crawford.
Maidana has a better resume than Algeri, but the issue is, Floyd had better opponents as possibilities to fight. Pacquiao didn't.
BS Khan was available as well as offering Pac the fight.
Let's be real Khan would of given a better and entertaining fight then the runner Algeri.
I'm tired of this who deserves and who doesn't I want to see good fights, challenging fights..
What top fighter at 147 doesn't beat Algieri?
Pac just annihilated him, Mayweather would embarrass him, Brook would blast him out...Thurman, Bradley, Khan - all these guys beat him up.
its crazy to see how all these fighters and pro trainers had aligeri giving pac problems, i guess this fight really put algieri's true skill into perspective
but yeah i see your point
I think alot of people were just trying to be optimistic about the fight. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Pac still had work to do though, and he got it done.
Granted you have a point, I respect your opinion, but I think there is a little more to it than just this. . . Algeri isn't a complete boxer, or doesn't have very good ring IQ/experience, it's one thing to move alot, but if all you're doing is moving, and you don't have the ability to set faints/traps/switch rhythm/control ring generalship and dictate the pace of the fight then/or even have any sort of pop in your jab let alone put combinations together. . . if all you are doing is moving, then really it's just a matter of time before you get you know, Pacquiao'd in this case.
I suppose Bradley is a better example of what I'm referring to, he is a more complete boxer/mover than Algeri, and again going back to your point, Pac handled him too. So
I think Bradley had an ankle injury in the second fight and that hindered his movement later on, not using it as an excuse, it's just what happens in boxing sometimes, it's upto Pac to capitalize on that, and he did so. Tough luck Bradley.
. . . yes valid opinion you do make, but you do understand where I'm coming from, I suppose Keith Thurman/Lomachecko is a good example of what I'm referring to with complete boxers who move well and have the other fundamentals to go with it.
its crazy to see how all these fighters and pro trainers had aligeri giving pac problems, i guess this fight really put algieri's true skill into perspective
but yeah i see your point
Maidana has a better resume than Algeri, but the issue is, Floyd had better opponents as possibilities to fight. Pacquiao didn't.
I would definitely agree with this.
As far as Khan goes, I'm sure he would beat Algieri, probably by UD. However I do not think he would knock him down 6 times lol... maybe once.
Maidana has a better resume than Algeri, but the issue is, Floyd had better opponents as possibilities to fight. Pacquiao didn't.
Why do you say that? If al haymon is willing to let Garcia(one of his cash cows) to fight pacquiao, are you that dumb to believe that he wouldnt have allowed maidana, Thurman, Alexander, or porter to fight him? Those fighters were available, it's just that pacquiao wouldn't have the balls the face any of these ww's, which is why he went to espn to find his next opponent.
but even dating back as far as i can remember people only say pac has success against people who stand still and are flat footed, and would have trouble with a mover/runner
and maidana has the better resume i cant deny that, but even though maidana is a come foward brawler with some deceiving skill, he still has slow feet and slow hands, the type of guy floyd/manny picks apart. like i said previously people have continuously said stuff like pac only looks good against flat footed guys. now here is beating a guy who is the complete opposite
Granted you have a point, I respect your opinion, but I think there is a little more to it than just this. . . Algeri isn't a complete boxer, or doesn't have very good ring IQ/experience, it's one thing to move alot, but if all you're doing is moving, and you don't have the ability to set faints/traps/switch rhythm/control ring generalship and dictate the pace of the fight then/or even have any sort of pop in your jab let alone put combinations together. . . if all you are doing is moving, then really it's just a matter of time before you get you know, Pacquiao'd in this case.
I suppose Bradley is a better example of what I'm referring to, he is a more complete boxer/mover than Algeri, and again going back to your point, Pac handled him too. So
I think Bradley had an ankle injury in the second fight and that hindered his movement later on, not using it as an excuse, it's just what happens in boxing sometimes, it's upto Pac to capitalize on that, and he did so. Tough luck Bradley.
. . . yes valid opinion you do make, but you do understand where I'm coming from, I suppose Keith Thurman/Lomachecko is a good example of what I'm referring to with complete boxers who move well and have the other fundamentals to go with it.
Well let's be honest, the people who were picking Algeri to give Pac problems were A. either people with an agenda against Pac, or B. I dunno, just not really clued up on who Algeri really is.
I admit, I was intrigued to see how this fight went, I guess even I was swayed by their opinions, but I did expect Pac to win this one by UD (was even hoping for a TKO) . . But either way, just look at Algeri and Maidana's resumes and try and tell me different.
but even dating back as far as i can remember people only say pac has success against people who stand still and are flat footed, and would have trouble with a mover/runner
and maidana has the better resume i cant deny that, but even though maidana is a come foward brawler with some deceiving skill, he still has slow feet and slow hands, the type of guy floyd/manny picks apart. like i said previously people have continuously said stuff like pac only looks good against flat footed guys. now here is beating a guy who is the complete opposite
lol how people were saying algieri will give pac problems tho, no one picked chino to beat floyd.
Well let's be honest, the people who were picking Algeri to give Pac problems were A. either people with an agenda against Pac, or B. I dunno, just not really clued up on who Algeri really is.
I admit, I was intrigued to see how this fight went, I guess even I was swayed by their opinions, but I did expect Pac to win this one by UD (was even hoping for a TKO) . . But either way, just look at Algeri and Maidana's resumes and try and tell me different.
Algieri was just another flat footed, come forward brawler with no foot movement or ring generalship coming off a huge loss. Just like every other typical Pacquiao opponent.