Is Andre Ward going to retire

Damn...he goin' out like a real b1tch

If Ward retired now, he'd forever be in Calzaghe's shadow. He's got a ways to go to surpass that and very doubtful he ever will.

dirrell froch was fun in the championship rd's, when dirrell got brave and stopped running, and he beat froch up, for 2 rd's, think the 12th was kinda close

At least he has a backup job as a HBO commentator.

as for dirrell, he landed virtually all of the meaningful punches in that fight, and had froch swinging like an amateur. Anyone can not engage and leave the other guy swinging. It's not that impressive. Some refs simply won't allow it and tell the guy to engage and fight. he didn't behave professionally, but he was never deducted for anything. He was deducted a point. http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=291903&cat=boxer i remember a thread on ESB, a british website with several times more british posters than NSB, that had dirrell winning a poll by about 30-40%. i don'te care to go through the scores from writers at press row, but memory seems to lead me to believe that they were mostly in favor of dirrell. did dirrell behave like a woman? in spots, absolutely. he also landed the cleaner and more effective punches. i watched the first 4 rounds of that fight recently. that was probably two weeks back. it's a boring fight, so i don't sufffer through it too regularly. froch was outclassed. he didn't have it athletically, and his offense was too crude for an athlet with skills like dirrell. if dirrell, an inactive fighter, fought froch in december, who would you pick? Froch, as the A-side he would dictate ring size and knock Dirrell out (or have him quit).

not stoo sure what the deal is with the bold. that "slicked his way" line was a reference to prince ward. as for dirrell, he landed virtually all of the meaningful punches in that fight, and had froch swinging like an amateur. he didn't behave professionally, but he was never deducted for anything. i remember a thread on ESB, a british website with several times more british posters than NSB, that had dirrell winning a poll by about 30-40%. i don'te care to go through the scores from writers at press row, but memory seems to lead me to believe that they were mostly in favor of dirrell. did dirrell behave like a woman? in spots, absolutely. he also landed the cleaner and more effective punches. i watched the first 4 rounds of that fight recently. that was probably two weeks back. it's a boring fight, so i don't sufffer through it too regularly. froch was outclassed. he didn't have it athletically, and his offense was too crude for an athlet with skills like dirrell. if dirrell, an inactive fighter, fought froch in december, who would you pick? Saying Dirrel won the fight and saying he outclassed or worked over Froch are two different things thicko

after completely outlcassing glen johnson in the rematch, dawson was put onto the p4p list of ring magazine. he was removed after losing to pascal in the fight that let me know "this guy is never going to take that next step." if chad dawson had a brain, and threw punches, he'd have been a hell of a light heavyweight. Let me make it clear, I meant he wasn't a p4p fighter at the time of the Ward fight. And yeah, Dawson could have been so much better. The Pascal fight was so frustrating as a fan of his.

And he was NEVER in a "p4p contest" with Floyd Mayweather. Especially not when Ward fought him. He wasn't a p4p fighter, period. after completely outlcassing glen johnson in the rematch, dawson was put onto the p4p list of ring magazine. he was removed after losing to pascal in the fight that let me know "this guy is never going to take that next step." if chad dawson had a brain, and threw punches, he'd have been a hell of a light heavyweight.

Dirrell is overrated man. He couldn't beat Froch without resorting to diving, holding and not engaging. He couldn't beat Abraham without faking a hippy hippy shake. Who has he beat? at this point in his career, no one. not stoo sure what the deal is with the bold. that "slicked his way" line was a reference to prince ward. as for dirrell, he landed virtually all of the meaningful punches in that fight, and had froch swinging like an amateur. he didn't behave professionally, but he was never deducted for anything. i remember a thread on ESB, a british website with several times more british posters than NSB, that had dirrell winning a poll by about 30-40%. i don'te care to go through the scores from writers at press row, but memory seems to lead me to believe that they were mostly in favor of dirrell. did dirrell behave like a woman? in spots, absolutely. he also landed the cleaner and more effective punches. i watched the first 4 rounds of that fight recently. that was probably two weeks back. it's a boring fight, so i don't sufffer through it too regularly. froch was outclassed. he didn't have it athletically, and his offense was too crude for an athlet with skills like dirrell. if dirrell, an inactive fighter, fought froch in december, who would you pick?

Dawson at 168 isn't the Dawson who was "in a P4P contest". And he was NEVER in a "p4p contest" with Floyd Mayweather. Especially not when Ward fought him. He wasn't a p4p fighter, period.

british casuals are never above being stupid. most froch of the froch fans at the wembley fight probably couldn't tell andre ward from andre dirrell. both would absolutely work froch, of course. dirrell already did. ward was more of a "slicked his way to the easiest UD you will ever see." Dirrell is overrated man. He couldn't beat Froch without resorting to diving, holding and not engaging. He couldn't beat Abraham without faking a hippy hippy shake. Who has he beat? at this point in his career, no one.

british casuals are never above being stupid. most froch of the froch fans at the wembley fight probably couldn't tell andre ward from andre dirrell. both would absolutely work froch, of course. dirrell already did. ward was more of a "slicked his way to the easiest UD you will ever see." Well Dirrell didn't absolutely work Froch unless you count diving on the canvas and hugging him as "working" someone. He looked really good in some rounds and ran for the majority. Ward won a fairly ho-hum decision where he got dog tired at the end and started desperately looking at the clock. Virgil Hunter said it was the hardest fight they ever hard.

just wait until i get out there with two healthy hands and shoulders. 2015 is my year. i'm going to get al haymon to buy out my contract, and then thank him.

Most Froch fans don't think he can beat Ward. What is wrong with that? I'd like to see him get another crack at some point but I wouldn't pick him to win. What does that have to do with Froch being the money man in the division? Ward is bitter that he isn't in that position hence why he's contemplating retirement. british casuals are never above being stupid. most froch of the froch fans at the wembley fight probably couldn't tell andre ward from andre dirrell. both would absolutely work froch, of course. dirrell already did. ward was more of a "slicked his way to the easiest UD you will ever see."

froch fans do the same thing :lol1: "froch makes more money doe" "froch a cash cow doe" Most Froch fans don't think he can beat Ward. What is wrong with that? I'd like to see him get another crack at some point but I wouldn't pick him to win. What does that have to do with Froch being the money man in the division? Ward is bitter that he isn't in that position hence why he's contemplating retirement.

Ward retiring would be good for boxing. He's a selfish prima donna who demands home advantage for every fight so he can use shady referees like Jack Reiss who permit him to foul with deliberate head butts, hitting off the break and excessive clamping of his opponents arms. the biggest klitschko fan on the planet can't possibly be serious with this :lol1:

People dont like ward because he beat froch with one hand, and because ggg said he'd fight anyone from 154-168 and he called ggg out on that. they got hurt because he would wipe the floor with their new hero. and they had nothing they could say about it except he shouldnt fight anymore, nothing about ggg steping not stepping up to the plate to fight #2 p4p, I never heard one of ggg fans make a case that ggg could beat him. Just jealous people protecting there favorite fighter. If he never does ggg is just a hype job, and forever will be. :nonono: froch fans do the same thing :lol1: "froch makes more money doe" "froch a cash cow doe"

:lol1::lol1: nah Triple G is legit...but I know exactly what you're talking about....green k!!! Agreed!!!!

Oh the Ward Haters all wearing their umbrellas like in Hong Kong. Its touching really. Lets overlook the Dawson win, the guy who was for a time considered in a pound for pound contest with Floydy....And then lets all cry about Ward's style which is not pleasing to the hater's eye:bottle::bottle:. Ward could have retired yesterday and would still deal with the mediocre Froch's of the division......:flowers1: Dawson at 168 isn't the Dawson who was "in a P4P contest".

i'm probably just going to take a knee at the gym, and ascend into heaven. i'll see you at the right hand of the father.