What happened to Nonito?

not comparable to Pac, Manny has lost few times, ktfo few time but each time comeback stronger and achieved even greater heights... anyway Nonito is scheduled for his 2nd fight after the lost, IMHO he may be down but still not out... I disagree. Pacquiao has never got Ko'd in his prime, him losing to Mayweather in 2009 while on his way up would've severly damaged his confidence and career. Who knows where Pacquaio would be today had he not ducked the fight.

That fight certainly affected him mentally and he has seemed to have lost the desire he once had. He's been very inactive and that is proof his mind is somewhere else.

Relax people, he's only lost 1 fight in like 15 years and that was Rigo. His weight climbing will be his downfall

I think with "greatness" out of the question boxing is more of a job to him now. I don't think he's peaked at all and can make a strong comeback if he made his career a priority. he's definitely hit his peak. he's a 31 year old former flyweight. he can't make 122 any longer, and at 126 he looks pretty ordinary. at 118 he's the hardest puncher i've ever seen. small guys peak early. we've without a doubt seen donaire's best.

not comparable to Pac, Manny has lost few times, ktfo few time but each time comeback stronger and achieved even greater heights... anyway Nonito is scheduled for his 2nd fight after the lost, IMHO he may be down but still not out... That just goes to show the difference in mental stability between them both. i am honestly behind Nonito all the way, i just wish his mental strength met his physical attributes. He is truly amazing when he is in his dominant form, damn near unstoppable. I would love to see him pitted against Johnny G. Not only an explosive fight but it would be nice for Nonito to test his chin at 126 before moving up with stronger men at 130.

Oh here we go, another thread hijacked by May****s :/ Anyway, with Nonito, what's happened is that boxing is no longer his priority. Family life, children, they've all seem to have taken that edge away from him, he didn't even seem himself against Rigo. If Nonito can get himself in tune mentally, he can still be a true top level fighter because physically he'd ok, he has never taken a bad beating and hasn't been in too many fights. Nonito has the tools, he just needs the engine.

What happened to Nonito is the very reason why Bob Arum helped Pacquiao duck Mayweather. Pacquiao fans should be thankful that fight never happened because Floyd would of schooled Pacquiao worse than Rigo did. not comparable to Pac, Manny has lost few times, ktfo few time but each time comeback stronger and achieved even greater heights... anyway Nonito is scheduled for his 2nd fight after the lost, IMHO he may be down but still not out...

Well of course he was defeated by the ever so elusive and defensive wizard that is Guillermo Rigo. but ever since he seems to be a mere shadow of his former self. After a depressing outing versus a bloated featherweight in a lousy rematch with Vic Darchinyan, Nonito seems to have lost his poise. In a rematch that was meant to be a blowout, he struggled on the cards but managed to pull off a TKO victory, unimpressive to say the least.. A former fighter of the year, 3 weight champion and PFP elite boxer, Nonito seems to have peaked. At 31 and now facing a difficult opponent in Simpiwe Vetyeka, Donaire and his "new" trainer Nonito Sr. are hoping to rejuvenate his career. With a new camp and attempting to return to his roots by now training in his homeland, Nonito and his father are trying to turn back the hands of time and have the filipino contender show off his once fancy footwork and devastating left hook to the masses. At one point i believed in a PFP setting, Donaire could outclass a fighter in the likes of his fellow countryman, Manny Pacquiao. I wonder, if MP were to face a boxer in the specimen of Rigo, with similar precision,skill, power and athleticism, would he change as well? So my question stands***8230; is Nonito Donaire headed down hill due to his own body***8230;ageing and or lack of interest? or was Guillermo so good he pushed Donaire to question himself and ultimately grounded the Filipino Flash permanently? What would a loss/victory for Nonito do for him at this stage in his limbo bound career? What happened to Nonito is the very reason why Bob Arum helped Pacquiao duck Mayweather. Pacquiao fans should be thankful that fight never happened because Floyd would of schooled Pacquiao worse than Rigo did.

I think it's the same situation that hit Hamed. Both were knockout artists that looked unbeatable and probably got told that everyday until they believed their own hype. Most fighters know they aren't going to be Duran or Leonard but do it anyways. I don't think that was the case with Nonito. He probably entered the Rigo fight feeling unbeatable and got humbled in the worst way. The fact that he hated boxing in his early career and didn't love it until he had a fan base supports this. Once your legacy is taken away and you have a family priorities just change. Greatness isn't as important as the paycheck anymore. I think leaving Garcia was a mistake. He was never really with Garcia, they would just finish up camp with Garcia, and garcia would be there in the ring.

He just doesn't seem to have his heart into boxing anymore. Also smaller guys like Donaire usually peak pretty fast compared to bigger guys. Wasn't he also having promotional issues with Top Rank not too long ago? So you also have that in the background.

He got taken apart and humiliated by a baddass Cuban immigrant and that's that. He's too mentally fragile to come back from it. Nonito may come back and make some money, but the guy that destroyed Montiel is over.

I think it's the same situation that hit Hamed. Both were knockout artists that looked unbeatable and probably got told that everyday until they believed their own hype. Most fighters know they aren't going to be Duran or Leonard but do it anyways. I don't think that was the case with Nonito. He probably entered the Rigo fight feeling unbeatable and got humbled in the worst way. The fact that he hated boxing in his early career and didn't love it until he had a fan base supports this. Once your legacy is taken away and you have a family priorities just change. Greatness isn't as important as the paycheck anymore. I think leaving Garcia was a mistake. Hype and momentum dissipate quickly in boxing, as with many sports. It's not what have you done, it's what have you done lately. Nonito shouldn't have left Robert, he should have relocated during camp to Garcia's gym all along. Kind of funny that when Boxers start acting like the shot callers over their trainer, they start putting in lackluster performances. so we agree, leaving Garcia was a mistake. It's true what they say, you're only as good as your last fight i suppose. If he beats Vetyeka and decides to move up… i think his career might end at 130. If his power doesn't carry over and his footwork and hand speed deteriorate within the next few fights.. i see him retiring. Uchiyama, Miura and Mikey are all some tough champions for anyone and can possibly clear the path for a fighter in the twilight of his career to step away.

the guy got married and just had a kid. he's more focused on his family now, which he should be doing. he had a good run and made good money. boxers do have lives outside of boxing you know

Hype and momentum dissipate quickly in boxing, as with many sports. It's not what have you done, it's what have you done lately. Nonito shouldn't have left Robert, he should have relocated during camp to Garcia's gym all along. Kind of funny that when Boxers start acting like the shot callers over their trainer, they start putting in lackluster performances.

Interesting. What do you think led him to the point of disregarding his once great status in boxing? aside from his loss, i think Nonito realised his love affair with his lead left hook was blinding him. I have been reading a few articles stating that he can reach 126 comfortably, but he might be moving up once again in the near future. Only having one fight at 126 to analyse, do you believe he can carry his power to featherweight and beyond? or would his goal of moving up in divisions stagnate his power? Also, was leaving Garcia a good move? idk.. I want Donaire to be remembered as a great champion and its quite sad to see how far off he strayed from his path in my opinion.I think it's the same situation that hit Hamed. Both were knockout artists that looked unbeatable and probably got told that everyday until they believed their own hype. Most fighters know they aren't going to be Duran or Leonard but do it anyways. I don't think that was the case with Nonito. He probably entered the Rigo fight feeling unbeatable and got humbled in the worst way. The fact that he hated boxing in his early career and didn't love it until he had a fan base supports this. Once your legacy is taken away and you have a family priorities just change. Greatness isn't as important as the paycheck anymore. I think leaving Garcia was a mistake.

I think with "greatness" out of the question boxing is more of a job to him now. I don't think he's peaked at all and can make a strong comeback if he made his career a priority. Interesting. What do you think led him to the point of disregarding his once great status in boxing? aside from his loss, i think Nonito realised his love affair with his lead left hook was blinding him. I have been reading a few articles stating that he can reach 126 comfortably, but he might be moving up once again in the near future. Only having one fight at 126 to analyse, do you believe he can carry his power to featherweight and beyond? or would his goal of moving up in divisions stagnate his power? Also, was leaving Garcia a good move? idk.. I want Donaire to be remembered as a great champion and its quite sad to see how far off he strayed from his path in my opinion.

Yes Oscar your not bitter, but in the same interview you said you would train Chino with Gracia to help them beat Floyd if the rematch happens smh... Trying to hand them that reliable blueprint of yours.

I think with "greatness" out of the question boxing is more of a job to him now. I don't think he's peaked at all and can make a strong comeback if he made his career a priority.

He's had one fight since losing to Rigondeaux (is that how you spell it lol). He'll bounce back.