I just think this is a ridiculous request. Asking Pacquaio to leave Arum is like asking Floyd to cut out Elerbie or Al Haymon its just ridiculous. I heard Stephen A. Smith on ESPN 98.7 making this ridiculous argument today on Floyd's behalf. I really just think its another excuse. Floyd wouldn't cut out Elerbie or Haymon its a ludicrous request.
Asking to cut out people in your camp/team/Management is ridiculous.
Give it up already damn that ship has sail
You mean you've accepted that your girl friend Floyd will always be a pussay.
I guess this time Floyd lovers have no more excuses left but to say give it up already.
Shows they ran out of excuses to defend their boy toy. Seriously you guys should still push it for your fighters sake. If not he will be forever etched in stone as a pussay fighter.
Better yet.
1. Can someone tell me the Cons of Pac leaving Arum and becoming his own boss?
2. Can someone tell me the Pros of staying with Arum with Pac being who he is?
Take off your pacterded goggles for just a moment.
Those roadblocks that Floyd put had very little to do with Arum!!!
- PEDs testing begins with Manny
- I WANT ALL PPV MONEY
- GOING ON A LONG VACATION
- MANNY NEEDS TO AVENGE HIS LOSSES ..... but Khan and Maidana do not
- Health comes first
- Manny you are next .... then changes it to : no Manny not next
Get rid of Arum and this fight would be signed in 10 days or less. Just like the Cotto fight.
When was that? 4-5 years too late ... Cotto by then in plenty of wars ..... everyone said it's not the same no more ..... so yeah, by next year, Manny vs Floyd is right on track for being like Cotto vs Floyd ...... TOO LATE!
You'd think people would catch on to the fact that Floyd is just setting up barriers to keep Manny from fighting him. If he leaves Arum, it will be something else.
Steve Kim:
"If Manny and Floyd couldn't get made when both were on HBO, how is it going to happen now with each fighting on different networks?"
That's my point... Giving in to another Floyd request does not guarantee Floyd signing a contract.
Some of you post stuff and use the word gullible...
FMJ has proven that he isnt scared for anyone at 147 at the moment, to me atleast. The moment he stepped in the ring with canelo all my doubts were erased.
You guys are gullible if in 2014 y'all are thinking with FMJ only fighting at showtime that the biggest chance of making the fight is for manny-i-fight-for-free to stay with TR and HBO.
anyone with half a brain and all the precedents in front of him knows that chances of a Manny vs FMJ will realistically increase when manny takes some time post his current contract to listen what both sides have to offer him. It really seems a debate with pacman fanboys cant be on good strong rational arguments.
Staying with BOB hasnt worked, building venues hasnt helped, offering free fights hasnt worked. why not try something that has helped multiple times, multiple fighters. sign a contract with the right people/camps?!
Three words: You're an idiot.
Why does everyone keep asking PAC to leave arum similar to cotto? Has cotto ever made more money than PAC?
Floyd trying to treat PAC like any other fighter in negotiations is a joke.
What was PAC supposed to do with the 40 mil offer from Floyd if he was under contract with Arum?
Floyd is in the promotion business and he knows his offer to pac's side was not acceptable.
Steve Kim:
"If Manny and Floyd couldn't get made when both were on HBO, how is it going to happen now with each fighting on different networks?"
Why does everyone keep asking PAC to leave arum similar to cotto? Has cotto ever made more money than PAC?
Floyd trying to treat PAC like any other fighter in negotiations is a joke.
What was PAC supposed to do with the 40 mil offer from Floyd if he was under contract with Arum?
Floyd is in the promotion business and he knows his offer to pac's side was not acceptable.
exactly, they are so far up floyd's ass they can't even think for themselves. When Floyd was asked by a WSJ reporter if he will fight Pac when he joins TMT, Floyd HIMSELF Says "you can come sign under Mayweather promotions and THEN we could see...ummm..where we can go...umm..from there."
So yeah, it's all obvious BULLSHIT and his fanatics are extremely gullible.
Some of you post stuff and use the word gullible...
FMJ has proven that he isnt scared for anyone at 147 at the moment, to me atleast. The moment he stepped in the ring with canelo all my doubts were erased.
You guys are gullible if in 2014 y'all are thinking with FMJ only fighting at showtime that the biggest chance of making the fight is for manny-i-fight-for-free to stay with TR and HBO.
anyone with half a brain and all the precedents in front of him knows that chances of a Manny vs FMJ will realistically increase when manny takes some time post his current contract to listen what both sides have to offer him. It really seems a debate with pacman fanboys cant be on good strong rational arguments.
Staying with BOB hasnt worked, building venues hasnt helped, offering free fights hasnt worked. why not try something that has helped multiple times, multiple fighters. sign a contract with the right people/camps?!
Floyd would not fight PAC even if PAC leave TR/arum. It's as bogus as Khan winning Floyd's Poll and yet Floyd's fighting Maidana. Floyd's just not a man of his word.
when did bradley turn into a mexican? and i bet u didnt even watch the clip but read the title of it and ran with it? lmao!! he didnt say anything about bradley was force into resigning in order to get a rematch. he said in order to secure the rematch they resign. maybe i missed the part where he said they were force into resigning. can u point that out for me? it says an agreement was agreed upon so they resign. so thats forcing now?
I have the clip on my HD!!! Joel Diaz is in Bradley's camp and i think he's the main trainer. If you didn't come to the conclusion that in order to get the fight with manny he had to extend out of this interview than i honestly don't know what to say... but to add to that a lil'
this is what Richard had to say about uncle BOB...
"Maybe I would start with Timothy Bradley - who had a signed rematch provision with Manny Pacquiao for $10 million dollars. But instead of Pacquiao he got Provodnikov, and instead of $10 million he got $2 million for an HBO fight, where it almost cost him his life," Schaefer said.
"So now, how is Bradley getting rewarded? He's getting Pacquiao. That's great. But is he getting the contractual $10 million dollars? No he's not, and why is nobody bringing up that ****. If I would be Bob, I would leave it at this. Let's not go down the line, because if he wants to go and give Golden Boy fighters advice - I'll be happy, I'll be very happy to do the same with Top Rank fighters."
source:
http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/2/20/5429582/schaefer-arum-should-stay-quiet-about-what-golden-boy-fighters-are
If this is true uncle BOB is indeed a nice guy, and BOB and manny are the good guys the hero's
DIdn't cotto get the fight immediately when he left TR?
What does my post have to do with Cotto? Aren't we talking about Pac? I posted an actual quote from Floyd himself specific to this topic and specific to Pac, and you brought up Cotto? Nice try.
I find it funny the some people actually believe Mayweather really would fight Pacquiao if he left Arum. Another hoop to jump through, another excuse.
exactly, they are so far up floyd's ass they can't even think for themselves. When Floyd was asked by a WSJ reporter if he will fight Pac when he joins TMT, Floyd HIMSELF Says "you can come sign under Mayweather promotions and THEN we could see...ummm..where we can go...umm..from there."
So yeah, it's all obvious BULLSHIT and his fanatics are extremely gullible.
Marquez wouldnt have gotten the fight had he not left gbp
more like marquez wasnt eating right so he left gbp and got a rematch with manny, then fought for a title shot against bradley. yup marquez shoulda stayed with gbp
Shane wanted to leave Goldenboy? A company in which he owned HUGE stock in? Corporate officer Mosley?
No, Mosley simply was told by Arum that im not dealing with those GBP clowns and to come here if you want to fight Pacquiao, he did, and he signed a 1 fight deal.
Now Marquez seems to have left on his own free will.
so if shane owned huge stocks at gbp why leave then? so u're saying the money he made for the pac fight was more than what he was getting at gbp? how is that forcing u to leave then LOL.