You didn't even score the fight, so stop pulling all these false scores out of your arse son.
Are you mad now?
Yes actually I scored it and for me it was 116-112 to Abrham. I can't do nothing with Smith's workrate (which wasn't that very high) if his punches mainly hit Abraham's guard while Abrhams's little less throwed punches hit though his guard or just hit him, btw way more effectively and with more power than Smith's.
Only thing in what Smth was better is workrate, but not so much and not in all the rounds. Abraham had the better defense, Abraham landed the harder, more effective punches, Abraham was the more accurate. So if Abraham's offense and defense was better than Smith's I really can't see how Smith would won this. Don't overrate that workrate, that wasn't that high... Especialy wasn't that high that he would won the fight only because of that...
I can argue the 117-111 as well but for me it was 116-112 to Abraham. He had more clear rounds. And he bounced Smith plenty of times. And Smith didn't outwork him that much... And he definitely didn't outbox anyone. Abraham was lazy though... But during the whole fight I had the feeling that if Abraham lets his hands go a little more, Smith won't be able to do nothing, but Abraham was too lazy and comfortable. However when he let his hands go, Smith was staggered plenty of times IMO.
I think most people who watched that fight would agree that when he let his hands go he looked the better fighter.
But the thing is rarely did let his hands go.
There wouldn't be that many objections if all the even rounds were scored to Abraham and he won that way. The problem is he was also given the rounds in which he did pretty much fuk all.
I can argue the 117-111 as well but for me it was 116-112 to Abraham. He had more clear rounds. And he bounced Smith plenty of times. And Smith didn't outwork him that much... And he definitely didn't outbox anyone. Abraham was lazy though... But during the whole fight I had the feeling that if Abraham lets his hands go a little more, Smith won't be able to do nothing, but Abraham was too lazy and comfortable. However when he let his hands go, Smith was staggered plenty of times IMO.
You didn't even score the fight, so stop pulling all these false scores out of your arse son.
This isn't accurate, one of the reasons Abraham wasn't able to follow-up and finish was Smith's power, every time he'd go in hard Smith would retaliate with a big shot. He also backed Abraham up in multiple rounds with bodyshots.
I don't think Abraham was expecting Smith's power or level of punch resistance.
Yes sometimes he replied nice with single shots, mainly in the first half of the fight but usually Abraham still hit him more and surely did it with more power.
I scored it a Split Decision win for Abraham. Let me explain.
-My normal level headed Canadian most dominant personality scored it 115-113 Abraham and declares both are basically fringe guys fighting on the fake world level because both refuse to fight anyone actually good.
-My British heritage dominant personality scored it 120-108 Smith
-My German heritage dominant personality scored it 120-108 Abraham.
I wasn't scoring accurately - I was too busy wanking - but I think in a realistic world then Abrahammer won by, at most, 115-113. He looked lazy in there, and, although Smith's offence wasn't great, he did look like he gassed him at points to the body.
I thought even 117 was a piss take tbh.
Smith losing wasn't an issue, or even a draw... but to say he lost eleven rounds? How many did you have him losing? Sometimes the Abrahammer did **** all.
I can argue the 117-111 as well but for me it was 116-112 to Abraham. He had more clear rounds. And he bounced Smith plenty of times. And Smith didn't outwork him that much... And he definitely didn't outbox anyone. Abraham was lazy though... But during the whole fight I had the feeling that if Abraham lets his hands go a little more, Smith won't be able to do nothing, but Abraham was too lazy and comfortable. However when he let his hands go, Smith was staggered plenty of times IMO.
Lol, How on Earth can anyone thinks that Smith won? Seriously don't understand. Someone please explain me. For me it was crystal clear. Abraham punches hurt Smith not just once on the other hand Smit's offense was weak and he didn't outwork Abraham that much that he could take away rounds only because of that.
This isn't accurate, one of the reasons Abraham wasn't able to follow-up and finish was Smith's power, every time he'd go in hard Smith would retaliate with a big shot. He also backed Abraham up in multiple rounds with bodyshots.
I don't think Abraham was expecting Smith's power or level of punch resistance.
I feel for Smith there, those scorecards were an insult to him. I had it a draw..either way, it was a close fight.
Smith has always been a tidy boxer, but he surprised a lot of people with his performance tonight. Gallagher had a good game plan and Smith put up a good showing. Real shame about those cards.
Do you have Malignaggi losing every bout he's been in?
No but do you really think that Smith outboxed Abraham? Most of his punches hit Abraham's guard. He was a little more active, but not so much on the other hand Abraham's punches were wayyy more effective. If Smith would otbox Abraham then he would won but he didn't and his offense was seemingly a lot weaker than Abraham's so I really can't see how the hell he won this fight in some people scorecards. I didn't even wondering about after the fight that this will be a scandal here and some people will call it a robbery. I thought that plenty of people will complain about the over the top 119-109, but that Smith won the fight? NO way I actually laughed when I see that he complained after the decision because I found hard to believe that he actually thought that he won.
Abraham clearly won the 3rd fight with Stieglitz. Don't know what you saw there...
Not even going to bother arguing with a Brit over a Brit. Abraham bounced him around like a 2nd class citizen.
Well a Brit is gonna smash your boy, so be ready for that....if he dares that is.
Lol, How on Earth can anyone thinks that Smith won? Seriously don't understand. Someone please explain me. For me it was crystal clear. Abraham punches hurt Smith not just once on the other hand Smit's offense was weak and he didn't outwork Abraham that much that he could take away rounds only because of that.
I reckon Smith edged it.
Will have to watch it again because I may have gotten carried away with the emotion of the bout.
Smith will get another change if/when Groves and/or DeGale get their hands on a belt.
I'm not even surprised anymore. The amount of gift decisions Abraham gets is astounding. I thought the was getting out-boxed by Sjekloca, next thing you know the fight is over Abraham wins by like 8 rounds on the scorecards. I thought the 3rd fight with Stieglitz was also a gift decision.
You have to stop this guy to beat him like Robert Stieglitz did. Otherwise he's going to keep getting his decisions go his way.
Smith won the fight imo.
Abraham clearly won the 3rd fight with Stieglitz. Don't know what you saw there...
You can't score a fight for 5hit son!
Paul won that by two rounds but I wouldn't have been bothered if it was just by one round. He won that fight.
Not even going to bother arguing with a Brit over a Brit. Abraham bounced him around like a 2nd class citizen.
Did Smith only win between 1 to 3 rounds in this fight is the question.
The scoring was way too wide for that kind of fight which clearly shows something is wrong.
Its not a question of who won it's a question of was one boxer in that fight ever even going to get close to winning regardless of what kind of a performance he puts on.
I can feel what Dan Rafael is saying,it really does turn people away from the sport.
Boxing lost a little bit more of credibility tonight...shameful
Didn't say AA should've won wide but I seriously fail to see how Smith "won". He did better than expected so that equates to a victory for some people. Smith took punishment in some of his best rounds even. He didn't win the fight, or quite get a draw.
You can't score a fight for 5hit son!
Paul won that by two rounds but I wouldn't have been bothered if it was just by one round. He won that fight.
Fat Dan sums it up:
Disgusting. No issue if you give Abraham fight by rd, even 2. By 11?????? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? Unreal. Shame. #boxing #AbrahamSmith— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) September 27, 2014
I***39;m so disgusted. I***39;m out. I need to contemplate my sport. #boxing #AbrahamSmith— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) September 27, 2014
Dan doesn't actually do any sport, but I get what he means.
professional eating is a sport too.
Abraham's just not active enough to win wide on cards, never has been.
AA absorbed a lot of big punches too, mostly not to the head but to the body. Canelo would get points for them, not Smith it seems.
It's w/e, I didn't have Smith winning but Kalle Sauerland is going to face a lot of criticism from British fans in a market he is trying to break into.
Didn't say AA should've won wide but I seriously fail to see how Smith "won". He did better than expected so that equates to a victory for some people. Smith took punishment in some of his best rounds even. He didn't win the fight, or quite get a draw.
I'm not even surprised anymore. The amount of gift decisions Abraham gets is astounding. I thought the was getting out-boxed by Sjekloca, next thing you know the fight is over Abraham wins by like 8 rounds on the scorecards. I thought the 3rd fight with Stieglitz was also a gift decision.
You have to stop this guy to beat him like Robert Stieglitz did. Otherwise he's going to keep getting his decisions go his way.
Smith won the fight imo.
Fat Dan sums it up:
Disgusting. No issue if you give Abraham fight by rd, even 2. By 11?????? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? Unreal. Shame. #boxing #AbrahamSmith— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) September 27, 2014
I***39;m so disgusted. I***39;m out. I need to contemplate my sport. #boxing #AbrahamSmith— Dan Rafael (@danrafaelespn) September 27, 2014
Dan doesn't actually do any sport, but I get what he means.