Lets just forget about the fact that Castillo actually beat him, the Maidana fight showed Floyd isnt this invincible boxing God that his "crowd" make him out to be. Maidana reiterated the blueprint on how to beat Floyd which was first shown by castillo and that is to make it a brawl and slug it out with constant yet smart pressure and physicality; all hallmarks of a prime Manny Pacquiao, Antonio Margarito, and Paul Williams. Three fighters Floyd clearly avoided when he had his fake retirement after beating a career 140 pounder at 147 (after Hatton clearly lost to Luis Collazo in his first fight at 147) when 147 was the hottest and deepest division in all of boxing.
If you look at Floyd's resume, he had never faced that style of fighter with that kind of awkward relentless pressure and killer mentality. Yes, Diego Corrales was a powerful puncher but he didnt have that awkward style that Maidana employs. Same as prime pacquiao who would come at you in different angles coming from the southpaw stance. Corrales was also having all sorts of personal distractions before that fight going to prison drama etc...
People forget Floyd's career started with TOP RANK/BOB ARUM. Notorious for babying fighters and protecting them with softy opponents in order to build their resume into a ppv star. Just look at Floyd's roster of opponents, who was really that threatening? An old shane who was made to look better by a washed up margarito who suffered the ill effects of the brutal first fight with cotto? Hatton? Fook outta er maite. Just go down the list of floyd's opponents and when he fought them from a young green Canelo hit up with a catch weight, Robert Guerrero, the Tree Stump, career featherweight in marquez who was made to go up 2 divisions and cheated in the scales to boot, a semi retired cross dressing coke head, its quite shocking how nonthreatening floyd's roster of opponents are.
What this fight also does is knock some damn sense into some of these fabulous fantasy fights that Floyd always seems to win. This fight really illuminated and tempered the out of control level of greatness always heaped on floyd who people started eating up this TBE nonsense.
Maidana landed a good right hand, a good uppercut, and a left hook and some good body shots. Floyd landed all of that and then some. It was a hard earned decision for Floyd but make no mistake. Floyd won.
It looks more like you're trying to convience yourself than us.
Yeah. Nobody but Pacquiao.
You're the one trying to spin stuff towards your agenda.
I made my position pretty clear.
Now if you thought my view was crap then why bother waste energy?
At the time, (it was February I think) Manny Pacquiao had already fight scheduled against Bradley (which was a good win).
Besides, even if he didn't, Pac was coming off a 1-2 (1 KTFO) streak in his last 3 fights (I know Bradey, robbery, but still...) while Maidana had a very impressive win over Adrien Broner, who was hyped as Mayweather's succesor.
At the time, Maidana deserved May date more than Pacquiao did.
Imagine the reaction if Floyd was the one punching behind the head, holding and punching, bullrushing with the head, twisting arms, trying to knee Maidana, low blows, thigh shots etc.
Just imagine if the roles were reversed. What a joke.
Exactly. He fought extremely dirty. Now he tried to win at all costs kudos but he fought one of the dirtiest fights I have seen in a while. Hell he was instructed to be dirty yet Im suppose to trust his glove choice? Fucc outta here.
Same with the Ortiz fight. He tried to hit Floyd with a couple head butts but the lunging ram style head butt attempt sticks out to me. And I'm suppose to feel sorry Ortiz got KTFO? Fucc outta here. No one on NSB mentions victors head butt or Maidana s knee attempt on this site. Nothing but biased idiots so thirsty for Floyd to lose that any time someone gets 4 rounds off him that means they won the fight. Saw the same bs posts after the Cotto fight.
Yes. Floyd proved once again that he isn't really about fighting on an even playing field. He needs every advantage and the ref to save.
Wow. You get more pathetic and whiny by the day.
Ugh.
Maidana was not a "cherry pick" opponent, FFS. He busted his ass for years for that opportunity and earned the right to be opposite Floyd with his demolition job on Broner.
I know that you Pacquiao worshipping twats will say and do anything to discredit Mayweather (and vice versa, to be fair) but calling Maidana a "cherry pick" isn't insulting to Floyd - It's insulting to Chino.
Before the fight everybody know it was a cherry picked fight as usually he does. The problem is his cherry picking backfired on his ass. Luckily for him his cowardice (gloves cheating) save him from further humiliation.
But he clearly won doe :rofl: Good ole NSB.
Did the Oscar, Judah and Cotto fight prove he was beatable? And I thought Floyd only fought face first brawlers now if he fights boxers they are tailor made..lol
Which is it.
Maidana clearly lost.
Most people had Maidana winning 4 or 5 of the the 1st 6 rounds. The 2 judges who scored it for Mayweather scored only 2 of the 1st 6 for Maidana. This is why he is unbeatable unless he is KO'd. There is simply too much money involved in Mayweather winning. Personally when the fight was over I called it a draw. Had Maidana been able to wear his punchers gloves I think it would have made the difference.
And Yes...Mayweather does not like pressure and I said Maidana has the right game plan for him when the fight was made.
Maidana didn't prove anything, he lost. do you know the meaning of the word prove?
Yes. Floyd proved once again that he isn't really about fighting on an even playing field. He needs every advantage and the ref to save.
Lets just forget about the fact that Castillo actually beat him, the Maidana fight showed Floyd isnt this invincible boxing God that his "crowd" make him out to be. Maidana reiterated the blueprint on how to beat Floyd which was first shown by castillo and that is to make it a brawl and slug it out with constant yet smart pressure and physicality; all hallmarks of a prime Manny Pacquiao, Antonio Margarito, and Paul Williams. Three fighters Floyd clearly avoided when he had his fake retirement after beating a career 140 pounder at 147 (after Hatton clearly lost to Luis Collazo in his first fight at 147) when 147 was the hottest and deepest division in all of boxing.
If you look at Floyd's resume, he had never faced that style of fighter with that kind of awkward relentless pressure and killer mentality. Yes, Diego Corrales was a powerful puncher but he didnt have that awkward style that Maidana employs. Same as prime pacquiao who would come at you in different angles coming from the southpaw stance. Corrales was also having all sorts of personal distractions before that fight going to prison drama etc...
People forget Floyd's career started with TOP RANK/BOB ARUM. Notorious for babying fighters and protecting them with softy opponents in order to build their resume into a ppv star. Just look at Floyd's roster of opponents, who was really that threatening? An old shane who was made to look better by a washed up margarito who suffered the ill effects of the brutal first fight with cotto? Hatton? Fook outta er maite. Just go down the list of floyd's opponents and when he fought them from a young green Canelo hit up with a catch weight, Robert Guerrero, the Tree Stump, career featherweight in marquez who was made to go up 2 divisions and cheated in the scales to boot, a semi retired cross dressing coke head, its quite shocking how nonthreatening floyd's roster of opponents are.
What this fight also does is knock some damn sense into some of these fabulous fantasy fights that Floyd always seems to win. This fight really illuminated and tempered the out of control level of greatness always heaped on floyd who people started eating up this TBE nonsense.
castillo 1 did show floyd can be beaten....
maidana fight also...
Maidana didn't prove anything, he lost. do you know the meaning of the word prove?
Who looked more damaged in the fight. There was a poll here saying Floyd looked like the one who got his ass handed to him. It was a Lang slide 95% for Floyd being the more damaged.
That alone says who put the hurt in the hurt game.
floyd is always open for the right hook to the body.
nobody has been able to capitalize on it.
shane had a great chance to knock floyd out with a great body shot when he hurt floyd but he missed badly with the left hook to the body. He over shot it and his wrist hit floyd's body instead. had he landed that punch floyd would have crumbled to the ground a la oscar vs bhop.
Actually there was an interview of Pac, saying he will exploit Floyd's body. He says it was always open.
And it proves Floyd has always been open for body shots. It's just that Maidana was the only one who kept on doing it among Floyd opponents.
Those body shots were landing all night (constantly). Chino was unloading like his life depended on it. Vicious!
I just realized something. Floyd's is always open for body shots.
floyd is always open for the right hook to the body.
nobody has been able to capitalize on it.
shane had a great chance to knock floyd out with a great body shot when he hurt floyd but he missed badly with the left hook to the body. He over shot it and his wrist hit floyd's body instead. had he landed that punch floyd would have crumbled to the ground a la oscar vs bhop.
And it proves Floyd has always been open for body shots. It's just that Maidana was the only one who kept on doing it among Floyd opponents.
Those body shots were landing all night (constantly). Chino was unloading like his life depended on it. Vicious!
I just realized something. Floyd's is always open for body shots.
or you could just be jose luis castillo, prime pacquiao, prime margarito, or prime paul williams.
or you can go on fake retirements.
C'mon now those were legit retirements.
Legit way to duck n dodge.
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If you have a sledgehammer in each fist, can throw 900 punches in the fight, are willing to take risks, can corner a cheetah, be relentless, take punches when needed, don't get demoralized... then it may be a blueprint for you.
or you could just be jose luis castillo, prime pacquiao, prime margarito, or prime paul williams.
or you can go on fake retirements.
Official scorecards are a joke in this sport. Plus, as I said yesterday, they're entirely subjective - So I'm not going to bother debating scores for those fights with you.
I will say that Castillo II was nowhere near the blowout people like to pretend it was, though.
It's a blueprint to beat him if you have the stamina to execute it for the full 12 rounds which, admittedly, few do. But that becomes less of an issue now that he's showing signs of age.
Maidana is as crude a fighter as it gets and he had Floyd in fits on Saturday.
If you have a sledgehammer in each fist, can throw 900 punches in the fight, are willing to take risks, can corner a cheetah, be relentless, take punches when needed, don't get demoralized... then it may be a blueprint for you.