He chose instead to sign with Top Rank in order to chase a Pacquiao fight. Since Pac is a tougher opponent and also a bigger payday in no way can anyone say that Bradley was "ducking" Amir Khan.
And Tim has now managed to get not one but two big career paydays against Pac so he obviously made the right move.
I hope you guys say the same about Stevenson jumping to Showtime for more $ and ducking Kovalev, and it will be interesting if you guys ever post a comment complaining about boxing becoming a business and not a sport.
No problem with that, he put his services up for bid, HBO didn't want it because they have no interest in just that fight.
If Stevenson is really about the money, he would put himself up for bid again with HBO actually bidding against Showtime this time. Get a multi-fight deal and set himself up for the future
So Khan didnt duck Alexander for a shot at Floyd right?
Adonis Stevenson isnt a duck too then right? cuz going to Showtime was financially a better deal than risking it with Kovalev.
Evidently Khan was promised a fight, but screwed himself over with a year sitting and Maidana doing something good.
Stevenson went to bidding on a single fight. So, it's only logical that he would put the bigger prize up for bid, a multi-deal with Showtime or HBO after his Fonfara fight.
That's an even better business deal because he'll get paid more with two networks fighting against each other this time and a multi-fight deal
But he could have made $1.8 million against Khan doe. What a ducker!
So long story short, he made about 6 or 7 mill in 2 fights.. Meaning he took a better deal..
I hope you guys say the same about Stevenson jumping to Showtime for more $ and ducking Kovalev, and it will be interesting if you guys ever post a comment complaining about boxing becoming a business and not a sport.
Why do Bradley fans act like he couldn't have beat Amir Khan and then had PPV fights after? In fact, he'd have made more money coming off the Khan win.
This is a guy who was supposed to get $10m in a rematch with Pacquiao and only ended up getting $6m.
He's made a lot of money but he actually could and should have made more.
These people will be crying about Stevenson ducking Kovalev because he jumped to Showtime for more Dollars and say "oh oh i dont care about how much he makes its about the purity of the sport".
At the time Khan-Bradley held similar relevance and would have crowned a Lineal champion.
p.s. I did back Stevenson and still do, but yes he did duck Kovalev.
I think we can agree that 3 ppvs and over 10 million made is not as good as fighting THE Amir Khan
I mean... dude won a silver medal.... what medal did Pac win? The pinakbet meda?
So Khan didnt duck Alexander for a shot at Floyd right?
Adonis Stevenson isnt a duck too then right? cuz going to Showtime was financially a better deal than risking it with Kovalev.
You're talking in hindsight.
There was no other fight he could take that made him that much money, there was no guaranteed Pacquiao fight.
A win over Khan at the time would have actually improved his chances of landing a big Mayweather or Pacquiao fight but in his words "what if i lose".
Pretty much. He beats Khan and he's undisputed champion and the hottest free agent in boxing. There would have been a bidding war for his signature.
Bradley probably lost money in the grand scheme of things. That's of course providing he beat Khan. He obviously didn't think he could do that.
I think we can agree that 3 ppvs and over 10 million made is not as good as fighting THE Amir Khan
Why do Bradley fans act like he couldn't have beat Amir Khan and then had PPV fights after? In fact, he'd have made more money coming off the Khan win.
This is a guy who was supposed to get $10m in a rematch with Pacquiao and only ended up getting $6m.
He's made a lot of money but he actually could and should have made more.
I think we can agree that 3 ppvs and over 10 million made is not as good as fighting THE Amir Khan
I mean... dude won a silver medal.... what medal did Pac win? The pinakbet meda?
So long story short, he made about 6 or 7 mill in 2 fights.. Meaning he took a better deal..
Well no because he could have had an extra $2m+ from the Khan fight.
Like I said, it all boils down to whether he thought he could beat Khan.
So long story short, he made about 6 or 7 mill in 2 fights.. Meaning he took a better deal..
But he could have made $1.8 million against Khan doe. What a ducker!
Yeah. His concrete steps involved ducking Khan, sitting out his contract, ducking Khan again, fighting Casamayor and the luckily getting the Pacquiao fight 1 year later.
So long story short, he made about 6 or 7 mill in 2 fights.. Meaning he took a better deal..
Tim took concrete steps to get the fight. It's not like he was just giving lip service or magically wishing for it to happen.
Exactly. Big difference. Khan was blatantly ducking.
Tim took concrete steps to get the fight. It's not like he was just giving lip service or magically wishing for it to happen.
Yeah. His concrete steps involved ducking Khan, sitting out his contract, ducking Khan again, fighting Casamayor and the luckily getting the Pacquiao fight 1 year later.
Of course it's not. As long as you're "trying to secure" a potential fight at some distant point in the future, you can't be accused of ducking.
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Tim took concrete steps to get the fight. It's not like he was just giving lip service or magically wishing for it to happen.
I'm not a Bradley fan. If you look at my bets I'm actually hoping to win a lot of points off of his fans tomorrow night.
But I do have to call it like I see it.
Tim was trying to secure a fight against a more dangerous fighter than Khan. For a much bigger payday than Khan. That is not ducking in my book.
Of course it's not. As long as you're "trying to secure" a potential fight at some distant point in the future, you can't be accused of ducking.
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Bradley fan made the damn thread. We are just responding.
I'm not a Bradley fan. If you look at my bets I'm actually hoping to win a lot of points off of his fans tomorrow night.
But I do have to call it like I see it.
Tim was trying to secure a fight against a more dangerous fighter than Khan. For a much bigger payday than Khan. That is not ducking in my book.
Just wanted to add some facts..
Bradley called out Pac in 2009 when Pac was the Champion at 140lb..
Now this happen while this had also happened within the same yr..
What facts? So what is that suppose to mean? So what if he has called out Pacquiao before, Khan has done the same with Mayweather prior to this year. The facts are that there was an unofficial tournament going on where winners of Bradley-Alexander and Khan-Maidana would crown a Lineal 140lbs champion, so it was a fight public demanded and 140lbs was hot at the time, but Bradley decided to jump ship or should i say DUCKED.
We move on,Bradley had beat Abregu and Alexander had beat Kotelnik..Khan had beat Paulie M..After the fight(since we like to bring up the what if I lose comment)Khan clearly say's..I'll fight Maidana Bradley and Alexander can fight,then the winners will fight each other..He then turns around and fights Mccloskey..Where he came in from??Oh that's right,that fight came with a 3 fight deal..Meanwhile they expected Bradley to take a Khan fight with no insurances while Khan just got a 3 fight deal..
It was after Bradley quacked out of the then career high Khan offer of $1.4 million is when Khan decided to take a tune up instead.
Why did Bradley fight a shot Casamayor who was barely a shadow of his former self after ducking Khan? At least Mccloskey was an undefeated prospect at the time and young its another thing he turned out to be a bum, but at the time who would have known? Its like not giving Ortiz credit for Berto.
It's clear that TR offered Bradley more then one fight..While Shaw and GBP did not..It's clear he was on the top of the list(being Cotto said he would not fight Pac again,and Pac did not wanna fight Marquez again)to fight Pac..It's clear Bob had showed interest in Bradley before signing him and said as much..
Which all still doesnt change jack about the fact when both Khan and Bradley were an inevitable match at 140lbs it was Bradley who quacked out.
It's clearly not a duck,and why no mention of Khan fighting Mccloskey instead of doing what he said he'd do??Oh and the suppose Mayweather fight,if Khan could have fought Mayweather what happened??Why did that fight not go down yet??Oh that's right the set backs..Losing to Peterson(who Bradley dominated btw)and getting his lights turned out by Garcia..Two fighters everyone and their mothers said was not even in Khans class(some of those same posters I see in this thread funny)..
You are clearly unsure about what is a duck because what Bradley did isnt a duck then please do tell us what is? I hope your example isn't Stevenson-Kovalev cuz that will really debunk your own argument of "Business move".
Peterson was on PEDs, but hey thats all good right. Plus how does Khan's losses to Garcia and Peterson change the fact Bradley ducked Khan? Its so sad you had to resort to a triangle theories: "Oh Bradley beat Peterson who beat Khan". With that logic Khan beat Kotelnik who beat Alexander.
Bradley made a very good busniess decision for himself..Deal with it..Also deal with the fact,Khan fighting Mccloskey open the door for Bradley to not have to fight him..If he'd just went right to the fight with Bradley,and then Bradley ducked him fine..I would agree..To expect Bradley to sign a extension and go into the unknown not knowing,while Khan had a three fight deal(worth close to 4 mill)is not fair and very short sighted..Just thought I'd add my 2 cents..
Stevenson signed with SHOWTIME because he gets more money and has a safer career that way because he can avoid Kovalev, so lets not call that a duck either and lets deal with it.
p.s I want Stevenson to win his fights because he is Canadian, but he ducked Kovalev
Can you point out the untrue part of this post??
Oh the fact that Bradley ducked Khan and you are backing it up with hollow arguments about business move this and diverting the discussion with Khan's losses to peterson and garcia and the triangle theory of bradley beat peterson who beat Khan.
Khan ducked Alexander, but Bradley didnt? Brilliant.
This right here: :lol1:
People can bring race into it all they want, they can flash up Khan pictures all they want, it doesn't change the fact that Bradley admit ducking khan because he didn't want to lose.