Dan Rafael: 800-900k buys for Mayweather-Maidana

All this arguing over numbers is a joke. It's got people actually complaining because one company puts together a GOOD undercard. I don't give a damn if your name is Pacquiao, or Mayweather, or what the fuck ever. To get 900,000 people to sit down and pay $70 to watch you, is amazing.Exactly. It's considered a fail by the fanatics if Pac or Floyd don't sell a mil ppv's.

Mayweather messed this promotion up from the beginning, but I think the Ms. Jackson stuff was really getting to him. He did that poll and still went with Maidana, he should've jumped on Maidana right after he beat Broner. It gives you more time to hype up the fight. The rematch should do over a million buys, but we'll see. I think Mayweather is going to be forced to fight Manny eventually. That fight should do 1.8 to 2.2 million buys. After that, Mayweather will still have plenty of options for fight 49.

Good numbers for an 18-1 underdog. :boxing::boxing:

820-850k according to Steve Kim's industry sources. (Said so in his podcast)

If the number turns out to be 800K-900K, Mayweather will be about 100K PPV buys behind Oscar De La Hoya for most PPV sales all-time. Oscar sold 13.85M in 19 fights (no streaming), Mayweather has sold 13.7-13.8M in 12 fights (streaming era). Mayweather is unbelievable. People hate him for only selling 800K-900K. A "boring" fighter in a "mismatch" against an Argentine. 800K-900K. That's something else. I expected Pac-Clottey numbers at best. Lol "streaming". Black boxes stole many more fights than streams. The black box was already hooked up to the tv. Lol at streams for a fight party. All choppy and schit.

For goodness sake. So much retards here. This ppv numbers only shows Floyd's asking rate of 32 million per fight doesn't mirror what showtime wants to sell to at the least break even. Which is 1.5 million ppv buys coming from showtime exec estimate. Mayweather has had the luxury of Garcia, Matthysse, Khan and Broner over at show time, and with this supporting cast. And bills to pay for these talents. His ppv is a dispointment because it shows his guarantee doesn't translate to reality of his real drawing power. He needs a known legit contender to break a million. Like canelo, otherwise he just sells 400-500k on his own. ( the remaining is from the stacked undercard ). This is reality. Plus the fact that Floyd's stock is plunging to new lows. The cat is out of the bag. This fraud has been exposed for all his shenanigans, trickery, excuses and uneven playing field.

So explaiin how and why canelos PPV did not crack above 500k? you put floyd coming off a loss vs angulo coming off a loss, on a non title fight, ****ty undercard on a non mexican date, and you will have your answer... but dont worry canelo will be doing better numbers than floyd and manny next year, after he beats lara and cotto...

And that's with Khan and Broner on the card. 2 guys who were drawing a million,plus views on HBO/Showtime. Another money loser for Showtime. How's that $32 million guarantee looking now. And I laugh at the people who said Canelo didn't bring any fan base with him PPV number wise. We've seen 2 flops financially for Showtime out of 3 fights. So explaiin how and why canelos PPV did not crack above 500k?

All this arguing over numbers is a joke. It's got people actually complaining because one company puts together a GOOD undercard. I don't give a damn if your name is Pacquiao, or Mayweather, or what the fuck ever. To get 900,000 people to sit down and pay $70 to watch you, is amazing. I agree with this.... Those numbers are great, its only floyd's huge guarantee that makes it look bad... Floyd-maidana still did double what any roy jones ppv... To truely have blockbuster numbers, there needs to be 2 huge draws.. Floyd-canelo floyd-cotto floyd-shane floyd-jmm manny-cotto tyson-lennox tyson-holyfield holyfield-lennox oscar-tito Those are the huge blockbusters but they all have 2 fighters that could each headline a ppv on its own... Thats the difference.. Guys like maidana, ghost arent going to headline a ppv on their own... You need 2 stars to create a blockbuster...

If the numbers are this low, the rematch is off. First of all when more people watch the replay they will see how ineffective Maidana actually was. So since the undercard and the opponent didn't help the PPV sell more than the card last year, it's pretty much worthless to re-spawn the same opponent. This is a perfect example of selective viewing. Bud, Floyd won't be bullied into being cornered in the ropes getting hammered with hooks to the ribs and on top constantly throughout the fight if he wasn't hurt. It's called effective aggression. Floyd was back pedaling and getting cornered. Why? Coz it hurts so bad getting hit by Maidana punches.

I Thought Showtime lost like $12 million in the RG fight..... Floyds fee! in bold?

That is what we call a failure. Floyd has to get 1mil plus just to get a return on his investment yes? I really did think Chino would be able to help him though. Welp...back to fighting Mexicans lol.

Showtime is now broke

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With the news today that Yuriorkis Gamboa might be going to Mayweather Promotions, many people have been asking a number of questions about this organization. First of all, Mayweather Promotions is a limited liability company (an LLC) in Nevada. Being a LLC in Nevada has a bunch of tax advantages including no personal income tax, no corporate tax, no gift tax, and no unitary tax. There are also liability advantages for being located in Nevada including the fact that officers (C-level, presidents, vice presidents, etc.) cannot be sued as an individual for actions tied to the company, except for outright fraud. There are a bunch of business-friendly privacy laws in Nevada as well. I assume that there is some liability and tax advantages for funneling Mayweather's cash through Mayweather Promotions, and that's why it exists. Now you may have heard either Scott or many other people say that Mayweather promotions is not a licensed promotional company as can be seen here. In Nevada, you have to go through a licensing procedure before the Nevada State Athletic Commission would recognize a LLC which are listed on the NSAC website. Essentially, there is a bunch of paperwork to fill out and there is a sizable fee to pay to NSAC. It is not a difficult procedure but once you become a licensed promoter, the company becomes responsible for a ton of logistics related to putting on a fight. The promotional company is responsible for paying officials, drug and steroid testing, primary medical insurance for the fighter, making sure an ambulance is at the arena, paying ticket fees, paying television fees, submitting the appropriate paperwork, scheduling the proper events, getting the proper licenses, hire a ring announcer, make sure the fighters have appropriately stocked dressing rooms, a proper scale for the weigh-in, supplying approved gloves, issuing credentials, and giving officials parking passes. Whew, that's a whole lot of stuff, and it's why Mayweather Promotions does not want to become a licensed promoter. I would assume that Mayweather Promotions would need to hire a bunch of people to make sure all of these logistical issues are appropriately handled. Basically, they would need to have an actual business and I don't think Floyd has any interest in the logistics of a fight. Whenever a "Mayweather Promotions" fighter like Jesse Vargas fights, the promoter responsible for these logistics is Golden Boy Promotions. This is why Scott and others frequently call Mayweather Promotions a poster and nothing more. Hopefully this clarifies all the questions surrounding Mayweather Promotions. Dude logistically it may funnel through gbp but the money and losses come from showime, hence Floyd's contract with Showtime Floyd basically pays, gbp to be a water carrier, Showtime pay GBP 32m to pass on Showtime have lost 20m plus from this fight Gbp are already in ruin with Richard double crossing Oscar and signing guys over to haymon. Floyd will make no ppv bonus in this fight like he never with gur

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