Didn't Espinoza say that this fight needed to do 1.5 million just to break even?
And Forbes never factors in how much Floyd has to pay for expenses. Advertising, marketing, flights, insurance, etc - that all comes out of that $32 million guarantee
How much do clowns charge bro?
That's all there is about Floyd, his income, his money. A very poor uncharismatic character that has almost no personality except being rich. Totally insecure doing everything possible to keep his 0. When you think about his personality, what comes into your mind? Very ambitious, obsessed, but also greedy, shallow, insecure and sophomoric.
Intelligent? Nope. Charismatic? Nope. Profound? Nope. Humble? Nope. Fair? Nope. Confident? Nope. (Otherwise that glove gate would have not happened) Honest? Nope. He is a good boxer that uses every advantage to win and picks his fights, the most money he makes is by people paying for his fights because they want him to lose and get knocked the f. out. I have to admit, thats some kind of cleverness, using the hatred towards you to get richer.
Never fought Margarito, Paul Williams or Pacquiao, fights that would have been a challenge and would have been "for the fans". He should have lost that first fight against Castillo, most everyone scored that fight against Floyd, if he had lost it, maybe he would have become a better, more reasonable and maybe even somewhat humble person. I really pity all these mindless fools that follow him like Floyd is paying them and never question any of his foul actions.
But that's life, average Joe out there is not really a smart thinking person, its someone probably below Floyd's intellect.
You dude are blinded by hate!!!
At the moment FMJ an W. Klitsko are pretty much the only champs out there who consistently have dominant wins and have an aura as if they cant be beaten.
Why do you think most people want FMJ to fight guys above his weightclass. His walk around weight is ven in the low 150 pounds.
Always these post with nothing but hate, is it really that black and white?
Doesnt he come across as one of the more business savy fighters??
Hasnt he proven just as what in the UFC that you're persona and your skills in the media are hella important regarding how you're going to get Paid and and what kind of draw you are? UFC-> Chael sonnen.
Isnt FMJ an eye-opener for a lot of the athletes, doesnt he make them aware that they should be smart about business. dont you think because of FMJ and his succes a lot of fighters dare to put their carreer in Haymons hand eventhoug his mystic?
How many other boxers do you know who are really taking the risks regarding clothing/branding like FMJ now is doing with his TMT clothing and TBE caps?
Isnt he one of the best fighters/promoters out there? UFC president Dana White acknowledges FMJ's outstanding promoting, but hey what would he know?
Arent FMJ 24/7 and all access the best out there?
arent most topics about FMJ?
About his intelligence, in his field of work he must be one of the smartest. He gets big fights he is a big draw like it or not, and he is involved with the way he is presented at 24/7 and all access etc.
short and simple the dude is special and in this era he is one of a kind atleast in the way he presents himself. other good fighters, RIGO and Ward(Wlad maybe in europe) cant get the same done. So a bit of props can be given even if you dont his pure boxing demeanor.
Not 32 on top of 67, the 32 comes out of... He gets upside, that means when things clear his 32 million guaranteed he gets extra.
He doesn't get 32 million and 50% of ppv.
1 million buys = $67 million
67M / 2 = 33.5m - 1.5m for Maidana - 3.5m for undercard = 28.5m - 32m for floyd.
At 1m buys, the show is 3.5m in the red on PPV numbers. Live gate makes up for it, so do sponsorships, but there are a hell of a lot of expenses. Goldenboy, Haymon, Maidana probably gets a cut of upside too, Shotime will get a cut.
What the article is saying, and what is true, is that at 1m buys, there isn't even close to enough money to give floyd 38m in ppv upside.
I totally agree with the way the article was broken down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did the same calculating a number of times on NSB...excluding numbers outside of PPV.
Most people dont like to think critical, but if this is true then most of you should also agree that if FMJ and Pacman were to fight and Pacman receives from FMJ 40M. Than it would be hard to be lucrative for FMJ. He is used being the A-side to make more than a minimum of 5 times what the B-side makes.
What is GBP making arent promoters supposed to make atleast 20%? Or is GBP making 20% of the GBP undercard fighters?? I think Mosley said FMJ is also under GBP so that would mean that he also had to pay a share of lets say 20% to GBP.
The people who were saying that both manny and FMJ could make 100M, no shhh about (boxing)business :)
waiting for Floyd's online accountants to make up their own numbers and disagree with Forbes
Still waiting on Arums inflated numbers for Pacquiao - Bradley?
LOL who cares how many millions Floyd has. He makes more in 1 night than all of us on this board combined will make in a lifetime. How sad of a life haters have to argue about how much money he really has
Has Warten Buffert ever shown any proof of his 62 billion? Floyd showed his bank account with an atm bank slip. Buffy never proved anything. Floyd did
ATM Slip?
So Floyd keeps all his money in a bank checking account?
You know, I wouldnt put it past a guy that walks around with a million in cash inside of a background. For all the money he makes, he doesnt seem like the most money-savvy guy.
Warren buffett. Worth $62 billion. Owns 1 car (a Cadillac) and still lives in his modest childhood home in omaha Nebraska. He could lose floyds entire net worth over night and probably wouldn't even notice it.
Has Warten Buffert ever shown any proof of his 62 billion? Floyd showed his bank account with an atm bank slip. Buffy never proved anything. Floyd did
Warren buffett. Worth $62 billion. Owns 1 car (a Cadillac) and still lives in his modest childhood home in omaha Nebraska. He could lose floyds entire net worth over night and probably wouldn't even notice it.
Floyd is notorious for lying about his income. He claimed he made $20mil for his WWE appearance when in realilty it was reported that he made around $2mil. He also grossly over exaggerated when he claimed he made $70mil for his bout against Mosley.
He's so insecure that on top of being the highest paid sports figure he still has to lie. Lets examine his $32mil guarantee. Off the bat 39% goes to Uncle sam. 15% goes to Al Haymon. GBP gets their cut. Ellerbe gets his cut. Then factor in training and marketing expenses. Floyd will be lucky if he actually sees $10mil of that $32mil.
NAH! Ellerbe's not getting any cuts, hes just after the ChestRub.
That's all there is about Floyd, his income, his money. A very poor uncharismatic character that has almost no personality except being rich. Totally insecure doing everything possible to keep his 0. When you think about his personality, what comes into your mind? Very ambitious, obsessed, but also greedy, shallow, insecure and sophomoric.
Intelligent? Nope. Charismatic? Nope. Profound? Nope. Humble? Nope. Fair? Nope. Confident? Nope. (Otherwise that glove gate would have not happened) Honest? Nope. He is a good boxer that uses every advantage to win and picks his fights, the most money he makes is by people paying for his fights because they want him to lose and get knocked the f. out. I have to admit, thats some kind of cleverness, using the hatred towards you to get richer.
Never fought Margarito, Paul Williams or Pacquiao, fights that would have been a challenge and would have been "for the fans". He should have lost that first fight against Castillo, most everyone scored that fight against Floyd, if he had lost it, maybe he would have become a better, more reasonable and maybe even somewhat humble person. I really pity all these mindless fools that follow him like Floyd is paying them and never question any of his foul actions.
But that's life, average Joe out there is not really a smart thinking person, its someone probably below Floyd's intellect.
Not 32 on top of 67, the 32 comes out of... He gets upside, that means when things clear his 32 million guaranteed he gets extra.
He doesn't get 32 million and 50% of ppv.
1 million buys = $67 million
67M / 2 = 33.5m - 1.5m for Maidana - 3.5m for undercard = 28.5m - 32m for floyd.
At 1m buys, the show is 3.5m in the red on PPV numbers. Live gate makes up for it, so do sponsorships, but there are a hell of a lot of expenses. Goldenboy, Haymon, Maidana probably gets a cut of upside too, Shotime will get a cut.
What the article is saying, and what is true, is that at 1m buys, there isn't even close to enough money to give floyd 38m in ppv upside.
As a bartender who holds a bachelors of science degree in economics, I second these numbers.
32m Guarantee.
2.2m buys = 80m-32m=48m
1.1m buys=?-32m=?
2(1.1m buys) =?(80M)-32m=48m
Divide 48m by 2 to take it off of the buys
1.1m buys =?-32m=24m
Add 32 and 24
1.1m buys =56m-32m-24m
You could take more off because Canelo generated more in other revenues, but they also didn't spend **** for marketing
Mayweather likely made 50-60m.
The $32 mil comes from the ppv revenue.
It isn't made out of thin air.
Using your formula if the fight did 110k buys Floyd would still make $2.4mil on top of the guarantee.
waiting for Floyd's online accountants to make up their own numbers and disagree with Forbes
They're burning all of their past Forbes articles that claimed good for floyd before. :hijacked:
there you have it if that's not a sign that everyone is getting tired of this fraud mafuker then i don't what is..soon enough he will be remembered as the loud mouth idiot who cherry picked his entire career made some stacks and blew it all paying cheap hookers and fake friends