What does your top 10 HW all time look like?

So if you go by record than I guess Deontay Wilder is the best Sanders would of knock out McCall and Rahman So Sanders would KO a guy who has never been stopped and another one who knocked him the f*ck out? :rofl:

So if you go by record than I guess Deontay Wilder is the best Sanders would of knock out McCall and Rahman I don't go much into that. But that guy does. However, I am definitely willing to match up McCall's and Rahman's resume before and after Lennox to Sanders, Purrity and Brewster's before and after Wladimir. Also Rahman actually beat Sanders of course :lol1: Infact, combined between the three of them, the best win is 2005 Golota. There's no top 10 wins or even notable names ffs. Rahman and McCall have the likes of Larry Holmes, Jesse Ferguson, Akinwande, Maskaev, Bruce Seldon, Corrie Sanders, Monte Barrett etc. There's simply no comparison. McCall and Rahman were heaps better than those three who Klitschko got smashed by.

So if you go by record than I guess Deontay Wilder is the best Sanders would of knock out McCall and Rahman Sanders was Kod by Rahman dude. 1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Lennox Lewis 4. Rocky Marciano 5. George Foreman 6. Jack Johnson 7. Mike Tyson 8. Jack Dempsey 9. Evander Holyfield 10. Wladimir Klinchsko

Rahman and McCall had a combined record of 58-7, or 29-3,5 per fighter both were in the top 10 of the world at the time of the fight. As opposed to Purrity, Brewster and Sanders with a combined ratio of 95-18 or 32-6 per fighter. none were ranked in the top 10 at the time of the fight. :lol1: So if you go by record than I guess Deontay Wilder is the best Sanders would of knock out McCall and Rahman

greatness is not only judged on what goes on inside the squared circle. e.g. Muhammad Ali as a humanitarian, a leader, a pioneer, an innovator charisma, elevating the popularity of boxing. Ali's contribution outside the ring has elevated his status. To some Ali is a racist, a rebel, a criminal, arrogant, wife-cheater whatever. One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Not to defend Sugar Ray, who as far as I know, probably wasn't the best husband or father. But Bernard Hopkins is a convicted felon as well, isn't he?

Yeah that elevates his status as a boxer, that's for sure. greatness is not only judged on what goes on inside the squared circle. e.g. Muhammad Ali as a humanitarian, a leader, a pioneer, an innovator charisma, elevating the popularity of boxing. Ali's contribution outside the ring has elevated his status.

I'm not sure there is a number one talent in the heavy division because the greats are capable of beating each other! Here's my list and the order has to do with Methods & Techniques employed! 1. J. Louis 2. M. Ali 3. L. Holmes 4. J. Johnson 5. G. Foreman 6. J. Dempsey 7. L. Lewis 8. R. Marciano 9. S. Liston 10. R. Bowe I believe Ali is the most difficult to defeat. He has his own style that no heavyweight ever employed and at his best his use of lateral movement for offense and defense has never been duplicated. He had the best eye/hand coordination and his foot work was a huge part of his defense & offense. No one used their legs the way Ali could. All of these men could and would defeat one another because they all were great forces within the sport. Ray Corso

i wouldnt argue with hopkins being number 1 to be honest, at least he didnt beat women like sugar ray robinson did Yeah that elevates his status as a boxer, that's for sure.

Wladimir has beaten more decent opponents than Lennox. Fact. Because he's had a much bigger career no doubt. :trink26: Like who? "bigger career" :lol1: Consisting of fighting 255 pound Rahmans in Germany? Tremendous feat!

When you lose to Raghman and Mccall you take the back seat Rahman and McCall had a combined record of 58-7, or 29-3,5 per fighter both were in the top 10 of the world at the time of the fight. As opposed to Purrity, Brewster and Sanders with a combined ratio of 95-18 or 32-6 per fighter. none were ranked in the top 10 at the time of the fight. :lol1:

Out of interest, you rank Wladimir #1, but Lennox #1 H2H? How does Wlad's achievements supersede Lennox's? Wladimir has beaten more decent opponents than Lennox. Fact. Because he's had a much bigger career no doubt.

I don't disagree with your list at all but many of those aforementioned fighter's won these titles at middleweight lost there titles, lost and re-won within short periods of time. Hopkins on the other hand with few exceptions (Jermaine Taylor) ruled the division for an extended period of time becoming Undisputed unifying the whole weight class. i wouldnt argue with hopkins being number 1 to be honest, at least he didnt beat women like sugar ray robinson did

Out of interest, you rank Wladimir #1, but Lennox #1 H2H? How does Wlad's achievements supersede Lennox's? When you lose to Raghman and Mccall you take the back seat

Top ten achievement based HW rankings all time... 1. W Klitschko 2. L. Lewis 3. V. Klitschko 4. L. Holmes 5. M. Ali 6. M. Tyson 7. E. Holyfield 8. J. Louis 9. N. Valuev 10. C. Byrd Just missed out.. 11. George Foreman. Top 6 H2H based HW rankings all time. Tier 1 (1,2,3) L. Lewis W. Klitschko V. Klitschko Tier 2 (4,5,6) R. Bowe E. Holyfield M. Tyson Tier 3 Many opponents on equal footing. Out of interest, you rank Wladimir #1, but Lennox #1 H2H? How does Wlad's achievements supersede Lennox's?

Top ten achievement based HW rankings all time... 1. W Klitschko 2. L. Lewis 3. V. Klitschko 4. L. Holmes 5. M. Ali 6. M. Tyson 7. E. Holyfield 8. J. Louis 9. N. Valuev 10. C. Byrd Just missed out.. 11. George Foreman. Top 6 H2H based HW rankings all time. Tier 1 (1,2,3) L. Lewis W. Klitschko V. Klitschko Tier 2 (4,5,6) R. Bowe E. Holyfield M. Tyson Tier 3 Many opponents on equal footing.

The Klitschko brothers have taken over the number 1 and 2 spot just to let you know :lol1: :lol1:

One of my friends was talking about who he thinks is the top 10 HW all time and his list was so ridiculous that I couldn't take it serious. He's a casual boxing fan tho so I understand why he's so all over the place but it made me wonder what most of your top 10 HW All time would be. Mine is as follows: From his top 100 list he has the Heavyweights in this order. 1- Muhammad Ali 2- Joe Louis 3- Jack Johnson 4- Jack Dempsey 5- Rocky Marciano 6- Ezzard Charles 7- Larry Holmes 8- Lennox Lewis 9- George Foreman 10- Joe Frazier The Klitschko brothers have taken over the number 1 and 2 spot just to let you know

1. Muhammad Ali 2. Joe Louis 3. Jack Johnson 4. George Foreman 5. Larry Holmes 6. Jack Dempsey 7. Joe Frazier 8. Evander Holyfield 9. Rocky Marciano 10. Mike Tyson

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I don't disagree with your list at all but many of those aforementioned fighter's won these titles at middleweight lost there titles, lost an re-won within short time frames. Hopkins on the other hand with few exceptions (Jermaine Taylor) ruled the division for an extended period of time becoming Undisputed unifying the whole weight class. Not really, but some did - as with everyone else. Ali also lost and won his title 3 times, because he faced good fighters. No one in their right mind would deny his greatness, because it's not about staying undefeated - many talented fighters can stay undefeated against lower level opposition. It takes a true champion to take a loss, rematch him and win your belt back, proving the other guy was just a fluke. I could put a question to you and say if Roy Jones jr, James Toney, McClellan, Jackson, Nunn, Kalambay, McCallum, Eubank, Benn, Collins, Watson (i.e. all the great/good MWs Hopkins was lucky not to face) etc all had still been at MW, what do you think the chances of Hopkins were coming out on top? To me it's next to nothing. So he's fighting guys where Joppy is one of his better wins, and what we were used to was much much worse than that. Honestly, his best 5 wins at middleweight are not impressing me at all - and certainly not to the extent where I'd say he was in contention for the best ever at MW. That's an absurd statement to me.