I really hate the roids thing everyone seems to be blabbing about. If it were "PEDS" or like crazy amounts of caffeine and HGH I would give it some thought but still won't assume that coz the weigh in and fight weight says it all. It's always a usual increase in fight weight from the weighin as far as PAC weighins are concerned. Nothing unusual like maidanas weight increase and Marquez sudden muscularity and power during the PAC-JMM4 fight. 6 week training camps, protein loading and super cardio regiment should also be considered. Convert the protein loaded to lean muscle in a certain amount of time through the right amount of cardio. A good coach finds the balance and weigh-in with lean muscle, the right vascularity and less water. I've seen Roid users when their not in camp. Their like bloated to 30-40 pounds over their fighting weight. It's like impossible for PAC if he were on roids to maintain a 10-15 pound over the fighting weight walking around congress and taping for his tv shows during off season. He doesn't have TIME. So seeing PAC not gaining tremendous weight during his off days makes me conclude he's not into roids. Overdose of caffeine for energy, cortico steroid asthma medicine clenbuterol to make those lung passages abnormally big to breathe better during training after Abnormal loading of protein to gain mass, maybe. But not likely coz he has always been as intense in his workouts even during the days that he could not afford a strength and conditioning coach and was eating peanuts, chicken and egg whites once in a while for protein. Now PAC can afford a coach and better food. Judging from his camp with fortune when they cut down on cardio by not doing their usual daily uphill runs that he used to do with Ariza obviously tells us that they have not been protein loading hence the soft look of PAC during weighin for the PAC-bradley2 fight. He had more water than quality muscles and had very little vascularity. That's what age does to you. Your in danger of muscle exhaustion that causes cramps when you push like you use to in camp. So they adjusted coz of Pacs input in terms of how he feels during fight night after what they did in camp. Hence the decision to go back to 140. No need for protein intake to gain muscle mass and weight to meet the 147 pound limit. If you were on roids? Mentally you'd feel like superman and won't complain about anything. Your fight weight increase would be 15 pounds + come fight night and a week after the fight you'd gain 10 to 15 more if you don't train like you use to during camp. ROIDs can only be used to cheat if you have a minimum of 3mos training camp. PEDS? I wouldn't know. Caffeine and clenbuterol? Anytime during training coz you burn it with the right amount of cardio and protein intake. Overloading in protein and cardio doesn't go well during camp? You become less vascular and you look puffy and in danger of being overweight. I'm a gym rat that's why I know a lot about this. I usually train with mma athletes and basketball players.:)
If Manny stays in there and tries to counter him, Chino hurts him. Even still, I think Chino would just bully Manny physically and make it an ugly, dirty fight.
Have you been living in a cave in the past 5 years? Nobody bully's pac in the ring without getting their face turned into mush. Cotto, hatton, margarito, rios tried. Sure pac has slowed down a bit but it's not like he is shot. He would pick maidana to pieces and unlike mayweather pac will throw more, land more and hit much harder.
I dont know. Pac is better than Fraud but Pac wouldnt pull a pillow glove on Maidana, and Maidana just doesnt give up. It would be a bloody good fight that's for sure.
If Manny stays in there and tries to counter him, Chino hurts him. Even still, I think Chino would just bully Manny physically and make it an ugly, dirty fight.
yeah 5 years ago pac could beat him. Today, Maidana is the one with the araiza ped shakes. Pac is getting KTFO if they fought today, pac's chin is gone since he went off peds.
Pacquio would beat Maidana even easier than Mayweather beat him. All of the head butting, rabbit punching and low blows don't work against a fighter with great footwork or a competent referee. Which PACman would bring. Plus PAC man punches with full force. If mayweather decides to rematch Maidana and use lateral movement instead of laying on the ropes for Gatti fans mayweather would win every round. Mayweather and PAC man is the real fight. If PAC is on roids it's a toss up. Mayweather may or may not be able to deal with someone that can buzz you with even grazing shots like PAC can do when he's on roids. If pac's clean mayweather will beat PAC as easily as mayweather beat Marquez. Who just knocked PAC man out cold.
I really get sick of fighters getting credit for being better fighters than they are when they are just really dirty b fighters like Maidana and hatton. Or excellent cheaters like margarito and PAC man. Or both like Hopkins. I am not saying that bhop, margarito, PAC aren't great fighters. It's just that they are elevated even beyond there ability by the public for cheating.
It would be a rios/margarito type fight. The Robert Garcia school of boxing is never gonna get a win over manny with that come forward brawler style. Frankly Mayweathers style was always best against other boxer-punchers, not rough guys like Maidana. Pac on the other hand has always beat the **** out of brawlers.
It's a good matchup (one we'll never see, of course). I think Maidana eats straight lefts all night long though... Both have good chins. Manny isn't afraid to get into a war and has more power than Floyd. Maidana's style is much more awkward than Rios so I don't think you can substitute one for the other and make an accurate prediction.
I think Pac stops him ultimately though, way too much power and speed. I think the combination would make Maidana more careful than he was against Floyd too. Maidana wasn't scared at all of Floyd's power.
The Maidana that beat floyd Saturday night troubles ANYBODY. I don't know if he can keep up with Pacman's combined speed and attack BUtT if he catches Pac flush WITHOUT sparring gloves... it could drastically change the fight.
If he uses the sparring gloves then it's a whole different story.
I love how your sig shows 3 punches landing on the arm and one grazing off the face
"Chino beat him up doe"
I suddenly have the urge to see this two fight each other, this could be one of the fights TR and GBP are cooking....
Rios is huge, who was maidana training for?
JMM was super strong when he knocked out PAC. His strength and conditioning did wonders for him in his camp vs PAC. When PAC got KD the first time in that find his facial expression says it all, he was surprised and I'm pretty sure PACs team were not ready for that kind of power from Marquez in that night. It was a great six rounds though. After the first KD PAC got he was really bringing it. Messed up JMMs face until the perfectly timed right at the end of the 6th. I hope their next fight if it happens is as exciting.
I suddenly have the urge to see this two fight each other, this could be one of the fights TR and GBP are cooking....
Rios is huge, who was maidana training for?
Great fight if it happens. We can see how similar they are trained by garcia. Actually Marga, Rios and Maidana have so much similarities. Only Donaire fights differently in that stable.
I suddenly have the urge to see this two fight each other, this could be one of the fights TR and GBP are cooking....
Rios is huge, who was maidana training for?