shawn porter did this when he wrecked paulie with that hook. i think i've seen Shane Mosely do it against margarito as well. Very interesting i'm gonna look more into this lost art.
The art of shifting....or the lost art of knocking over some mailboxes and trash cans and getting a highlight reel on HBO?
I'm guessing Showtime would do that kind of a highlight..Considering the shyt card they put up today...
Cool video, thanks for sharing. Didn't know Dempsey had a boxing manual.
He has two actually but the other one is more rare. Championship Fighting is excellent.
It's not a lost art at all, and is still actually very common. What is lost a little maybe is how well people use it rather than just using it as a crutch for bad footwork and balance. As has been said, a lot of guys that do it simply do so out of being off balance and missing shots, while others, as the Jacobs, GGG, vids show clearly.
I remember an article with Freddie Brown talking about Duran loving this technique and using it a lot to get better angles on his opponents, and to set up a left hand to the body a lot. Very practiced technique, and not done out of bad footwork/balance at all. Maybe it was Arcel...pretty sure it was Brown. :thinking:
But saying it's only bad footwork is silly. It can be when it's used poorly, but that's the same with anything. The uppercut when used properly is brutal, but it's also very dangerous and easily countered when used poorly, at the wrong time and at the wrong distance. It needs to be done properly.
You wouldn't happen to have the article or remember which newspaper or publication it was from would you?
it's because it's not a lost art you f*cking senseless moron. questionable technique (depending on who's using it) has nothing to do with A lost art. too many fighters to count use that so what makes it such lost art? left hand to the body is a lost art, the bolo punch is a lost art. jab to the body is a lost art...............
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When a legendary trainer or boxer like Manny Stewart and Roy Jones can't identify a double shift move i think its fair to classify the technique as being lost or forgotten.
I could find a video of a bar fight showing a guy turn his back to his opponent but i wouldn't then try claiming he utilized a shoulder roll.
Any any untrained person will do this when they no longer want to get hit and essentially they're performing a shoulder roll but poor balance along with the fact they have no idea what they're actually doing causes them to bring their foot with them which results in turning their back to the opponent.
That's not a shoulder roll and falling off balance isn't shifting.
Sad little ignorant Halfwit.
This Dipshit is one of the dumbest posters on here right now.
i see you're still butt hurt from me schooling you in that other thread huh............learn your boxing history next time bro
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you literally replied to me 10 seconds of me writing editing and going over my post (I am not joking. 10 seconds) you're a f*cking stalker
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lol at people downplaying the artistic and strategic aspect of this move.
as if they havent learned anything from watching the video and are rationalizing it as crude forward momentum.
lol as if they are boxing trainers and professional boxers. smdh.
it's because it's not a lost art you f*cking senseless moron. questionable technique (depending on who's using it) has nothing to do with A lost art. too many fighters to count use that so what makes it such lost art? left hand to the body is a lost art, the bolo punch is a lost art. jab to the body is a lost art...............
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It's not a lost art at all, and is still actually very common. What is lost a little maybe is how well people use it rather than just using it as a crutch for bad footwork and balance. As has been said, a lot of guys that do it simply do so out of being off balance and missing shots, while others, as the Jacobs, GGG, vids show clearly.
I remember an article with Freddie Brown talking about Duran loving this technique and using it a lot to get better angles on his opponents, and to set up a left hand to the body a lot. Very practiced technique, and not done out of bad footwork/balance at all. Maybe it was Arcel...pretty sure it was Brown. :thinking:
But saying it's only bad footwork is silly. It can be when it's used poorly, but that's the same with anything. The uppercut when used properly is brutal, but it's also very dangerous and easily countered when used poorly, at the wrong time and at the wrong distance. It needs to be done properly.
Kind of off topic, but just reading a few chapters of Dempsey's Championship Boxing(mentioned in the video) you can tell that the objective of boxing was much more different that today. Seems like hurting your opponent was more important than outpointing him, Dempsey seems pretty critical of these types of fighters. Decent read thus far.
shifting can also just be bad footwork or a desperate overextension that will sure enough get you KTFO or schooled badly by a great counter puncher. You have to know the perfect times to use it because if not you will just look like a sloppy amature who is about to take a good counter
That goes with most skills. It has to be applied correctly.