Why is it that Pac fans don't want to talk about PPV numbers when it is in regards to Manny's popularity but do so when it is in regards to Floyd's? If we do the math Mayweather as outsold Manny Pacquiao in each of their last few respective fights. Mayweather fought two foreigners (one practically unknown to the casual public) while Manny fought two Americans (one of which was the P4P number 3 best fighter in the world) and May still outsold Manny both times.
Some may bring up the undercards but lets be honest only hardcore boxing fans care about undercards. People turn up in droves for the main event and May has been the A-side in at least one of the two biggest money fights in boxing history.
There is reason why Showtime gave Mayweather a guaranteed purse and not Pacquiao. Now Mayweather may not be the most popular fighter ever but he is by far the most popular active fighter today.
He's on video saying that he would have talked to Pacquiao about ppv money if he actually negotiated, but he didn't. You ignore this because it doesn't fit your agenda. Maidana even got a percentage of this last ppv. Floyd says random **** to piss off Pacquiaos fan base and u idiots fall for it every time.
Just like when he said publicly that he wouldn't give Pacquiao 50/50 before they negotiated in 09, but it was easily agreed to when they actually sat down to talk. If he would have agreed to a 14 day cut off then we wouldnt be having this discussion.
Now go ahead...do the typical 'we ain't talkin about 09, we talkin bout now!' Line.
Why are you bringing all that up? What did I say that is incorrect? Is it not the only reason that the TS brought it up and it has been brought up so many more times than with any other fighters?
Just keep it real for a change buddy!
First of all none of them went beddy bye bye like "Snow Pac" who needed to be kissed by the fat dwarf Buboy to wake up which still took 5 minutes. The only one who came close to that was Roy Jones in the second Taylor fight. Guess what? I do not ranked them very high in terms of P4P greatest boxers ever. Tyson every time he stepped up got beat and knocked out a couple times. Roy Jones same thing with him. Lewis is the best guy you mention so I give you that because I think he was actually excellent but he never went to sleep, so get it right.
So now the degree that one gets KOed is what makes one more talented? Crazy logic ..... Got it! :ugh: Wow, just wow!
Perhaps you just don't like other people's opinions? Just asking .....
In my opinion, you have to take everything into account.
With Floyd's numbers you need to also realize the date, the undercards, and so on.
With Manny he had a devastating loss previous to that, fought a guy that has 6 fans and most people thought that Bradley lost to Manny already (convincingly).
Bottom line is that you need BOTH to fight each other to generate the PPV numbers that people are expecting. It's not Floyd that will bring them in not Manny but BOTH!
TRUTH:
The real reason this discussion keeps on coming up is because Floyd's roadblock #10 is that he wants ALL PPV money due to him getting better PPV numbers. Then goes to analyze "his way" why he deserves ALL PPV MONEY without being objective about it.
He's on video saying that he would have talked to Pacquiao about ppv money if he actually negotiated, but he didn't. You ignore this because it doesn't fit your agenda. Maidana even got a percentage of this last ppv. Floyd says random **** to piss off Pacquiaos fan base and u idiots fall for it every time.
Just like when he said publicly that he wouldn't give Pacquiao 50/50 before they negotiated in 09, but it was easily agreed to when they actually sat down to talk. If he would have agreed to a 14 day cut off then we wouldnt be having this discussion.
Now go ahead...do the typical 'we ain't talkin about 09, we talkin bout now!' Line.
Boxing Scene is a classic example of "There is more of them than there is of us". I hesitate to post my opinion in every thread because from reading the replies I see that there are 20 flamers in every thread that have no interest in any from of intelligent debate.
According to the Boxing Scene majority 700K-800K (as reported by Arum) for Pac-Bradley II is good but 800K-900K (as reported by Rafael) for Mayweather-Maidana (a perceived mismatch) is labeled as "the fans are wising up to Mayweather". Floyd Mayweather just sold 850K PPVs against Marcos Maidana in a fight that every single fan pegged as a mismatch. But he's getting paid a lot so it doesn't count.
I don't know why I keep coming back here. I wish there was a place on the internet that had solid traffic that didn't have children posting messages. I would even pay like $5 a month to post on such a website.
Perhaps you just don't like other people's opinions? Just asking .....
In my opinion, you have to take everything into account.
With Floyd's numbers you need to also realize the date, the undercards, and so on.
With Manny he had a devastating loss previous to that, fought a guy that has 6 fans and most people thought that Bradley lost to Manny already (convincingly).
Bottom line is that you need BOTH to fight each other to generate the PPV numbers that people are expecting. It's not Floyd that will bring them in not Manny but BOTH!
TRUTH:
The real reason this discussion keeps on coming up is because Floyd's roadblock #10 is that he wants ALL PPV money due to him getting better PPV numbers. Then goes to analyze "his way" why he deserves ALL PPV MONEY without being objective about it.
You meant Pacquiao generated the most sleep right? He even got himself tucked in during his performance, that's talent right there.
Something like that can happen to anyone. Especially someone who fights aggressively like Manny (style). Happened to Lewis, Tyson, Roy Jones, .......... perhaps you are new to the sport?
PPV numbers are irrelevant when 1: mayweather doesnt want to fight "a 6 million dollar fighter" and 2: he isnt prepared to split any PPV revenues with him.
the fight is also irrelevant now anyway and doesnt mean anything. its not 2010 anymore. im sure floyd will do just fine beating up on goldenboy fighters and pac with top rank fighters.
Yet Pacquiao's last 2 opponents have been better and neither of them have been at that so hated of things...a catchweight!!!
Really? Rios is on the level of Canelo and Maidana? You delusional if you think that to be true. Rios was a hand pick because he suited Pac's style. And Bradley was a guy Manny already beat before, if it wasn't for the robbery no one would have asked to see that fight again.
Or he could be ****ing your ****** Dad in his *******? He made a little *** line you he probably takes it in his ass.
Reading your posts, you must be really sick in the mind to ever think and posts such topics. Or maybe you were raised in that kind of environment that you think it's ok?
Yet Pacquiao's last 2 opponents have been better and neither of them have been at that so hated of things...a catchweight!!!
Rios is a fing bum who was not only coming off a loss but was making his debut at ww..... Only a nut hugging pacf@g would think rios is on the level of a Canelo or a maidana.
There are various factors at play when assessing Floyds fight numbers
The most obvious is the date and the relation to his choice of fighter and fighters placed on the cards.
However the talk of PPV remains a bullsh*t matter the 'Business boxing fans' bring up to make useless and baseless arguments.
PPV sales don't matter anymore. How much the TV channels make is the new thing in town. :rofl:
These Floyd fanboys used to think ppv numbers make a fighter great, but nowadays it's a different tune. It aint important.
AAAH Okaaay Lol :trink26:
Should I remind you Pacquiao is living across the world and yet doesn't need a Mexican Holiday and stacked undercards to sell ppv profitable for every parties involved?
Do you think Floyd can generate ppv buys similar to Pac fighting in none Mexican holiday with garbage undercards? I don't think so.
Boom! KO! Lol
Solid punch right here.
Mayweather fought Hatton in December of 2007 and that still outsold Pacquiao's fight with Hatton, Yes Manny does reside primarily in the Phillipine's but he's been on American TV for over 10 years and has a well established promoter.
Hatton was undefeated so the hype was bigger for the Floyd fight.