Typical non-boxing fans gonna discredit his win, i should have made this thread before the win because i knew posters would downplay his victory
49 years old and unifying titles. Take note.
http://i61.tinypic.com/2pov820.jpg
You're exaggerating.
Tell us who he was supposed to fight, keeping in mind that when he fought Chad Dawson, Kovaelev and Adonis Stevenson weren't even on anybodies Top list, as they were nobodies.
You can't even say that he ducked anybody since these guys just emerged last year and one of them (Stevenson) is about to fight Hopkins. I'm not sure what the problem is, other then you being a bit irrational.
Irrational is the best way to describe the majority of posters on this site, especially those against Hopkins.
I watched the Hopkins/Porter/Quillin fights with my family members and 2 friends. We all had fun, Hopkins gave us some laughs and "oohs", it was a great night, good discussions. Then I come here to, how Mangler called it "Non Stop B*tching" and see so called "hardcore" fans b-tching day in and day out about a fight. Like old grumpy men, not being able to say anything positive about the night of boxing.
Hell, I dislike Pac, and all I did was praise his latest fight on how good it was, but these guys in this thread all they do is constantly talk negative about fighters who don't have the style they like, or the color. I'm the bad poster? The non-boxing fan. These guys have to look in the mirror.
i scored calzaghe fight for bhop by a point.
and he wasnt supposed to win the trinidad fight, he was massive underdog, as he was in the tarver fight.
Doesn't matter what popularity and in the moment say, Trinidad was a career welterweight.
Broner was supposed to beat Maidana. Why? Because of popularity and in the moment d1ckriding.
Why give Hop any credit when you can gloat over ppv mismatches??
:rofl::rofl: this all day^^^^^^^^^^^
most dudes here LOVE the sport...and therefore we LOVE to talk and watch boxing.....with those things in your DNA and psyche, you HAVE to admire what BHop is doing atm....IMO, the people who discredit him do it for PERSONAL reasons.....he may have struck a nerve with his remarks or the tactics he imply in the ring...I can't put my finger on the EXACT reason cats play the way they play when it comes to BHop, but all I know is that it's PERSONAL.....dudes got issues with the cat they see in the mirror and try to blame that on others....disregard the Debbie Downers, lets celebrate this win!!
There is no realism in your post.
Murat does not = fighting bad opposition at all times. That's one opponent.
Before that it was Tavoris Cloud > Chad Dawson.
Murat was mandatory.
he feasted on two welterweights. Big deal. He was supposed to beat those guys. Their entire careers are based on what they did at 147 or below. When he faced a prime, young middleweight, he lost, twice in a row. Johnson is not a hall of famer by any means. Winky Wright? Thats his best win. Winky fvcking Wright. The guy with no power, who just puts his oversized gloves over his face.
He faced a real threat again in Calzaghe, and lost.
You sure made a point there pal!
not sure if trolling ...
Why? It's boxing.
Meh, I guess you're right.
I've been watching the sport for a long time, and to this day when a bullshit score goes up, I still get surprised.
Guess I'm not as jaded as I thought.
But really, how many rounds could one possibly give Shumenov tonight? 3 at the very most? Throw in the 10-8 11th, and it seriously boggles my mind.
Boxing has been dirty since it's inception. Guess I'll be that sucker until I'm done watching.
he feasted on two welterweights. Big deal. He was supposed to beat those guys. Their entire careers are based on what they did at 147 or below. When he faced a prime, young middleweight, he lost, twice in a row. Johnson is not a hall of famer by any means. Winky Wright? Thats his best win. Winky fvcking Wright. The guy with no power, who just puts his oversized gloves over his face.
He faced a real threat again in Calzaghe, and lost.
You sure made a point there pal!
i scored calzaghe fight for bhop by a point.
and he wasnt supposed to win the trinidad fight, he was massive underdog, as he was in the tarver fight.
Who here is disparaging JCC Sr., carnale?
I think anybody that has watched the sport and has half a brain would say Sr. is one of the, if not the greatest of Mexican fighters to lace them up.
Nobody here tonight, just using that as an example of the nonsense I've seen here throughout the years.
Hopkins has beaten 5 hall of famers - delahoya, trinidad(unbeaten), tarver, johnson(Unbeaten), wright and controversial loss to calzaghe
he feasted on two welterweights. Big deal. He was supposed to beat those guys. Their entire careers are based on what they did at 147 or below. When he faced a prime, young middleweight, he lost, twice in a row. Johnson is not a hall of famer by any means. Winky Wright? Thats his best win. Winky fvcking Wright. The guy with no power, who just puts his oversized gloves over his face.
He faced a real threat again in Calzaghe, and lost.
You sure made a point there pal!
Good post.
Thank you Loaded, I just don't think some realize how smart and great Hopkins actually Is. We will certainly never see a fighter of his caliber In our lifetimes again.
Yes, there are other great fighters out there, but none that are fighting guys 20 years younger than they are and making It look easy, as Hopkins does.
But of course you do.
1. Why is Hopkins still fighting? According to his own admission, it's to unify all the World Title Belts. He began that process tonight.
2. If he wants to unify that means that he has to fight Adonis Stevenson - the Real Champion of 175, which now seems pretty likely since Stevenson joined showtime (ducking Kovalev in the process, but that's his business not B-Hop's).
3. Embrace what is happening and stop whining about a 50 year old fighting bad opponents. The only reason he fought his previous opponent was so he can keep his IBF Title in order to unify it with the WBA. And prior to that, all of his opponents were top 10 at 175 (Chad Dawson, Tavoris Cloud are top Light-Heavy's).
Its all the bhop fans that are crying, they cant handle a little bit of realism.
Julio Cesar Chavez was 89-0 before his first loss, and people here love to say, "yea, but he fought nothing but bums."
Hopkins wins against nobodies, and hes considered a legend.
JCC holds he record for most successful title defenses and most title fight victories, and "he fought nothing but Tijuana cab drivers".
Hopkins wins at an older age, against literally, nobodies, and "hes a legend".
Who here is disparaging JCC Sr., carnale?
I think anybody that has watched the sport and has half a brain would say Sr. is one of the, if not the greatest of Mexican fighters to lace them up.
When has hopkins ducked anybody? answer:nobody
there is a cold war going on, he cant fight kovalev because of that.
thus, press for a ward fight
So bhop has been fighting the best fighters he could possibly fight recently?
Come on man, stop fooling yourself.
Hopkins has beaten 5 hall of famers - delahoya, trinidad(unbeaten), tarver, johnson(Unbeaten), wright and controversial loss to calzaghe
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How long have you been a pro Comedian?
Julio Cesar Chavez was 89-0 before his first loss, and people here love to say, "yea, but he fought nothing but bums."
Hopkins wins against nobodies, and hes considered a legend.
JCC holds he record for most successful title defenses and most title fight victories, and "he fought nothing but Tijuana cab drivers".
Hopkins wins at an older age, against literally, nobodies, and "hes a legend".
Hopkins has beaten 5 hall of famers - delahoya, trinidad(unbeaten), tarver, johnson(Unbeaten), wright and controversial loss to calzaghe
Some rotten posters posting here about PED's. You have to just hate life to spew stuff like that. And don't come with that "But Floyd fans..." dammit, is it about getting at Floyd fans every god damn time? Don't try to deflect this either, you know damn well that was going to be your response.
Anyway, with that off my chest, Hopkins had limited options. He fought the best guy possible, that he hadn't already fought, and was available. Sure Shumenov is average, but there wasn't many options left. With Stevenson on the Haymon/Sho train, Hopkins has a very good fight ahead of him in Canada, and as we heard, he and GBP are down for it.
Let's keep it 100 here, B-Hop would give Kovalev a schooling, and that would be his best win in a while.
Kovalev is dangerous, and packs power in both hands, but B-Hop has a higher ring IQ and is better defensively.
If that would be the case then bhop would of went straight for him but do you know why he didnt?
So bhop wants to be the champ in that division but doesnt want to fight the best in the division.
And that is ok to you as a boxing fan, ok.
When has hopkins ducked anybody? answer:nobody
there is a cold war going on, he cant fight kovalev because of that.
thus, press for a ward fight
So bhop wants to be the champ in that division but doesnt want to fight the best in the division.
And that is ok to you as a boxing fan, ok.
Let's keep it 100 here, B-Hop would give Kovalev a schooling, and that would be his best win in a while.
Kovalev is dangerous, and packs power in both hands, but B-Hop has a higher ring IQ and is better defensively.