You have to bear in mind that manny was coming off a devastating knock out at the hands of Marquez.. Everyone deserves a tune up after getting put to sleep
I dont mind that aspect but to pump Rios up as Manny fanboys do is BS , it is what it is and Manny gets a pass for everything he does even when he is surrounded by so much shonky business , why is he fighting Algieri another JWW thats never fought as a WW , its another BS fight is what it is .
You have to bear in mind that manny was coming off a devastating knock out at the hands of Marquez.. Everyone deserves a tune up after getting put to sleep
Erik Morales went 12 full rounds of brutal action with Barrera. Did he get a tune up after? no. He went after Manny Pacquiao and defeated him.
But Rios never had the WW credentials or the form that Ortiz or Guerrero had at the time , Rios was a BS fight , Manny portrays as a WW yet avoids them like the plague , simply because good WWs will beat him .
You have to bear in mind that manny was coming off a devastating knock out at the hands of Marquez.. Everyone deserves a tune up after getting put to sleep
You're confusing me with someone who likes pacquiao, I can not stand pac and roachs bull**** either. However, despite rios not being a champion I still think he's as good an opponent as Guerrero or Ortiz.
But Rios never had the WW credentials or the form that Ortiz or Guerrero had at the time , Rios was a BS fight , Manny portrays as a WW yet avoids them like the plague , simply because good WWs will beat him .
You're confusing me with someone who likes pacquiao, I can not stand pac and roachs bull**** either. However, despite rios not being a champion I still think he's as good an opponent as Guerrero or Ortiz.
I didn't say you are a pac fan boy. I just listed facts, and i'm sorry but brandon rios is no where near what Victor Ortiz was when he fought Floyd. Victor was coming off a win against undefeated WBC welterweight champion Andre Berto. I know both fighters are sht now but they where top 5 ranked WW's champions back then. The Ghost was a mandatory for Floyd, it wasn't the best matchup i know but i can understand it since Floyd was coming off a hard fight with Cotto.
Then how come 3 out of Manny's last 4 opponents where not welterweight champions? Rios was not even top 10 light welterweight, Marquez didn't have a belt and chris algieri has never fought at 147.
You could make an argurment that Pac's last 4 opponents where not welterweight champions since Bradley clearly won a robbery decision.
Ooooh wait what is this? maybe Pacquiao is not the beast they say he is? why isn't he fighting legit welterweight champions? why is he fighting feather fisted fighters with 12 ko's? why is he making light welterweights come up to 147?
You're confusing me with someone who likes pacquiao, I can not stand pac and roachs bull**** either. However, despite rios not being a champion I still think he's as good an opponent as Guerrero or Ortiz.
I was thinking the same thing. Four guys out of the division are "champions". Not that hard to rack up wins against some guy ranked tenth with a belt.
Then how come 3 out of Manny's last 4 opponents where not welterweight champions? Rios was not even top 10 light welterweight, Marquez didn't have a belt and chris algieri has never fought at 147.
You could make an argurment that Pac's last 4 opponents where not welterweight champions since Bradley clearly won a robbery decision.
Ooooh wait what is this? maybe Pacquiao is not the beast they say he is? why isn't he fighting legit welterweight champions? why is he fighting feather fisted fighters with 12 ko's? why is he making light welterweights come up to 147?
Everyone's a 'world champion' nowadays...
I was thinking the same thing. Four guys out of the division are "champions". Not that hard to rack up wins against some guy ranked tenth with a belt.
Pacquiao beat Morales in the rematches, and if you say he is washed up and drained, well that even more washed up and older Morales outboxed Maidana with one eye shot and even rocked him a nd put on a better boxing show than Floyd did against Maidana.
So you are basically saying Pacqiuao versus Algieri is a good fight, since Chris is 6 foot tall and a technical boxer and mover?
IF y ou say its a **** fight you just hating, cause you just said Pac has trouble with technical boxers well he is fighting one who is not only a technical stick a nd move guy but is tall and long with a size advantage over him.
It's a sh1t fight. But hey it's your ppv money :bottle:
And you praise Floyds fights with all tailormade guys? show me Floyd against someone like Bradley?
Triangle theories dont work JMM has a completely different style of boxing and countering than Floyd.
Floyd beats up Guerrero, drained Canelo, Ortiz, and struggles with a slow flat foot tailormade Maidana and a blown up shot bloated washed up Cotto that Pacman destroyed and you praise him?
Stop being a dam hypocrite Floyd fights nothing but flat foot guys that he can grab yet you praise him.
I want to see him in against someone who can actually move and give angles and have stamina.
:sleeping: ... No one fights more world champions then Floyd...
Put down the crack pipe old man.
Cotto was not drained that's Floyd bumsniffing nonsense, Hatton's coke habit started after the Pacquiao decimation and Oscar was the big favourite and was widely perceived to be cherrypicking a small Pac before the fight, don't blame Pac he didn't push for the fight.
And Mayweather has been facing flatfooted fighters with garbage stamina his whole career.
Canelo = Drained, flat footed, crap stamina
Robert Guerrero = Simply not that good, especially at Welterweight
Cotto= Got destroyed by Pacman and gave your guy a run for his money
Maidana = Lost by an inch, this is the same guy who almost lost to a drained shot to pieces old man in Morales and got shut out by Alexander.
Manny's resume craps all over Floyd's.
The more you flap the more you expose how little you know about boxing , stick to your hype kid your bubble is full of it , things like Oscar needing IV fluid infusions to gain 2 pounds in 30 hrs only to be outweighed by Manny on the night , ah that has no effect in a WT fight aint that right it kid .
Fanboys are just so boxing ignorant all you know is hype .
Floyd avoided the fight at that time for 2 reasons.
1. He wouldn't have a shot at getting a decision with Pac's activity. His pot shots would not have made up for the sheer volume that Pacquiao would have thrown at him.
2. If the fight was close Pacquiao had the juice to get a decision against Floyd.
Man that was one of the best runs of brutality, just pure offensive excitement and dominance.
Pacman was throwing blows and just throwing them with so many arm punch flurries followed by hard left hands.
We will never see that type of Pac again age catches up with all of us, and no fighter fights like that in their mid 30s, thats a young mans style. Pac will have to box like B hop and Floyd by picking his shots.
Bet you feel the same watching Batmam and Robin , its all WOW , fanboys are so delusional inside their bubble .
Just like a Champion racehorse that get doped in the stall and runs like a hack , only in boxing its drain them and use PEDs then they are the hack and you are superman .
Funny how that stretch didn't include a fight with Marquez. Whenever he faces a technical boxer, he has fits: Marquez, Morales, :boxing:
Pacquiao beat Morales in the rematches, and if you say he is washed up and drained, well that even more washed up and older Morales outboxed Maidana with one eye shot and even rocked him a nd put on a better boxing show than Floyd did against Maidana.
So you are basically saying Pacqiuao versus Algieri is a good fight, since Chris is 6 foot tall and a technical boxer and mover?
IF y ou say its a **** fight you just hating, cause you just said Pac has trouble with technical boxers well he is fighting one who is not only a technical stick a nd move guy but is tall and long with a size advantage over him.
Inhuman when facing anyone except a technical boxer right? Do me a favour and watch Pacquiao Marquez II that happened in the year before he fought Cotto and tell me if Pacquiao still looks unbeatable. Styles make fights :twak:
And you praise Floyds fights with all tailormade guys? show me Floyd against someone like Bradley?
Triangle theories dont work JMM has a completely different style of boxing and countering than Floyd.
Floyd beats up Guerrero, drained Canelo, Ortiz, and struggles with a slow flat foot tailormade Maidana and a blown up shot bloated washed up Cotto that Pacman destroyed and you praise him?
Stop being a dam hypocrite Floyd fights nothing but flat foot guys that he can grab yet you praise him.
I want to see him in against someone who can actually move and give angles and have stamina.
If you watched the four fight stretch from David Diaz-oscar-hatton-cotto,,, one could swear that manny was the greatest fighter ever.. Absolute machine at his peak
Man that was one of the best runs of brutality, just pure offensive excitement and dominance.
Pacman was throwing blows and just throwing them with so many arm punch flurries followed by hard left hands.
We will never see that type of Pac again age catches up with all of us, and no fighter fights like that in their mid 30s, thats a young mans style. Pac will have to box like B hop and Floyd by picking his shots.
If you watched the four fight stretch from David Diaz-oscar-hatton-cotto,,, one could swear that manny was the greatest fighter ever.. Absolute machine at his peak
Every one was questionable , Manny cannot perform like this when in with a non drained fighter , non over the hill fighters like Hatton and Diaz , not one was a legit win every opponent had issues .
Now reference them against all that has happened since , such as his KO loss , fighters saying he dont hit hard , Rios , and now another JWW , it stands out like dog balls he was on something or they were that screwded up going in , we know Oscar was dead man walking , Cotto said he was drained and Manny wont fight him without a CW , Hatton had a raging coke habit and Diaz was done and a average champ .
Made to order .
If you watched the four fight stretch from David Diaz-oscar-hatton-cotto,,, one could swear that manny was the greatest fighter ever.. Absolute machine at his peak
Funny how that stretch didn't include a fight with Marquez. Whenever he faces a technical boxer, he has fits: Marquez, Morales, :boxing:
Inhuman when facing anyone except a technical boxer right? Do me a favour and watch Pacquiao Marquez II that happened in the year before he fought Cotto and tell me if Pacquiao still looks unbeatable. Styles make fights :twak:
If you watched the four fight stretch from David Diaz-oscar-hatton-cotto,,, one could swear that manny was the greatest fighter ever.. Absolute machine at his peak