So
MAB 2003 (Marquez beat him 2007 closely)
Morales
De La Hoya
Hatton
Cotto
Clottey
Margarito
Mosley
Bradley (Marquez lost to)
I think Marquez would have lost to Cotto, Clottey and Margarito versions Pacquiao fought.
Clottey will eat JMM punches (assuming he lands on that turtle shell) like how he ate Pacquiao's while dishing his own damage.
JMM's slower pace for being a counter-puncher will favor Clottey, also a counter-puncher.
The only game changer is Clottey's size, he was considered a huge welter at the time.
I would've loved to see the fantasy match-up between Marquez and Margarito. A lot of people say that he would've just ran over JMM like a tank going over a car but I think Margarito would've eaten a lot of shots in the process.
It'd be like a slower-paced, but more brutal version of Márquez-Díaz 1. And how does JMM get stopped? JMM has never looked fatigued or like he's on the verge of quitting in a fight. :/
My take (assuming he fights Pacquiao's versions):
Márquez UD De la Hoya
Márquez TKO11 Hatton
Cotto UD Márquez
Márquez MDClottey (boring fight, harder to score...probably akin to Winky-Hopkins)
Márquez UD Margarito (somewhere along the lines 115-113)
Márquez UD Mosley
Márquez UD Ríos
Bradley SD Márquez
No,, jmm would lose to a prime barrera that manny fought,,
Morales would be a tough out..
JMM already lost to bradley
Cotto would crush jmm
Margs might even run over jmm....
Styles make fights, and jmm doesnt have the skillset to deal with much bigger fighters like manny has
He more than has the skill sets to beat this guys. Physically his body just doesn't hold up at the higher weights like Manny does. If his body would hold up at this weight he would have a great chance to compete and beat those fighters.
Im not even sure JMM can beat Alvarado.
JMM will have a hard time beating legit contenders at 140lbs and above...Only guy he has a shot against is PAC and it'd always be a 50/50 fight.
JMM loses his speed at 140 and above ...although he can and will be competitive always due to his ring IQ and experience.
He can beat Alvarado and possibly Provodnikov if he can control distance and keep Provo off him with power counters.
Styles makes fights, but Pac, in terms of hand- footspeed and stamina is such a freak, that he will be a tough fight for everybody. Marquez already lost to Bradley, i see Margarito giving him problems since Marquez punch output and footspeed arent great. I would also favor Cotto and Oscar
No way marquez beats margarito or clottey. I'd give jmm a better chance against cotto at 147 than against clottey. It's just a terrible terrible style matchup for jmm.
jmm ducked morales after jmm ducked pac rematch
pac took the morales fight and jmm fought john
John won their fight pretty clearly....yet JMM even moans about that one
I don't think Marquez would have been able to beat the bigger guys (weight/size-wise) Manny fought at 147. Not even sure he could beat someone like Clottey.
Clottey may be a winnable fight but the others, just no.
I don't think Marquez would have been able to beat the bigger guys (weight/size-wise) Manny fought at 147. Not even sure he could beat someone like Clottey.
Who cares? Manny couldn't beat JMM, at 126, 130, 147, or any weight for that matter. IMO a lot of those guy are to big for Marquez and would probably beat him and just because Many was able to beat them doesn't erase the fact that JMM beat Manny clearly 3 times.
he beat pac clearly once. the ko.
morales and barrera are superior to jmm
mosley, marg, clottey, cotto are all too big
hatton and rios would have roughed up jmm
kangaroo meat oscar too
hell ledwaba would probably have been a boring ass close fight with jmm
jmm is a bad matchup for pac but he is not as good as pac especially against bigger guys.
Who cares? Manny couldn't beat JMM, at 126, 130, 147, or any weight for that matter. IMO a lot of those guy are to big for Marquez and would probably beat him and just because Many was able to beat them doesn't erase the fact that JMM beat Manny clearly 3 times.
He didn't.
Who cares? Manny couldn't beat JMM, at 126, 130, 147, or any weight for that matter. IMO a lot of those guy are to big for Marquez and would probably beat him and just because Many was able to beat them doesn't erase the fact that JMM beat Manny clearly 3 times.
Short answer: HELL NO.
Pac's resume completely diarrheas over JMM's.
Pac would've walked through JMM's list of opponents like a hot knife through butter, but the same can't be said of JMM going through Manny's.
So
MAB 2003 (Marquez beat him 2007 closely)
Morales
De La Hoya
Hatton
Cotto
Clottey
Margarito
Mosley
Bradley (Marquez lost to)
I think Marquez would have lost to Cotto, Clottey and Margarito versions Pacquiao fought.
Hell no man, he already got thoroughly outclassed by Bradley.
He barely beat the shadow of Barrera, you think he'd beat a prime Baby Faced Assassin?
Morales beats him too, Cotto at 147 beats him, Mosley might stop him, Oscar ... dont make me laugh.
he probably manages to squeeze a win over clottey.