"Broke the contract"? He had the option to buy out. If Pac had done this and gone out to be where Floyd is now, you guys would be praising him for being a genius. Since it's Floyd, he ducked!
We both know what happened. Floyd went out of his way to avoid Margarito which was a guaranteed fight and it was NEXT! Arum told Margarito to patiently wait for FLoyd. So Margarito didn't take on another opponent until he heard the news that Floyd was going to fight ............. Baldomir!
You think that the way you are saying it (Floyd took a buy out option to avoid Margarito) makes it less of a duck? Look bud, Floyd ducked Margarito ........ Let it go!
What if C A T is spelled DOG? Mayweather didnt want none of them, he didnt want prime margo, prime cotto, prime pwill and pacquiao. He just returned after those guys destroyed each other. And fans are buying his "for me cotto never had a loss" like wtf. If you have balls and pride in you when a fighter whom you believe is lower than you and talks to you like that in person, you wouldnt allow it, you would do something about it. Please post that vid again so we can laugh at maywethers face when margarito talked to him. He even was looking for margo after margo left so he could answer the interviewers questions right. Hes going to say "yes i will fight him" but make sures margarito wasnt around already. Like LOL. TBE is one great joke. I used to be a big fan. Business is now the new excuse. And they like to brag around and say "so what i have money" all his fans were contaminated already. So what im a rich coward hahahahaha. I was a fan until the ali-norton comment.
nobody fought prime paul Williams. not Floyd, not manny, not mosley, not cotto. so if Floyd ducked paul Williams, so did mosley,pacquiao,and cotto
When will Fl0mos quit repeating this BS.
You hear any BS that comes out of Floyd's mouth and run with it.
Cotto had not fought above Welterweight and weighed in at 146 against Clottey prior to that fight, where he was strong enough to knock Clottey down with a jab.
Oscar was drained I'll give you that but Cotto being drained is a myth.
I am not repeating anything. I am trying not to go all out and say Cotto was drained. I don't think Cotto was drained, BUT, they KNEW that he wasn't the same fighter after Margarito and tried to weaken him a much as they could be making him go to 145. Canelo came in at 153 his previous fight, but you guys wanna say that he was drained for Floyd, so which is it? The difference is, the very next fight, Cotto moved up to 154, so what does that tell u?
Knocking down Clottey doesn't mean he was very strong. It you look at that knockdown, it was ALL about timing.
Where was pacquiao when margarito was relevant? Yes he was at 130 you askholl, pac requested for that fight right after DLH Fight. Where was floyd? He had a fake retirement. They wanted a fair weight thats why catchweights are made and agreed upon. It has done before and it is done until now, atleast pacquiao is not being a hyprocrite and says "we dont do catch weights" then there you go, canelo-floyd at 152. Pwill and martinez who are both at 160 are calling out pac, what does that make them?? Mayweather does these fk all to himself so dont blame me if people looked him that way. Im always a fan of what he can do, but i wont defend him with his BS, like im not even defending pac for choosing algieri.
At what weight was Pac coming into the ring at when he was at 130/135? At welterweight thank you! Pac moved up and I believe it was after the ODH fight, Margarito wanted to fight him. The response from Pac's team was "were not crazy". Sounds like an absolute duck to me, yet I don't hear you talking about that. Only Floyd, who moved on to fight for the Lineal title and then fight ODH and never worked with Arum again. Fake retirement? The guy had been at the top of boxing since the friggen a decade and was hurting is hands ever fight? God forbid he rest his body right? How do you know what the guy was thinking at the time? But it fits your agenda to say he did it to duck the division, even though he would be the clear favorite against ANYONE at WW.
You will defend almost anything that Pac does. A catchweight with Cotto was not fair. Again, Pac had been coming into the ring as a WW for YEARS! Not to mention, they already knew that Cotto was not the same fighter he was b4 Margarito, as Roach said MANY times before the fight. He basically admitted they wanted the fight because of that very reason. Yet they added in a catchweight anyway to weaken him even more. Then when they have the opportunity to fight him at a weight where he would be comfortable, what did they do? RUN the other way! While Floyd "the coward" at least had the balls to fight him at full 154. So what does that make Pac? Floyd fighting Canelo at 152 was a retarded decision. I've never defended that and never will. Sorry, but Pwill called Pac out b4 he got to 160 and not to mention, he always said he could move back down to 147. So now, if Floyd ducked him, didn't Pac as well? Funny when it was Martinez calling Floyd out, everyone yelled he was ducking. You are not defending Pac for Algeri, but you also aren't calling him a coward for CLEAR ducks like relevant Mosley, Margarito, Pwill, Cotto at 152 & Floyd in 2009(stop denying it, Roach already admitted it) either.
That is not entirely true ..... Floyd actually broke the contract and paid off Arum not to fight Margarito! :lol1: Then he fights ............... Baldomir.
"Broke the contract"? He had the option to buy out. If Pac had done this and gone out to be where Floyd is now, you guys would be praising him for being a genius. Since it's Floyd, he ducked!
You do realize that Pac wanted nothing to do with Margarito when he was relevant dont you? Or that Pwill was calling Pac out as well? Or that Pac wanted NOTHING to do with Cotto at a comfortable weight? How about the fact that Roach himself said that PAC's TEAM blew the chance for him to fight a "prime pac". Just say anything to make Mayweather look bad whether its true or not, right?
Where was pacquiao when margarito was relevant? Yes he was at 130 you askholl, pac requested for that fight right after DLH Fight. Where was floyd? He had a fake retirement. They wanted a fair weight thats why catchweights are made and agreed upon. It has done before and it is done until now, atleast pacquiao is not being a hyprocrite and says "we dont do catch weights" then there you go, canelo-floyd at 152. Pwill and martinez who are both at 160 are calling out pac, what does that make them?? Mayweather does these fk all to himself so dont blame me if people looked him that way. Im always a fan of what he can do, but i wont defend him with his BS, like im not even defending pac for choosing algieri.
What was going on at this time with Floyd? Was he not at the end of his contract? You can't figure out what this was about? Floyd wanted to secure big paychecks and big fights to resign with Arum. Arum didn't want to pay, so he moved on and did his own thing....which turned out to easily be the best decision he could've made.
That is not entirely true ..... Floyd actually broke the contract and paid off Arum not to fight Margarito! :lol1: Then he fights ............... Baldomir.
How would you know what NSB is like? All you ever do is comment on Mayweather or Pacquiao threads, or those which indirectly mention or relate to them.
Your boxing scope is ridiculously limited
I read a lot and like slapping idiots , seems Floyds haters are where the most idiots are fancy that .
What if C A T is spelled DOG? Mayweather didnt want none of them, he didnt want prime margo, prime cotto, prime pwill and pacquiao. He just returned after those guys destroyed each other. And fans are buying his "for me cotto never had a loss" like wtf. If you have balls and pride in you when a fighter whom you believe is lower than you and talks to you like that in person, you wouldnt allow it, you would do something about it. Please post that vid again so we can laugh at maywethers face when margarito talked to him. He even was looking for margo after margo left so he could answer the interviewers questions right. Hes going to say "yes i will fight him" but make sures margarito wasnt around already. Like LOL. TBE is one great joke. I used to be a big fan. Business is now the new excuse. And they like to brag around and say "so what i have money" all his fans were contaminated already. So what im a rich coward hahahahaha. I was a fan until the ali-norton comment.
You do realize that Pac wanted nothing to do with Margarito when he was relevant dont you? Or that Pwill was calling Pac out as well? Or that Pac wanted NOTHING to do with Cotto at a comfortable weight? How about the fact that Roach himself said that PAC's TEAM blew the chance for him to fight a "prime pac". Just say anything to make Mayweather look bad whether its true or not, right?
What if C A T is spelled DOG? Mayweather didnt want none of them, he didnt want prime margo, prime cotto, prime pwill and pacquiao. He just returned after those guys destroyed each other. And fans are buying his "for me cotto never had a loss" like wtf. If you have balls and pride in you when a fighter whom you believe is lower than you and talks to you like that in person, you wouldnt allow it, you would do something about it. Please post that vid again so we can laugh at maywethers face when margarito talked to him. He even was looking for margo after margo left so he could answer the interviewers questions right. Hes going to say "yes i will fight him" but make sures margarito wasnt around already. Like LOL. TBE is one great joke. I used to be a big fan. Business is now the new excuse. And they like to brag around and say "so what i have money" all his fans were contaminated already. So what im a rich coward hahahahaha. I was a fan until the ali-norton comment.
Another WHAT IF thread for the children , as a boxing forum this site is over run with children .
How would you know what NSB is like? All you ever do is comment on Mayweather or Pacquiao threads, or those which indirectly mention or relate to them.
Your boxing scope is ridiculously limited
Floyd would likely win if he moved, but if he got pinned, he would get hurt badly.
Even Pacquiao got hurt my Margarito because the dude hits hard even without plaster
Manny out boxed him but Floyd cant , the Margarito that fought Manny would be a total shutout for Floyd , it was not the same as the pre Mosley fight version , this one sat in Mexico for 2 years after coming of a devasting ko loss and banned from boxing for cheating , he packed on the weight and had a single fight at 154 against a bum , next thing Arum is buying him a licence to box in Texas because the Commission refused his license .
The rest is history , huge over size ring 8oz gloves ordered by Manny so he could chop him up and a 150 CW , and diuretics was found in his dressing room .
All easily proven if you go look for it , the fanboys in here are hype swallower's that dont know enough about the game to know when they are being taken for a ride ,,,, its unreal to watch it in here , didnt realize how gullible the masses really are .
All that article proves is that Floyd was NOT interested in fighting Margarito.
Floyd likes to concentrate on his next opponent and not even discuss who is next. Even if it's to discuss a fight that had the potential to bring him triple the amount that Hatton, Cotto and Oscar would have given him. Think about that one
Canelo will accept fighting on Floyd's undercard with one condition.
"Richard Schaefer said. "Floyd told us he didn't have a problem fighting Canelo, but he wasn't going to sign anything now. He said, 'All of my focus is on Guerrero,' and I'm not signing anything to fight anybody until after my upcoming fight is over."
Every time there is even a hint about even possibly negotiating with Manny Floyd comes back with "I'm not negotiating anything to fight anybody until after my upcoming fight is over."
Yet with Margarito, his upcoming 3 fights had to be finalized ...... win, lose or draw on the preceding fights. Imagine FLoyd lost to Margarito, you think that Floyd's stock goes up or down? Yet you expect Arum or anyone to hike up his guarantee?
Finally, EVERYONE agrees that Margarito and Cotto were guaranteed fights because Arum likes to fight within his stable. Right? With wins, everything after that would have fall in place.
What was going on at this time with Floyd? Was he not at the end of his contract? You can't figure out what this was about? Floyd wanted to secure big paychecks and big fights to resign with Arum. Arum didn't want to pay, so he moved on and did his own thing....which turned out to easily be the best decision he could've made.
Floyd would likely win if he moved, but if he got pinned, he would get hurt badly.
Even Pacquiao got hurt my Margarito because the dude hits hard even without plaster
You make it seem like it's so difficult to hurt Pacquiao compared to Floyd. Pac has been Ko'd 3 times and almost Ko'd with a jab. Floyd is as good at taking shots as Mosley and what was Margarito able to do against Shane? Nada!
Lol if you actually think Margarito would have presented any kind of trouble for prime Floyd. He was tailor made with his slow plodding forward and slow punches. It's all about the $$$. Every fight that Floyd didn't take has been about the $$$. If you still haven't realized that, then sucks to be you...:boxing:
he made a thread at 1:35pm...you replied with a news article at 1:36pm...you have that sh1t saved on your computer :nonono:
hahahaha Maka you truly made me lol :boxing::boxing: Larryx Man love for Floyd is unmatched!
blame Arum...from Arums own mouth
Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don***8217;t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn***8217;t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn***8217;t interested in participating in. ***8220;That***8217;s not in the cards,***8221; Arum said. ***8220;He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It***8217;s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ***8216;em and when to fold ***8216;em. We***8217;ll talk about things down the road.***8221; Notice this part Arum was talking.
Read more at http://www.************.com/2010/12/mayweather-didnt-duck-margarito-or-cotto/#mkZUlyTFQoh0JVHm.99
All that article proves is that Floyd was NOT interested in fighting Margarito.
Floyd likes to concentrate on his next opponent and not even discuss who is next. Even if it's to discuss a fight that had the potential to bring him triple the amount that Hatton, Cotto and Oscar would have given him. Think about that one
Canelo will accept fighting on Floyd's undercard with one condition.
"Richard Schaefer said. "Floyd told us he didn't have a problem fighting Canelo, but he wasn't going to sign anything now. He said, 'All of my focus is on Guerrero,' and I'm not signing anything to fight anybody until after my upcoming fight is over."
Every time there is even a hint about even possibly negotiating with Manny Floyd comes back with "I'm not negotiating anything to fight anybody until after my upcoming fight is over."
Yet with Margarito, his upcoming 3 fights had to be finalized ...... win, lose or draw on the preceding fights. Imagine FLoyd lost to Margarito, you think that Floyd's stock goes up or down? Yet you expect Arum or anyone to hike up his guarantee?
Finally, EVERYONE agrees that Margarito and Cotto were guaranteed fights because Arum likes to fight within his stable. Right? With wins, everything after that would have fall in place.
Floyd told Margs "you'll get your shot" like10x he understood perfectly he just didn't wanna fight him. I think Floyd would have won that being said I just think it tarnishes his legacy because he always avoided prime dangerous fighters. In order to be "TBE "you can't avoid those kind of fights.
He also to Margarito to keep winning fights but he couldn't do that. Could he?