This was just a terrible uneducated post man..Hopkins is far from overrated if anything he is underrated..the man cleaned out 160 and yea he lost to Taykor in 2 close fights when he was freakin 40..then he has gone on to be a top champ at 175 and yea he lost to Dawson at 47 man...
Hopkins is a freak of nature but he has always struggled with slick technicians and toney was a professor in the ring at all aspects. I just cant see Hopkins winning against toney
Prime Toney puts Kovalev in ICU
a prime james toney would have boxed circles around kovalev. I liken kovalev to jirov who lost to toney in a tough fight but jirov was a bit bigger and stronger than kovalev imo. I think kovalev would have had moments but no way in hell is he out boxing or stopping james toney. that guy was a freak in terms of being able to absorb punches and rolling with them and countering
toney all day. Hopkins is a master at beating the one dimensional sluggers but hes ordinary when facing a skilled boxer with hand speed and defense. toney would always beat Hopkins and I say this with the utmost confidence. if youre not hurting or out speeding toney youre not going to beat him
Great speed and athleticism seems to give Hopkins problems which Toney doesn't necessarily bring to the table but workrate gives Toney problems and Hopkins definitely doesn't bring that to the table.
But i would still go with Hopkins, much more accomplished at the weight and comfortable at 160 unlike Toney plus i think being the taller of the two he would force Toney to be the aggressor which would open up doors for Hopkins to exploit.
This was just a terrible uneducated post man..Hopkins is far from overrated if anything he is underrated..the man cleaned out 160 and yea he lost to Taykor in 2 close fights when he was freakin 40..then he has gone on to be a top champ at 175 and yea he lost to Dawson at 47 man...
one could seriously debate those losses to Taylor as well, especially considering Hopkins did exactly what he said he would do "taking Jermaine out to deep water and drowning him."
If Hopkins and Toney fought prime....WOW!! One guy was a natural talent who made everything look easy, the other guy a tactician, an inside fighter who could outhink you, find your bad habits and make you pay for them. I couldn't predict who would win that one.... Two great fighters with different skill sets.
Here are some points to consider:
a) Hopkins could take away Toney's counter punching by using a jab and jumping inside instead of trying to combo punch after the jab because the michigan shoulder roll has a weakness against a jab.
b) Toney could time Hopkins coming in and hold his own inside....though Toney, as a boxer puncher likes to operate outside this range to get shots off.
Hopkins should win in my opinion in a fight that goes the distance and is fairly close. Toney was a great fighter in his prime but Hopkins was a little bit better and cooler under pressure. Hopkins is far more consistent than Toney and has been in top condition for every fight he ever had. Toney was not in top shape for many of his fights. Both are very smart, skillful boxer-punchers.
Toney is slicker, quicker, and more of a nigga.
Basically, Toney is a Silverback gorilla and Hopkins is just a bitch ass chimpanzee.
Toney beats his ass like a runaway slave.
WHO NEXT! I GOT MILK BABY.
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James Toney UD or James Toney via Hopkins faking again lol. I think Toney would drop him too. Hopkins is one of the most overrated fighters ever... if his resume was dissected the way people do to Mayweather or Pac people would open their eyes. Hopkins credentials get overlooked because of his age. Im not saying he's not a good fighter he is... imo he's overrated. Making a career off smaller men like Tito, ODLH, and Pavlik isn't that great of a feat compared to his contemporaries. He got beat by Taylor and Dawson... plus faked injuries like a cunt.
This was just a terrible uneducated post man..Hopkins is far from overrated if anything he is underrated..the man cleaned out 160 and yea he lost to Taykor in 2 close fights when he was freakin 40..then he has gone on to be a top champ at 175 and yea he lost to Dawson at 47 man...
James Toney UD or James Toney via Hopkins faking again lol. I think Toney would drop him too. Hopkins is one of the most overrated fighters ever... if his resume was dissected the way people do to Mayweather or Pac people would open their eyes. Hopkins credentials get overlooked because of his age. Im not saying he's not a good fighter he is... imo he's overrated. Making a career off smaller men like Tito, ODLH, and Pavlik isn't that great of a feat compared to his contemporaries. He got beat by Taylor and Dawson... plus faked injuries like a cunt.
You can't be serious man.............come on now.......
Haha I guess we will find out when he fights Bernard. Toney would make this an ugly fight. Kovalev would get countered allllllll night long. I mean he was dropped in his last fight against Caparello. This style match up would make Kovalev look like a punching bag if Toney fights close. B-hop vs Toney would be pretty boring, but if I was a betting man I'd say Bernard Hopkins UD.
Nah Caparello stepped on his foot and then punched him with his foot on Kovalevs, thats 175lbs. He lost his balance, that's all. Anybody would of fell.
But yeah we will see Saturday night
Kovalev has more then just power.......
Haha I guess we will find out when he fights Bernard. Toney would make this an ugly fight. Kovalev would get countered allllllll night long. I mean he was dropped in his last fight against Caparello. This style match up would make Kovalev look like a punching bag if Toney fights close. B-hop vs Toney would be pretty boring, but if I was a betting man I'd say Bernard Hopkins UD.