Has anyone noticed that Oscar de la Hoya has been positing pictures on Instagram all day of former champions like Salvador Sanchez, mike Tyson, sugar Ray Leonard that never ducked anyone. Clearly this is for mayweather.
You were presented with facts, and yet choose to ignore them in favor of your own twisted logic. You sir, need a chest rub.
:lol1: These characters are too much.
You're pressing the issue for no reason. I told you his reasoning.
He defeated two guys that Oscar has lost to. Vargas lost to Tito Trinidad prior to facing Oscar. There is nothing else to it.
He should have taken the Oscar fight.
Yes but it just goes to show how full of sh1t Winky was back then. "offers everyone 10-15 million" :lol1:
I said I didn't agree with it. Double's advocate talk.
This is Winky's quote:
So, beating the two guys who defeated Oscar, he feels that he is at the vary least entitled to 10 million. But as I said, I don't agree with it.
Who else got 10 - 15 million? Hell Vargas got 6 mill and that fight was twice as big as a Delahoya/Wright fight would've been.
I might have known/read all about this back when it was 'recent news' but forgot all about it since it's not too important. And yes, the Floyd offer seems like it was for record keeping, so that years later they can say that an offer was made to quiet any ducking talk.
If Winky wasn't such a piss poor draw, one could even say that the Oscar offer was a low ball offer which Oscar expected to be turned down. If you ignore any drawing abilities, with Winky beating Tito and Mosley one would think that he deserves more money just for that -- though I don't agree with that. If there was a real offer with a contract, he should've taken it.
I think, aside from Arum playing games here with the split, turning down a 140 pound, undefeated fighter who was going up 2 weight classes to 154 and you(Winky) was gonna go down one weight class, for 55-45 split on a PPV of probably in the very least 500k, was just utterly retarded by Winky/Shaw. I mean Clearly, Floyd was biting off more than he can chew. Despite this, Winky still managed to turn him down. That's something that is just never before seen type of stuff. Turning down a small, pretty popular fighter at the time, cause you were gonna get 5% less than him.
Winky would have been favorite, and highly likely get the W. But he turned it down like he turned down many other offers.
I might have known/read all about this back when it was 'recent news' but forgot all about it since it's not too important. And yes, the Floyd offer seems like it was for record keeping, so that years later they can say that an offer was made to quiet any ducking talk.
If Winky wasn't such a piss poor draw, one could even say that the Oscar offer was a low ball offer which Oscar expected to be turned down. If you ignore any drawing abilities, with Winky beating Tito and Mosley one would think that he deserves more money just for that -- though I don't agree with that. If there was a real offer with a contract, he should've taken it.
6 million is not a lowball offer for a guy like Wright.
Trinidad, at the height of he and Delahoya's powers, only made 10 million.
Winky Wright turned down both De La Hoya and Arum's offer(for Floyd). So much misinformation here.
With that said, I doubt Arum was serious with putting Mayweather, a 140 pounder at the time, in with Winky a JMW, but he made the offer and Winky turned it down. Apparently Arum and Shaw had agreed to 50-50 split, but then Arum changed it 55-45 split in favor of Floyd, Shaw then said no deal. Dosn't sound like a duck, sounds like Arum being Arum. Those are the facts, there are articled backing this up. He also turned down DLH's offer and a Taylor rematch.
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/22/Sports/Wright_Mayweather_bou.shtml
There was no ducking involved here, this was a combination of Arum playing games like always, and Shaw/Winky never agreeing with anything other than a 50-50 split with any fighter.
Winky did what he always did and that's once again walk away from a career high pay day being offered by Mayweather.
Whether it was serious or not, Winky walked away from a career high pay day.
Maybe Winky Wright should tweet back "what about me? You and Floyd ducked me for years".
Shane Mosley was the only one who didn't have the calculated ducking IQ and stepped up to the plate against Winky - even though he barely got by Oscar in the rematch.
Winky Wright turned down both De La Hoya and Arum's offer(for Floyd). So much misinformation here.
With that said, I doubt Arum was serious with putting Mayweather, a 140 pounder at the time, in with Winky a JMW, but he made the offer and Winky turned it down. Apparently Arum and Shaw had agreed to 50-50 split, but then Arum changed it 55-45 split in favor of Floyd, Shaw then said no deal. Dosn't sound like a duck, sounds like Arum being Arum. Those are the facts, there are articled backing this up. He also turned down DLH's offer and a Taylor rematch.
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/22/Sports/Wright_Mayweather_bou.shtml
"I walked in, I told him: "I believe we have a deal,' " Shaw said. "And Bob said, "so it's a deal - 55-45 (money split)'.
"I said, "Bob, that was never, ever discussed, no deal' and that was that."
The day before, Shaw said he and Arum had agreed to a 50-50 purse split as well as other requests from Mayweather's camp. He added that Wright adviser Jim Wilkes and Don King, who has an option on Wright's next fight, agreed as well.
While Shaw said he agreed with just about all of the demands from the Mayweather team, principally regarding weight, he doesn't think the Detroit fighter, a former Olympian, was behind the breakdown.
"I think it's Arum," Shaw said. "When Floyd normally calls someone out, he's serious about fighting them."
"Remember, Floyd called Winky out; Winky didn't call Floyd out," Shaw said. "We were even willing to come down in weight to 154."
There was no ducking involved here, this was a combination of Arum playing games like always, and Shaw/Winky never agreeing with anything other than a 50-50 split with any fighter.
Ok, I see what you two are talking about:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=358622
I'll retract my statement then.
Wright was a master at sabotaging his own career.
I've always thought of Winky as a entitled, spoiled brat with no fanbase (comparing him to Rigo) who wanted the red carpet rolled out in front of him.
But I didn't know that Oscar ever made him an offer. So, I retract my statement.
Yeah it's all good. Nothing wrong with learning some thing new
Winky turns down career highest pay day against both Oscar and Floyd.
"Winky's being ducked"
:lol1:
Winky priced himself out of the Margarito fight and the Jermain Taylor rematch aswell, bare in mind.
Fcuking unreal how Wright somehow pulled this lie off. This is actually WORSE than "Leonard ducking Pryor" storyline.
I follow Oscar on twitter , I don't think he like that Floyd undercard have other top name stars on then. this is probably costing the company too much money
Fall back son, Wright turned down triple his highest payday to avoid Delahoya
Winky turns down career highest pay day against both Oscar and Floyd.
"Winky's being ducked"
:lol1:
Winky priced himself out of the Margarito fight and the Jermain Taylor rematch aswell, bare in mind.
Maybe Winky Wright should tweet back "what about me? You and Floyd ducked me for years".
Shane Mosley was the only one who didn't have the calculated ducking IQ and stepped up to the plate against Winky - even though he barely got by Oscar in the rematch.
:haha:
Fantasy Land sounds amazing.
Maybe Winky Wright should tweet back "what about me? You and Floyd ducked me for years".
Shane Mosley was the only one who didn't have the calculated ducking IQ and stepped up to the plate against Winky - even though he barely got by Oscar in the rematch.
Fall back son, Wright turned down triple his highest payday to avoid Delahoya
I truly dislike Floyd. Inside and outside the ring he is a punk to me...
But...... These ducking claims are so vastly overstated it's not even funny. I don't know why people can't just be real with their opinions. Why the hell is everyone so bias and affected by their emotions.
Lol it's kinda sad when you can literally pinpoint when someone is talking to or trying to send a message to Floyd when ducking is brought up. He's literally the face of ducking/avoiding threats.