Froch fight was at 168
And pascal got knocked down twice vs Hopkins in second fight. Ref didn't call them. Commentators thought they were legit knockdowns.
Kovalev tries to put all his power into those shots when he's swinging away. That's why he's off balance so much.
What's your point? Did Pascal not weight 168 on fight night?
And whether Hopkins knocked Pascal down or not doesn't matter. He never came close to really hurting him.
Kovalev hurts everyone he hits and has shown his power against better fighters.
GGG is said to have toyed with Kovalev in sparring but as far as what I see at the moment, Kovalev has more one shot power.
I'm convinced that P4P Kovalev is boxings biggest puncher. He almost stopped the unstoppable Hopkins and did stop Pascal, who had never been knocked down and with hundreds of flush shots, Froch could not even hurt.
Froch fight was at 168
And pascal got knocked down twice vs Hopkins in second fight. Ref didn't call them. Commentators thought they were legit knockdowns.
Kovalev tries to put all his power into those shots when he's swinging away. That's why he's off balance so much.
I'm convinced that P4P Kovalev is boxings biggest puncher. He almost stopped the unstoppable Hopkins and did stop Pascal, who had never been knocked down and with hundreds of flush shots, Froch could not even hurt.
GGG is the heavier puncher, he is also more precise and his Methodology & Techniques are all about stopping the opponent from going the distance.
Koval does the same but he doesn't have the balance and distance down yet.
He's getting there but GGG is more advanced for now.
Wilder will be evaluated when he begins to step up, he had a good win last time out. Showed some skills moving his head and basicly showed good focus too.
He's still a work in progress but he'll get his chances pretty soon.
Ray.
kovalev has never fought an iron chinned 20lb heavier opponent, he has faced some scrubs that he has let go the distance thoough, although i doubt anything as sht as wilder, still think wilder hits harder
Meh, P4P, Kovalev ranks the highest in my mind.
Doesn't mean much.
If Wilder wound up on you and connected, 99.9% of this board would be waking up in the ICU slurping Jello through a straw.
unless youre charlie "best chin on the planet" zelenoff. wilder's power is overrated dude. he hits hard for sure but he isnt even the hardest puncher in his division imo. all his kayo wins have been against soft touches and none of them were known to be even semi durable
take that fraud Wilder out of there
he threw the whole kitchen sink at a sick, walking punching in Stiverne and couldn't stop him
first time Wilder has to KO someone who isn't a random bum from the alley and fails miserably.
lets not forget Stiverne was stopped by a random nobody called Demetrice King, yet Windmiller couldn't do it
Wilder's KO % was a fraud, part of his padded record and fake ranking
Wladimir hits much harder than Wilder
I agree. wilder has good power bit he hasnt knocked out anyone known to be durable or even semi durable. ggg and kovalev clearly have more power lb4lb and have knocked out tougher opponents than wilder
take that fraud Wilder out of there
he threw the whole kitchen sink at a sick, walking punching in Stiverne and couldn't stop him
first time Wilder has to KO someone who isn't a random bum from the alley and fails miserably.
lets not forget Stiverne was stopped by a random nobody called Demetrice King, yet Windmiller couldn't do it
Wilder's KO % was a fraud, part of his padded record and fake ranking
Wladimir hits much harder than Wilder
wilder is definitely number one, i think kovalev has more explosive one punch KO power than GGG but GGG is more heavy handed. GGG has the heaviest hands in boxing imo, he is also the best fighter out of the three by far.
So was the fix in?
I'm trying to pinpoint when Stiverne actually decided to take a 12 round dive.
It's whatever.
Wilder hits harder then Kovalev.
But since it's P4P, Kovalev takes this.
Can we keep it simple for once?
Of course not.
Not sure where you got dive from. Didn't say Stiverne was enjoying it, just that he couldn't knock him out despite hitting him pretty much at will.
Kovalev scares me through the tv lol
Yeah no doubt. Kovalev has absolutely frightening power. I find myself cringing for his opponents a lot of the time...and I rarely (if ever) do that while watching any other fighters.
He's a scary motherf**ker. And how about his quote after the Pascal fight, where he said that he was disappointed that the ref stopped it because he was hoping to put Pascal into a "deep, deep sleep".
Yikes.
If Kovalev was allowed to tee off on Stiverne like that he would have stopped him. Not in a "p4p" fantasy either... In real life.
(Not that he would have been able to keep Stiverne at that range in real life due to the size disparity, but we are talking about punching power)
So was the fix in?
I'm trying to pinpoint when Stiverne actually decided to take a 12 round dive.
It's whatever.
Wilder hits harder then Kovalev.
But since it's P4P, Kovalev takes this.
Can we keep it simple for once?
Of course not.
Kov and GGG obviously have exceptional power, but Wilder is on another level. There's reallyno legitimate argument against that. He doesn't break guys down with combos, he touches them and they melt. If he learned how to box he'd be a world beater.
If Kovalev was allowed to tee off on Stiverne like that he would have stopped him. Not in a "p4p" fantasy either... In real life.
(Not that he would have been able to keep Stiverne at that range in real life due to the size disparity, but we are talking about punching power)
Are you putting Zelenoff above us Sweet Pea? :)
I'm still not sure how to rank them, Stiverne might just have been unusually durable. Need to see Wilder against more top heavies.
Between GGG and Kovalev, I think Kovalev hits harder PFP but people's perceptions change by the fight.
:lol1:
All I am saying is, if Wilder landed on one of us Joe Schmoes on here...
https://38.media.tumblr.com/35f1a6783d052ef4dd8420f75609070a/tumblr_mrhz7eS4at1rbzmago1_500.gif
I'm taking this as what it is, a P4P deal.
Kovalev
GGG
Wilder
Meh, P4P, Kovalev ranks the highest in my mind.
Doesn't mean much.
If Wilder wound up on you and connected, 99.9% of this board would be waking up in the ICU slurping Jello through a straw.
Are you putting Zelenoff above us Sweet Pea? :)
I'm still not sure how to rank them, Stiverne might just have been unusually durable. Need to see Wilder against more top heavies.
Between GGG and Kovalev, I think Kovalev hits harder PFP but people's perceptions change by the fight.
Kovalev scares me through the tv lol watching his last 2 fights were brutal everytime he landed and whenever his opponent lands a good punch he lands 3 more
Meh, P4P, Kovalev ranks the highest in my mind.
Doesn't mean much.
If Wilder wound up on you and connected, 99.9% of this board would be waking up in the ICU slurping Jello through a straw.