What does PEDs actually do? does it make fighters punch harder?

I'm beginning to question these posters.....some Of them Know a bit too much about PEDs nsb got an army of ped experts...

there were certainly PEDs in Foremans time (both young and old) Not at the level of today, nor where they used as frequently as today. There are many more athletes I can name that date much further back that fought and participated into their 40's and even 50's without ped's.

I love how people talk sh*t about PED's but a lot of people the have been fans of guys who only have had the life they did because of them. Here are some examples. http://www.acerorojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-Championship-Government-facts-Arnold-Schwarzenegger.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LM9UQn6E4r0/Tm_8xEXCpjI/AAAAAAAABRU/QBwMewl4FxY/s640/sylvester-stallone-flexing-rock-hard-fitness.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wE8JgpwmX1k/UncjVHYrwXI/AAAAAAAAIoI/brbzMmKsapI/s1600/lance-armstrong-7.gif http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081204235513/prowrestling/images/3/3b/Hulk-Hogan.jpg (matter fact pretty much all wrestlers are juicers) What they all have in common besides PED's ? Loved and admired by millions and rich and not 1 of them ever been to jail for PED abuse . People will do anything to get to the top and if there are no punishment for breaking the rules why the fk wouldnt they try to get the edge especially knowing other people already are.

Aging happens differently for different fighters. PED's weren't even around back then, so yes, I think Mayweather and Hopkins don't use them, there's no evidence of it at all. there were certainly PEDs in Foremans time (both young and old)

Mayweather and Hopkins are both users are you that stupid to believe that after 100 years of boxing everyone declines expect Mayweather and Hopkins. What do they have in their DNA a reverse clock ? Its HGH if you don't know not genetics if so than Roger and Floyd Sr would have been boxing into their late 30's No I'm not stupid, and I think you should ask that question of yourself. Do you know the history of boxing? Do you know who men like Jersey Joe Walcott, George Foreman, Archie Moore and I can name many more. Aging happens differently for different fighters. PED's weren't even around back then, so yes, I think Mayweather and Hopkins don't use them, there's no evidence of it at all. You don't know much about boxing or PED's, you should take time to learn.

As expected, there's a lot of misinformation about what PED's do in this thread. People think taking ANY kind of PED is going to give you some kind magic powers that will put you leagues ahead of the competition. This isn't the case at all. PED's range from non prescription, Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs (NSAID's) such as Ibuprofen and other painkillers, all the way to Anabolics, Human Growth Hormone (HGH), Andro, and other "Steroids" both designer and non designer. Typically when people talk about PED's, their referring specifically to Anabolics. Eg. Nandrolone, which is a banned substance in boxing and other athletics. To the point of your question - what do they do? Anabolics have a variety effects, depending on how much you take, and what you take them with. Some of the effects can be increased red blood cell production (thereby increasing the amount of oxygen in your muscles via increased haemoglobin), increased lean muscle mass, reduce fat, and act as a diuretic. The latter, diuretics, help with cutting weight, and can also help mask other drugs that may be banned. Taking any one of them on it's own, can't produce something like a harder punch. Nor can it make you move faster, think faster, be more agile, or any other Marvel superpower people claim steroids give. What anabolics allow, is and increase of gains through hard work, which you would normally not achieve. For instance, a decreased recovery time from working out, will allow you to train more often, which will give you an edge over your competitor. The increase in lean muscle mass can help you move up in weight, but not lose much speed and keep, or even increase, your natural punching power, to that of the bigger man. Again, it's important to note here, that "steroids" do nothing without a strict training and diet regime. They aren't magic. Lastly, typically if you're taking steroids, you'll be on a "stack". Meaning you'll be taking other drugs to help mask any side effects that may be present. For instance, when coming off of a cycle of testosterone, your body will not produce any more of it because it thinks it's producing too much already. To compensate, you will start producing more estrogen. So as the extra testoterone leaves your system, you will be producing high levels of estrogen. The result..."b!tch tits". So you'll need to take estrogen blockers to stop that from happenning. You may also be taking a Taurine supplement to aid proper growth of your new found lean muscle mass in skeletal muscles, or if you're taking steroids orally, to help reduce the cramping from the huge amounts of stress you're putting on your liver. How does this all relate to sports and testing? Well, it's important to note that there is an acceptable amount allowed for these banned substances. This is because people produce/consume a certain amount of them. If you have exceed the allowed limit, then you are accused of doping. What's also important to know is when the testing is done, and what kind of testing there is. PED's become untraceable much sooner in urine, then they do in blood. So athletes take the steroids during the training, then stop taking them the closer the event comes. So this effectively means that a good doper will not fail his/her drug test if they're savvy enough about the system. Random, frequent blood tests are the only way to ensure no drugs are being used. Hope that helps. drugs will always be used. hell the sport of boxing allows drugs they deemed are legal and ok to take without any medical justification whatsoever. professional sports means taking drugs. please stop the whole lets keep it pure nonsense. professional sports hasnt been drug free since the 60s.

PEDs enhance your performance.

As expected, there's a lot of misinformation about what PED's do in this thread. People think taking ANY kind of PED is going to give you some kind magic powers that will put you leagues ahead of the competition. This isn't the case at all. PED's range from non prescription, Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs (NSAID's) such as Ibuprofen and other painkillers, all the way to Anabolics, Human Growth Hormone (HGH), Andro, and other "Steroids" both designer and non designer. Typically when people talk about PED's, their referring specifically to Anabolics. Eg. Nandrolone, which is a banned substance in boxing and other athletics. To the point of your question - what do they do? Anabolics have a variety effects, depending on how much you take, and what you take them with. Some of the effects can be increased red blood cell production (thereby increasing the amount of oxygen in your muscles via increased haemoglobin), increased lean muscle mass, reduce fat, and act as a diuretic. The latter, diuretics, help with cutting weight, and can also help mask other drugs that may be banned. Taking any one of them on it's own, can't produce something like a harder punch. Nor can it make you move faster, think faster, be more agile, or any other Marvel superpower people claim steroids give. What anabolics allow, is and increase of gains through hard work, which you would normally not achieve. For instance, a decreased recovery time from working out, will allow you to train more often, which will give you an edge over your competitor. The increase in lean muscle mass can help you move up in weight, but not lose much speed and keep, or even increase, your natural punching power, to that of the bigger man. Again, it's important to note here, that "steroids" do nothing without a strict training and diet regime. They aren't magic. Lastly, typically if you're taking steroids, you'll be on a "stack". Meaning you'll be taking other drugs to help mask any side effects that may be present. For instance, when coming off of a cycle of testosterone, your body will not produce any more of it because it thinks it's producing too much already. To compensate, you will start producing more estrogen. So as the extra testoterone leaves your system, you will be producing high levels of estrogen. The result..."b!tch tits". So you'll need to take estrogen blockers to stop that from happenning. You may also be taking a Taurine supplement to aid proper growth of your new found lean muscle mass in skeletal muscles, or if you're taking steroids orally, to help reduce the cramping from the huge amounts of stress you're putting on your liver. How does this all relate to sports and testing? Well, it's important to note that there is an acceptable amount allowed for these banned substances. This is because people produce/consume a certain amount of them. If you have exceed the allowed limit, then you are accused of doping. What's also important to know is when the testing is done, and what kind of testing there is. PED's become untraceable much sooner in urine, then they do in blood. So athletes take the steroids during the training, then stop taking them the closer the event comes. So this effectively means that a good doper will not fail his/her drug test if they're savvy enough about the system. Random, frequent blood tests are the only way to ensure no drugs are being used. Hope that helps.

NOBODY HAS EVER DIED IN BOXING FOR USING PEDS. Now that we got that fact out of the way, There is nothing wrong with using peds. In boxing or in sports. If people in other aspects of life can use peds, so should athletes. If anybody should use peds, IT SHOULD BE ATHLETES. WHICH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM DO. So why dont we cut the crap, GET OFF OUR FAKE MORAL HIGH GROUND, STOP THE FAKE OUTRAGE whenever an athlete get's publicly witch hunted for using peds, AND STFU ABOUT IT? Why would you be against another human being taking a drug made by the ingenuity of man so they can be better at their jobs and in turn entertain you? DENYING PED USE = DENYING HUMAN EVOLUTION. STOP IT.

The main use is enhanced recovery, you could train for hours on end day after day with a lot less recovery required. This and the ones that aid weight loss are the two biggest, I'd assume. If you can train longer, you can increase your speed and stamina and power beyond normal.

Yeah but Cheaterson didnt improve his power in any way he struggled to hurt Khan even while using PEDs! JMMs KO of Pac was being overhyped, it's obvious there are certain benefits of using steroids, but it is in my opinion not that im disrespectful of anyone elses, but in my opinion its used by boxers in 126/154 lbs for increased recovery rates and assistance in shedding the weight quicker. The strength gains from the steroids I have knowledge of just doesnt indicate the massive punching power gains, I think its more a major boost in endurance and muscle fatigue. Who knows today there are probably steroids that make you put no water weight on at all but let you benchpress from 240lbs to 300lbs with one course, and remain undetectable. PEDs whilst trying to cut weight might not improve punching power, but having almost limitless stamina for 12 rounds means you can throw constant bombs without becoming fatigued which would give the impression of improved power

They can increase stamina and allow for longer training. The increased stamina from EPO could very likely allow them to be hitting harder, later into a match. So I guess technically the fatigue prevention gained from some PEDs would allow you to hit harder at times where your punches would normally be losing some pop.

They shrink your balls

There is ZERO evidence that steroids can give you a better chin. There are many different PED's and different effects. Testosterone substitutes for example, can make you stronger, and build lean muscle faster. Growth hormone can actually heal you faster, make you "younger" in effect. Also, different men age differently. There isn't one age where you start to decline as we have seen with Mayweather and Hopkins. Some fighters reach 30 and are done, some reach the same age and are just getting started. This isn't a clear cut question. Mayweather and Hopkins are both users are you that stupid to believe that after 100 years of boxing everyone declines expect Mayweather and Hopkins. What do they have in their DNA a reverse clock ? Its HGH if you don't know not genetics if so than Roger and Floyd Sr would have been boxing into their late 30's

Punch harder, better chin more stamina, examples Mosley stamina chin,power against Margarito. Mosley against Mayweather Smaller getting push around by the roided Mayweather, tired after two rounds, head getting snap back. Mayweather a twig at 25 when testosterone is at it's greatest Had trouble with Jesus Chavez, Carlos Famous Hernadez and got his butt kick by Paul Spadafora. Mayweather when he moved up to welter and Jr Middle More Muscular even though testosterone is suppose to decline, took punches well from bigger guys stamina is excellent even at 37 years even though great fighter of the past like Ali, Louis were shells of their former self There is ZERO evidence that steroids can give you a better chin. There are many different PED's and different effects. Testosterone substitutes for example, can make you stronger, and build lean muscle faster. Growth hormone can actually heal you faster, make you "younger" in effect. Also, different men age differently. There isn't one age where you start to decline as we have seen with Mayweather and Hopkins. Some fighters reach 30 and are done, some reach the same age and are just getting started. This isn't a clear cut question.

I wont be watching. you don't need to be-you are. Because you are is the reason you will watch and the reason you have been posting crap like "live and hungry" and "difficult style matchup". u wont be watching? so there will be no response from u what so ever after the fight then correct? u wont even catch the replay, nada! correct? so explain why algieri's style will be easy for manny again? because i always thought manny had trouble with guys that dont stand in front of him? which one is it?

I don't get it what does peds do? i know it makes them have more stamina but does it increase their punching power as well? Punch harder, better chin more stamina, examples Mosley stamina chin,power against Margarito. Mosley against Mayweather Smaller getting push around by the roided Mayweather, tired after two rounds, head getting snap back. Mayweather a twig at 25 when testosterone is at it's greatest Had trouble with Jesus Chavez, Carlos Famous Hernadez and got his butt kick by Paul Spadafora. Mayweather when he moved up to welter and Jr Middle More Muscular even though testosterone is suppose to decline, took punches well from bigger guys stamina is excellent even at 37 years even though great fighter of the past like Ali, Louis were shells of their former self

so are u a huge manny fan too then since u're gonna be watching this fight? I wont be watching. u didnt complain? so why do i need to be a big manny fan to watch this fight then? LOL!!!! you don't need to be-you are. Because you are is the reason you will watch and the reason you have been posting crap like "live and hungry" and "difficult style matchup".

I didn't complain about watching a crap fight-I asked you why you can't admit you're a huge manny fan and thats why you are watching this fight if it happens. So you are a casual fan that niether loves the sport or manny. ok. got it. u didnt complain? so why do i need to be a big manny fan to watch this fight then? LOL!!!!

I didn't complain about watching a crap fight-I asked you why you can't admit you're a huge manny fan and thats why you are watching this fight if it happens. So you are a casual fan that niether loves the sport or manny. ok. got it. so are u a huge manny fan too then since u're gonna be watching this fight?