that's US dollars?
and do you have a link?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxing/10863829/Carl-Froch-to-earn-8m-and-George-Groves-2m-from-Wembley-fight.html
Did the math conversions.
Froch knows that a fight with Chavez Jr. will bring him a lot more money. Also, even if he loses to Chavez Jr., I bet there's still a chance he can get a rematch with Ward because Froch will still bring in tons of interest and money for Ward. Ward would be a fool not to rematch Froch.
People are seriously saying he is ducking Ward? It must be the same people who say Marquez is ducking Mayweather... except at least Mayweather isn't actually calling out Marquez, someone he beat. How about you guys ask Andre why he won't fight Golovkin, that's a duck not what Froch is doing.
Don't blame him, big pay-day and an easy nights work!
Would you not want that fight If you were in his shoes.
I'm not blaming Ward for anything. If he wants to sit on the sidelines and beg an inferior fighter for a fight instead of going out there and getting paid, more power to him tbh.
What I'm not going to do is blame Froch, the lesser fighter for ducking a man that beats him 10 out of 10 times. Especially since he actually fought him before.
It's a duck.. But it's a clever duck.. Let's not forget boxing is also a business and a business that sells the hype surrounding the product as well as the product.
Ward is all risk and low reward. Good business says stay away from such investments.
What is the point of going into a fight that you will likely lose that no one wants to watch except a few Ward pole riders?
Froch simply does not need Ward to make good fights and more importantly.. Good money.
Why would Ward want to fight someone he already beat anyway? It wasn't close or controversial. Stinks of riding coattails.
Lmao dat sig!
Carl says he is a warrior this and that all his usual crap mouthy chav comments that he usually spouts out with his horrible family members jumping to abuse his opponents via social media...
Carl the warrior who wants to right a wrong with Kessler but not Ward??
Hmmm a blatant duck, he is seen as the cash cow of that division and the only reason he doesn't want to try to get a win over Ward is because he knows he is risking getting schooled even worse than last time.
Kessler like a true gent and honorable man reaised froch had the belts and just came off demolishion jobs of BUTE and Yusef mack. The first figh was very close(one i had to froch) and it was considred a classic.
As Kessler is a)a warrior
b) realised froch was the man of the moment, he prepared to travel over to London england for a lions share 50 50.
Andre ward beat froch 115-113 by the American judges score cards. Froch has beaten all the elite opposition and prospects in the super middle weight division. So hes still man of the moment since 2011. Boxing lenged chris byrd along with many others feel froch is number 1 super middle weight, and number 1 draw.
Froch will fight ward only if he gets out of Oakland and comes to England.
Kessler was a man and did it, why not ward??????
No better fight for who?? There's plenty of better fights for Froch. He got beat, don't want no more. But it's Ward the (victor), who wants to sit and beg for it.
Don't blame him, big pay-day and an easy nights work!
Would you not want that fight If you were in his shoes.
not in most, but in some cases, yes. knockouts at HW come to mind. liston - clay, patterson - johannson for example.
froch is ward's # 1 contender. unless he moves up, there is no better fight.
No better fight for who?? There's plenty of better fights for Froch. He got beat, don't want no more. But it's Ward the (victor), who wants to sit and beg for it.
Pretty sure it was in pounds they got paid lol...
Last quote I heard of what who was getting was
Froch estimate of 10million pounds
Groves estimate of 2million pounds
Big PPV so those numbers look realistic, I wonder what Eddie Hearn was pocketing from this event!
Were these heavy underdogs you speak of soundly beaten previously by the same fighter though??
not in most, but in some cases, yes. knockouts at HW come to mind. liston - clay, patterson - johannson for example.
froch is ward's # 1 contender. unless he moves up, there is no better fight.
by that logic, heavy underdogs should never fight.
i agree that the real tests for ward are at 175, but to call a fight against his top contender a "cherry pick" is too much. there's middle ground.
Were these heavy underdogs you speak of soundly beaten previously by the same fighter though??
Aspiring to be average joes? I'm pretty certain i have a more lucrative lifestyle than you so i hope you have a good job etc to back this up unless you're some keyboard warrior
Just so you've not noticed, I'm British. Here's the consensus here in UK
*Hardly anyone cares for a ward rematch here. Even to many in America
*In normal circumstances, when the betting odds are conclusively in favour to Ward, when most people predicted ward would win and then Ward won convincingly. That pretty much means the case can be closed can't it. No need for another fight
*We British back our fighters full stop, win or lose, we are not glory hunters like you
*Ward is deep down clamouring for this fight more than froch - speaks volumes about the irony.
*you have 'personal familiarity' with greatness? I somehow doubt that.
*nothing pathetic about it. Guess what, super 6 is over. Ward won convincingly. He's 'number one'. You should be happy. Froch is in a better place. Get over it. It's obvious why you dislike Froch. You have Wards ass in your face
This glory you talk about is American made. Andre ward was touted to be the next big thing by HBO. He even got a guarantee for every fight even though he didn't deserve it. Your fighter ward, a so called elite fighter, has been reduced to a club fighter in most people's eyes. The fact is, you are butthurt ward is not getting the attention and because it's a British fighter it seems to add salt in your wounds for some reason. Live with it, if ward carries on the way he has, Froch will ironically be the most remembered and most glorified when time passes, no matter how much money making (at least trying) HBO shoves Ward in your face
Goddamn truth bombs.
Would anybody argue Arturo Gatti was the best guy in his division? Would they really put him in the HoF because of his ability? Was the warrior Fernando Vargas loved because of his amazing technical skill? Emmanuel Augustus gave Floyd his hardest fight according to Mayweather for years, despite being a gatekeeper.
What's my point?
My point is you don't have to be the best boxer in your division, or the sport, to be a great fighter, be beloved, and be someone we should clamor to watch.
Styles make fights.
Carl Froch is not going to go down at the best guy in boxing.
Carl Froch is not chasing the pound for pound rankings.
Carl Froch is almost done with his career.
So, do I give a flying **** that he won't rematch a guy who thoroughly outclassed him?
No.
Carl Froch will not beat Andre Ward. If he only has a few fights left, leave that one alone.
Despite this, I think many people would prefer to watch, say, Froch vs. Kessler (two more limited, less "great" fighters) than Ward vs. ______.
Leave it alone. Time for the Cobra to cash out. Let's just see some entertaining scraps. Chavez Jr?
Aspiring to be average joes? I'm pretty certain i have a more lucrative lifestyle than you so i hope you have a good job etc to back this up unless you're some keyboard warrior
Just so you've not noticed, I'm British. Here's the consensus here in UK
*Hardly anyone cares for a ward rematch here. Even to many in America
*In normal circumstances, when the betting odds are conclusively in favour to Ward, when most people predicted ward would win and then Ward won convincingly. That pretty much means the case can be closed can't it. No need for another fight
*We British back our fighters full stop, win or lose, we are not glory hunters like you
*Ward is deep down clamouring for this fight more than froch - speaks volumes about the irony.
*you have 'personal familiarity' with greatness? I somehow doubt that.
*nothing pathetic about it. Guess what, super 6 is over. Ward won convincingly. He's 'number one'. You should be happy. Froch is in a better place. Get over it. It's obvious why you dislike Froch. You have Wards ass in your face
This glory you talk about is American made. Andre ward was touted to be the next big thing by HBO. He even got a guarantee for every fight even though he didn't deserve it. Your fighter ward, a so called elite fighter, has been reduced to a club fighter in most people's eyes. The fact is, you are butthurt ward is not getting the attention and because it's a British fighter it seems to add salt in your wounds for some reason. Live with it, if ward carries on the way he has, Froch will ironically be the most remembered and most glorified when time passes, no matter how much money making (at least trying) HBO shoves Ward in your face
Lmao dat sig!
Froch doesnt owe Ward anything. He already fought him once and lost, time to move on. Itd be different if Froch beat Ward.
Ward is just begging for a money fight that Froch doesnt have to give him. If anything Ward is ducking Kovalev and the other guys at 175, he's already cleaned out 168. Why is he sticking around begging for fights.
Carl says he is a warrior this and that all his usual crap mouthy chav comments that he usually spouts out with his horrible family members jumping to abuse his opponents via social media...
Carl the warrior who wants to right a wrong with Kessler but not Ward??
Hmmm a blatant duck, he is seen as the cash cow of that division and the only reason he doesn't want to try to get a win over Ward is because he knows he is risking getting schooled even worse than last time.
Froch deserves the rematch with Ward in England. Wards not going over seas to fight him so it's whatever to me. **** Ward. Froch can continue fighting and Ward can continue being #1 and bitter. He made a mockery of the super six after head butting his way to victory over Kessler by refusing to travel the way EVERY OTHER FIGHTER IN THE TOURNAMENT DID.
Froch doesnt owe Ward anything. He already fought him once and lost, time to move on. Itd be different if Froch beat Ward.
Ward is just begging for a money fight that Froch doesnt have to give him. If anything Ward is ducking Kovalev and the other guys at 175, he's already cleaned out 168. Why is he sticking around begging for fights.
You remind me of a young me, New England...you will Own many a Bridiot in your time, but remember this...
They are like c*ckroaches...and the only way they stop doing their thing is when they die.
but on to the topic...
Many of you like a grunt like Froch because you think you can identify with him....lol...well get this...
He is CONTENT with being a DISTANT #2 to Andre Ward...completely and shamelessly resigning himself from going for Glory...
for himself AND his lacking Boxing nation...
It's pathetic...and those of you who are defending it have no idea how bad that makes you look...
Britain's top fighter is happy with being 2nd Rate...if you had ANY personal familiarity with Greatness, you would be HATING him for this...
but you don't have any...you are literally aspiring to be average Joes.
Aspiring to be average joes? I'm pretty certain i have a more lucrative lifestyle than you so i hope you have a good job etc to back this up unless you're some keyboard warrior
Just so you've not noticed, I'm British. Here's the consensus here in UK
*Hardly anyone cares for a ward rematch here. Even to many in America
*In normal circumstances, when the betting odds are conclusively in favour to Ward, when most people predicted ward would win and then Ward won convincingly. That pretty much means the case can be closed can't it. No need for another fight
*We British back our fighters full stop, win or lose, we are not glory hunters like you
*Ward is deep down clamouring for this fight more than froch - speaks volumes about the irony.
*you have 'personal familiarity' with greatness? I somehow doubt that.
*nothing pathetic about it. Guess what, super 6 is over. Ward won convincingly. He's 'number one'. You should be happy. Froch is in a better place. Get over it. It's obvious why you dislike Froch. You have Wards ass in your face
This glory you talk about is American made. Andre ward was touted to be the next big thing by HBO. He even got a guarantee for every fight even though he didn't deserve it. Your fighter ward, a so called elite fighter, has been reduced to a club fighter in most people's eyes. The fact is, you are butthurt ward is not getting the attention and because it's a British fighter it seems to add salt in your wounds for some reason. Live with it, if ward carries on the way he has, Froch will ironically be the most remembered and most glorified when time passes, no matter how much money making (at least trying) HBO shoves Ward in your face