New Era of Boxing: Become a Champion Without Beating One

No, Matthysse was the one that didn't want his belt on the line. That way even if he lost to Lamont Peterson he would still be Danny Garcia's mandatory. It's very interesting that people want to put the blame on Peterson instead. http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9280981/why-no-belts-lamont-peterson-lucas-matthysse-fight I stand corrected, thanks for the link.

Boxing is a business doe. Belt don't really matter. It's just a bargaining chip. Did I do it right?

That was after he signed with Haymon as well, makes NO sense. Must have been the price of getting the fight, to reassure Peterson that if he loses he is still guaranteed some more big fights. Nobody talks about this though. No, Matthysse was the one that didn't want his belt on the line. That way even if he lost to Lamont Peterson he would still be Danny Garcia's mandatory. It's very interesting that people want to put the blame on Peterson instead. http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/9280981/why-no-belts-lamont-peterson-lucas-matthysse-fight

What makes me sick is the treatment of fighters like Matthysse. He brutally knocked out Peterson but the later was able to keep his strap because they fought at 141lb. A belt now is a glorified bargaining chip and means to squeeze other promotional companies out of a division. That was after he signed with Haymon as well, makes NO sense. Must have been the price of getting the fight, to reassure Peterson that if he loses he is still guaranteed some more big fights. Nobody talks about this though.

What makes me sick is the treatment of fighters like Matthysse. He brutally knocked out Peterson but the later was able to keep his strap because they fought at 141lb. A belt now is a glorified bargaining chip and means to squeeze other promotional companies out of a division.

Both Garcia & Peterson leaving too 147 so Broner will get his belt

Are people fans of fighters or promoters? I have always struggled with the idea of how people can be a fan of boxing promoters or managers.

Very soon these same "boxing fans" will claim Haymon invented catch weights and he's the reason there's so many titles. Envy can be an ugly thing

Having multiple "world champions" in each division has been a problem long before Al Haymon came along. We need to go back to having only one champion per weight class. That way no one can can claim they are a titlist unless they actually earned it. Unfortunately that will never happen. The sanctioning bodies need to work together and be more strict with unifications.

Why do you assume someone who criticizes a Haymon fighter is a Golovkin fan? Again with the false equivalencies. I want Golovkin to fight Ward, and in Larrys thread I said right now I would prefer Golovkin to go fight Froch in England.

More concerned about bank accounts than legacies? Do you mean like when team Golovkin says that fighting Andre Ward makes no financial sense? interesting.........

Certain fans seem to be more concerned with their favorite fighters bank accounts (Haymon would make sure they got a fair deal if they were to fight) then their legacies. More concerned about bank accounts than legacies? Do you mean like when team Golovkin says that fighting Andre Ward makes no financial sense?

I agree. But be consistent with your criticism. Just because you like a fighter you don't have to justify everything he does. And just because you dislike a fighter doesn't mean you have to belittle all of his achievements.

He said 8 figures larry, lets be real. That is bigger than Cotto numbers. Broner could never hope to get those kinds of numbers. How many fights ever there ever been where both fighters have commanded 8 figure paydays? Canelo barely made it half-way to 8 figures vs floyd. Cotto didn't even make it to 8 figures vs Floyd. I can't actually think of a fight where both fighters made 8 figure paydays off the top of my head. So Broner says he will fight Garcia when they will both get 8 figure paydays. That is basically like him saying that he will fight Garcia when they find out where Elvis has been hiding all of these years. Because it will never happen. Truth. When exactly is the money "right"? Quillin must think hes worth 8 figures to fight GGG. The way to huge paydays is not vs the Salkas of the world. You take on a supposed high risk fight and win it, your stock goes up. If Broner truly believed he could beat Danny he should fight him and raise his profile a notch higher. It shows a real lack of belief in your skills when your asked about fighting a guy and your first answer is "boxing is a business". Certain fans seem to be more concerned with their favorite fighters bank accounts (Haymon would make sure they got a fair deal if they were to fight) then their legacies.

He did not say he would not fight them..he said if the money is right then make it happen He said 8 figures larry, lets be real. That is bigger than Cotto numbers. Broner could never hope to get those kinds of numbers. How many fights ever there ever been where both fighters have commanded 8 figure paydays? Canelo barely made it half-way to 8 figures vs floyd. Cotto didn't even make it to 8 figures vs Floyd. I can't actually think of a fight where both fighters made 8 figure paydays off the top of my head. So Broner says he will fight Garcia when they will both get 8 figure paydays. That is basically like him saying that he will fight Garcia when they find out where Elvis has been hiding all of these years. Because it will never happen.

Having multiple "world champions" in each division has been a problem long before Al Haymon came along. We need to go back to having only one champion per weight class. That way no one can can claim they are a titlist unless they actually earned it.

Boycott People should just stop buying PPV fights and try to stream it live somewhere, this would force the promoters and managers to make good fights for the fans, I think they should also have unified belts at every weight division and everybody should fight for this 1 belt, this would result in great fights at the top level. They try to justify making ****ty fights by saying that the fighters who only fight the best don't have a long career. IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER how long your career goes or how long you stay undefeated, there are too many people looking for a shot and a great fighter can be replaced fast. so even if the top guys lose, the guys who beat them will become the main attraction and then there will come somebody else that will beat them, and so on and so forth, one fighter dominating a the sport or even a weight division for more than 5 years is bull**** and it's not good for the sport!

Thank Al Haymo for that! He buys already made champs and exploits their titles and the sanctioning bodies don't care cause they're getting their more fees! Get rid of the scumbag Al Haymon!

this is a far, far cry from what you expressed in the 1st post. Wanting to see Broner earn a championship by fighting the top guys at 140 is different from wanting to see the best fight the best? I even posted in Larryxxx thread saying I did not like the Golovkin-Rubio fight. Broner and Stafford interviews were just posted this morning, and are the latest example of an ongoing trend. Broner said he wanted a belt, then said he did not want to fight Garcia (because he would have to fight him 5 times) or Peterson (no real reason). I do not see how anyone can disagree with this, unless they themselves have an agenda. Pac and Roach's nonsense made me sick too, especially the comments he made about having to drain Mosley more since he was a good fighter. Bottom line: boxing needs to be cleaned up, and it is irrefutable that Haymon, amongst others, is playing a role.

Just a boxing fan who wants to see the best fight the best. this is a far, far cry from what you expressed in the 1st post.