I think so. It didn't look hard enough to KO an elite fighter. Was his body that soft ? I don't think hop put that much into it. I watched the replay and first of it was a late reaction and Oscars face didn't show grimacing pain until he hit the canvas.
Anybody that gave Oscar a chance in that fight clearly knew NOTHING ABOUT BOXING! I don't think it was a dive, Oscar should have never been in with B-Hop to be honest
Dont matter though, Goldie dived while the fight was still winnable......
Are we gonna continue to give Oscar a pass about everything.......................This cross dresser was a man that priced himself out of boxing's biggest rematches, and a blatant dive to close out the tail end of his prime....Phony Fraud makes me sick and pretends he's a ambassador for the sport, when he has Canelo fighting on PPV every match
Anybody that gave Oscar a chance in that fight clearly knew NOTHING ABOUT BOXING! I don't think it was a dive, Oscar should have never been in with B-Hop to be honest
I always thought it was a dive by oscar..
Seemed like they agreed to go easy, especially hopkins, let oscar pitter patter and steal rounds early, and then let hopkins stop him...
If hopkins wanted to, he could have murdered oscar in about 6 rounds or less.. The size advantage was absurd..
And then the next week it is was rumored that hopkins was joining GBP, and sure enough a month or so later, he was in business with oscar..
Im not 100% sure it was a dive, but i always felt it was, plus i swear watching it live, hopkins says in his corner, "this is my round" and then oscar drops to the canvas with the body shot, and seemed to be overacting..
Body shots are brutal, and if you have never been hit with one, its pure pain..... So maybe oscar did get hurt, or maybe he took the easy way out, but i always had my doubts about that fight
Oscar very well may have been fighting for Coke money then......whether or not there was a dive, there definitely was a rehydration clause, there was no reason Oscar couldnt gain weight..........
I don't think it was a dive. I do think he quit though. He really did look like he was hurt bad and shots to the liver will def put you down for awhile. Its one of the worse pains to feel in boxing. What would Oscar gain from taking a dive to Hopkins?
Yeah and he also took a dive against Pacquiao after he felt he was robbed against Mayweather. He knew that if Pacquiao beat him it would elevate his status, therefore leading to the rivalry and Cold War we have today. It was all part of puppet master De la Hoya's plan.
Sounds about as dumb as taking a dive against Hopkins because he knew they were going to be partners...
I always thought it was a dive by oscar..
Seemed like they agreed to go easy, especially hopkins, let oscar pitter patter and steal rounds early, and then let hopkins stop him...
If hopkins wanted to, he could have murdered oscar in about 6 rounds or less.. The size advantage was absurd..
And then the next week it is was rumored that hopkins was joining GBP, and sure enough a month or so later, he was in business with oscar..
Im not 100% sure it was a dive, but i always felt it was, plus i swear watching it live, hopkins says in his corner, "this is my round" and then oscar drops to the canvas with the body shot, and seemed to be overacting..
Body shots are brutal, and if you have never been hit with one, its pure pain..... So maybe oscar did get hurt, or maybe he took the easy way out, but i always had my doubts about that fight
I'm not so sure Bhop would of massacred ODLH but I think the fight could and should of looked a lot different.
I'd fancy Bhop to win it but definitely not by a stoppage.
I always thought it was a dive by oscar..
Seemed like they agreed to go easy, especially hopkins, let oscar pitter patter and steal rounds early, and then let hopkins stop him...
If hopkins wanted to, he could have murdered oscar in about 6 rounds or less.. The size advantage was absurd..
And then the next week it is was rumored that hopkins was joining GBP, and sure enough a month or so later, he was in business with oscar..
Im not 100% sure it was a dive, but i always felt it was, plus i swear watching it live, hopkins says in his corner, "this is my round" and then oscar drops to the canvas with the body shot, and seemed to be overacting..
Body shots are brutal, and if you have never been hit with one, its pure pain..... So maybe oscar did get hurt, or maybe he took the easy way out, but i always had my doubts about that fight
Another thing is even Bhop himself was even surprised.
I'm not sure... You have a point though!
The last legitimate stoppage Bhop had since that was the fight with Trinidad I believe and even at that I can't think of a stage where Oscar looked like he seemed so hurt.
Ever since that stoppage it has been the last KO/TKO Bhop has had in his career so 10years since Bhop was capable of getting a stoppage and I don't think we could consider ODLH being to beat up in that one.
It always seemed a bit shady. Seemed shady that might and it seems shady now. There is just something about DLH that you can tell when he is bull****ting (and he seems to bull**** a lot).
Having written this, I still have a lot of respect for both DLH and Hopkins as fighters. But that fight was a business arrangement.
I don't think it was a dive. I do think Oscar could have easily beat the ten count but chose to stay down and pound on the canvas with his fist rather than get up an take a beating from Hopkins. The whole world may disagree with me but that is what I believe.
Its obvious it was a dive, you hear a guy yell BODY SHOT BODY SHOT right before he lands it, and than Oscar acting over dramatic and rolling and punching the canvas, wtf? everyone who has been hit to the body doesn't hit the canvas that side cramps up so bad you can barely lift your arm and the next day B hop became a partner in Golden boy.
Fix is obvious.
Seriously? :dunce:
So Hopkins' trainer yelling at him to throw standard punches, which he does every round, every fight, all fight long, is your evidence of a dive?
He yells it multiple times in other rounds too. In fact, he's yelling it and Hopkins throws one and lands it before the other one, but Oscar doesn't go down then. Why not? Don't be a daft muppet. Nazim saw he could land it, saw it probably hurt Oscar, so told him to throw it more. The fact that you think a trainer yelling out to punch his opponent is proof of the opponents diving is ****ing hilarious. It's beyond idiocy.
"Throw the right hand!"
*boxer throws some right hands! one eventually lands and knocks his opponent down*
You: "duhhhh! His trainer told him to throw a right hand and when he landed it, it knocked the opponent down. Dive! That's proof of a dive! Duuuuuhhhh"
Anyway, it was clearly a good body shot. He threw it well, it landed spot on and you could see Oscars elbow suddenly drop. A slight delayed reaction is standard with body shots. That actually makes it more legitimate than if he'd just dropped immediately. It hits you, freezes you, then pain just shoots through your body and you drop.
I think what's more likely is that he got hit with a genuinely perfect body shot, dropped him and while he could have gotten up from maybe five or six onward, he decided not to. The first part is genuine, the second part seems a little overdone. I ink he could have gotten up if he really wanted too, but I also think he was very clearly hurt.
It's clearly not a dive in the way you're talking about. That's just an absurd POV. It's possible that he decided to stay down when he could have gotten up though.