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You are talking about an Ortiz who has yet to defeat anyone at WW since he beat the exposed Berto in which Ortiz was knocked down twice!
You are talking about a Guerrero that has yet to defeat anyone notable at WW since he beat the exposed Berto. REmember that Aydin, his other WW opponent dropped back down to JWW and was not impressive there either.
Finally, Floyd beat Ortiz on a SUCKER PUNCH and was able to beat a slow flat-footed Guerrero ..... that was prime Floyd ..... cherry picking to me but you guys seem to get fooled even though they BOTH did the same crap at WW ..... beat 1 guy named Berto ........
The Ortiz that Floyd fought, and who beat Berto would obliterate the 40 yr old JMM who outboxed Pac in 2011. And he would be waaay too small for Ghost.
I remember Ghost beating Aadyn when no one else wanted to fight him. He walked through his punches.
And Ghost is not slow and flatfooted. He is a tall, long, pressure swarmer. His punches are too closed together for him to be called a combination puncher.
Floyd changed his entire fighting style and beat him without being touched. I would rather completely erase Bradley, and JMM from Pac's resume if I could put Ghost and Ortiz in their place. Pac carefully chose small powerless fighters in JMM and Bradley.
I have yet to see Pac beat a young strong guy who ca hurt him.
Stopped reading right there and I don't even like Bradley or JMM
Your biased your judgement is not worth trusting. Those itty bitty weak fighters cant beat any of Floyd's opponents. Floyd is fighting big, strong, awkward, all types of young strong guys.
Less than 24 hours before a Mayweather fight and the two biggest threads on the front page of NSB both are about Pacquiao
Pacquiao is the biggest name in boxing period and the proof is right here
Uh, yeah sure buddy. Actual PPV numbers have nothing to do with it.
Let floyd fight maidana twice and go to decision both times...let manny fight Maidana and KO him. That will say something. As usual.
Pac couldn't KO Rios, but you think he's going to KO Maidana?
Most would reply that Pacquiao is comfortable with Top Rank and is pleased with his paychecks. But very likely he is used to get those major cash advances from Arum.
Pac has been a politician first boxer 2nd mindset now for a few years. TopRank pays him well so why fix what isn't broken.
Unlike Floyd who is too busy either getting took by a woman or beating on women and getting thrown in jail, Pac went into the Politics game.
Oh btw get back to me when Floyd gets a Private Audience with Obama, I know Pac has gotten one already....
Its Ok Larry I know your gonna red K me....
Pac cheated his opponent on the scales, got his belt took and then got ktfo anyway didn't he?
Aren't Pac's last 5 opponents something like a combined 2-9 at welterweight? :rofl:
Wrong, as usual. Bradley is like 3-1 at WW and Marquez has a couple of wins there too.
OK now list who Manny's opponents lost to?
Now the funniest part about this is that YOU PICKED some of those "suspectable" opponents of Manny to beat Manny! :smashfrea
Floyd has NEVER come in overweight b4. Pac has been overweight 2x.
Pac cheated his opponent on the scales, got his belt took and then got ktfo anyway didn't he?
Aren't Pac's last 5 opponents something like a combined 2-9 at welterweight? :rofl:
Gurerro and Ortiz who faced Floyd, would beat the snot out of little bitty bradley and JMM. They were big and strong af. Ghost may be listed as a short man who moved up in weight but he is big as hell and Floyd had to fight him like Genero Hernandez. He dropped Berto with single shots and walked through his powershots showing his toughness at ww. Floyd had to change his whole style to beat him because he is a long armed swarmer. His punches are too closed together to do allot of inside fighting. Bradley would be too small and weak no matter how smart he is. And I think prime Ortiz would crush both of their skulls as well. Floyd fights big ass young guys when they are winning and making noise.
Bradley was a calculated risk. He was in his prime, but a small weak tactical little fighter.
If Floyd wouldnt have fought the guys he fought at the time he fought them, it would be a flatout duck. He fought them with no hesitation.
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You are talking about an Ortiz who has yet to defeat anyone at WW since he beat the exposed Berto in which Ortiz was knocked down twice!
You are talking about a Guerrero that has yet to defeat anyone notable at WW since he beat the exposed Berto. REmember that Aydin, his other WW opponent dropped back down to JWW and was not impressive there either.
Finally, Floyd beat Ortiz on a SUCKER PUNCH and was able to beat a slow flat-footed Guerrero ..... that was prime Floyd ..... cherry picking to me but you guys seem to get fooled even though they BOTH did the same crap at WW ..... beat 1 guy named Berto ........
Pacquaio isn't running around telling everyone he is the best ever and better than Ali and other nonsense.
Floyd put those expectations on himself. He has said he is the best of all time so that is the standard he is being held to. Manny has never said he was the greatest ever so he isn't being held to that standard.
When Floyd says he only fights the best despite not fighting any top P4P guys since 2012 he deserves the **** he gets.
Yeah, because he wasn't be held to a higher standard than Manny WAAYYYY before this TBE campaign started, right?
Just like Floyd won't fight anyone who is contracted to Top Rank, Pacquaio won't fight anyone who is represented by Al Haymon. What about that is difficult for you to understand? And asking Pacquiao to fight middleweights is absurd.
His fans take it up the bum... Garbage performances against semi pro competition ..
Why don't fans demand Pacquiao fight top WW's, Jr MW's, and MW's like they demand of Floyd?
pac is to ask his fans to vote who they want pac to fight next...
like Floyd did.......
and like Floyd, pac will not fight the guy the fans voted for...
so fans to demand on pac? ha ha ha
what a novel idea!?
Stopped reading right there and I don't even like Bradley or JMM
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On topic, I thought TR and Haymon fights couldn't get made till lately.
Hope he fights one now that Oscar is back in control.
Gurerro and Ortiz who faced Floyd, would beat the snot out of little bitty bradley and JMM. They were big and strong af. Ghost may be listed as a short man who moved up in weight but he is big as hell and Floyd had to fight him like Genero Hernandez. He dropped Berto with single shots and walked through his powershots showing his toughness at ww. Floyd had to change his whole style to beat him because he is a long armed swarmer. His punches are too closed together to do allot of inside fighting. Bradley would be too small and weak no matter how smart he is. And I think prime Ortiz would crush both of their skulls as well. Floyd fights big ass young guys when they are winning and making noise.
Bradley was a calculated risk. He was in his prime, but a small weak tactical little fighter.
If Floyd wouldnt have fought the guys he fought at the time he fought them, it would be a flatout duck. He fought them with no hesitation.
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