A salutation to the warrior Miguel Cotto.

Cotto is a small JR MW FFS!!! A CW in this car isn't the same as when Floyd did it to Canelo. Floyd was actually a champion in that division already. That was lame. In Cotto's case, it was not! One pound are you crying over one pound? I'm not crying about anything. I'm one of the few that give Cotto credit for this win. I'm merely highlighting Bushbaby's blatant and clear hypocrisy.

Cause he didn't get destroyed like either of us thought for starters. Why? Oh I give him credit. But how can you? You don't give anyone credit if the fight was at a catchweight. Do you? Much less if they are the ones demanding it. Will you ever address your blatant hypocrisy or will you forever duck it? From page 1 onward you've not addressed it once.

the bolded is incredible. great work on this! EDIT: you bolded a lot in your original post, i meant his oppositions overall record. :boxing::boxing:

It's Sad fans in NSB get caught to much in the BS. Only boxer I dislike a bit is Floyd. Aside from his life outside the ring I hated the fact that he did not took fights when fans wanted him too. Weird coming from a guy that is all about money. An please don't BS me about it was purpose to make more money later because you will look stupid doing it. And the one I really hate is Margacheato ( And so should everyone else), I learn that the hate for Cotto and some here for Puerto Ricans overall here can care less if MArgie used PLaster or not. They are just happy he beat up Cotto at least one time. Plus the fact that Cotto got his revenge has left them a sour taste in their ego. The only Catch weight Cotto did that I did not like was the Geal fight, he was coming to fight as such a low weight that he had no option to make somewhat fair by making him come down. Fans comments can impact $h!t in my opinion to like or dislike any boxer. :boxing::boxing:

I agree... I have broken down his wins/losses before: lets look at Cotto's losses: Antonio Margarito(36-5): you explained it well. Manny Pacquiao(49-3-2): Possible PEDs.. who knows. Cotto also didn't have anybody in the corner. Like you stated as well they wanted 143, settled on 145. Floyd(42-0): floyd still says it was his toughest fight. I gave cotto 4 rounds (1 really close round the other + 1 swing round) in that one fight. I personally didn't like that the ref let floyd hold Cotto's arm for more than 10 seconds at one point in the fight. Other than that there's really no shame in losing to floyd. Austin Trout(25-0): Trout did his thing. IMO, Cotto probably thought he was "easy work" as some people would say it, mix that with cotto trying to outbox an obvious larger and more rangier fighter spelled disaster for that particular fight. Now lets look at some of his wins: Justin Jukko(36-6-1): TKO'd jukko who was 36-6 and cotto only had 9 pro fights. Cezar Bazan(39-5-1): TKO'd bazan who had a record of 39-5 & cotto only had 13 pro fights Victoriano Sosa(37-3-2): TKO'd sosa who had a record of 37-3 & cotto only had 18 pro fights (also came 3 fights after floyd outpointed sosa) Lovemore Ndou(38-6-1): Decisioned Ndou who had a record of 38-6 & cotto had a record of 19 pro fights Randall Bailey(28-4): another power puncher. Can put anyone's lights out. DeMarcus Corley(29-3-1): underrated fighter. Cotto fought him just 2 fights after floyd did. IMO fight shouldn't have been stopped. Ricardo Torres(28-0): undefeated power puncher who was 28-0 (great fight btw) Gianluca Branco(36-1-1): Cotto 1st and only fighter to stop branco who had a record of 36-1 & cotto had a record of 25-0 Paul Malignaggi(21-0): we know who he is... no power but can outbox fighters Carlos Quintana(23-0): TKO Quintanan who was 23-0 (who later beat paul williams 2 fights later) Zab Judah(34-4): Crushed judah (it was judah's 2nd fight after he fought floyd) Shane Mosley(44-4): Beat mosley (brush will deny this lol) Joshua Clottey:(35-2): beat clottey (I had the fight 114-113 for cotto, brush will deny and give the 1st round 10-8 to clottey even tho cotto got the knockdown) Sergio Martinez(51-2-2): His knee doe, 50% martinez too much doe. Excuses, martinez never faced a fighter like Cotto and got thrashed. Total opponents wins/loss: 1,174W-188L-26D the bolded is incredible. great work on this! EDIT: you bolded a lot in your original post, i meant his oppositions overall record.

Why don't you go make a tread about the great Amir Khan bro? o, you ain't know? they broke up.

I lost all respect for Cotto in the last couple years, he did everything wrong he could possibly do wrong with his Diva behaviour, but some are just totally blinded. He deserves to get knocked out badly once he realizes he isnt in a ring with a cripple, its time he finally loses the belt which he never deserved. Fighting a onelegged old injured cripple guy at a catchweight is one thing, but holding that belt hostage for way too long and ducking his mandatory is just pathetic.

Funny how he calls someone The Great Shane Mosley and then turns around and calls someone a cheating scumbag. LOL typical hypocrites. :lol1: right. "but steroids aren't as bad as (suspected) plaster doe"

After reading some of these posts... I'm trying to figure out why some of these posters think that Cotto is this "come forward" fighter... watch his early fights... he's a pure boxer/puncher and gets more aggressive when he gets you hurt. It's Sad fans in NSB get caught to much in the BS. Only boxer I dislike a bit is Floyd. Aside from his life outside the ring I hated the fact that he did not took fights when fans wanted him too. Weird coming from a guy that is all about money. An please don't BS me about it was purpose to make more money later because you will look stupid doing it. And the one I really hate is Margacheato ( And so should everyone else), I learn that the hate for Cotto and some here for Puerto Ricans overall here can care less if MArgie used PLaster or not. They are just happy he beat up Cotto at least one time. Plus the fact that Cotto got his revenge has left them a sour taste in their ego. The only Catch weight Cotto did that I did not like was the Geal fight, he was coming to fight as such a low weight that he had no option to make somewhat fair by making him come down. Fans comments can impact $h!t in my opinion to like or dislike any boxer.

After reading some of these posts... I'm trying to figure out why some of these posters think that Cotto is this "come forward" fighter... watch his early fights... he's a pure boxer/puncher and gets more aggressive when he gets you hurt.

I agree... I have broken down his wins/losses before: lets look at Cotto's losses: Antonio Margarito(36-5): you explained it well. Manny Pacquiao(49-3-2): Possible PEDs.. who knows. Cotto also didn't have anybody in the corner. Like you stated as well they wanted 143, settled on 145. Floyd(42-0): floyd still says it was his toughest fight. I gave cotto 4 rounds (1 really close round the other + 1 swing round) in that one fight. I personally didn't like that the ref let floyd hold Cotto's arm for more than 10 seconds at one point in the fight. Other than that there's really no shame in losing to floyd. Austin Trout(25-0): Trout did his thing. IMO, Cotto probably thought he was "easy work" as some people would say it, mix that with cotto trying to outbox an obvious larger and more rangier fighter spelled disaster for that particular fight. Now lets look at some of his wins: Justin Jukko(36-6-1): TKO'd jukko who was 36-6 and cotto only had 9 pro fights. Cezar Bazan(39-5-1): TKO'd bazan who had a record of 39-5 & cotto only had 13 pro fights Victoriano Sosa(37-3-2): TKO'd sosa who had a record of 37-3 & cotto only had 18 pro fights (also came 3 fights after floyd outpointed sosa) Lovemore Ndou(38-6-1): Decisioned Ndou who had a record of 38-6 & cotto had a record of 19 pro fights Randall Bailey(28-4): another power puncher. Can put anyone's lights out. DeMarcus Corley(29-3-1): underrated fighter. Cotto fought him just 2 fights after floyd did. IMO fight shouldn't have been stopped. Ricardo Torres(28-0): undefeated power puncher who was 28-0 (great fight btw) Gianluca Branco(36-1-1): Cotto 1st and only fighter to stop branco who had a record of 36-1 & cotto had a record of 25-0 Paul Malignaggi(21-0): we know who he is... no power but can outbox fighters Carlos Quintana(23-0): TKO Quintanan who was 23-0 (who later beat paul williams 2 fights later) Zab Judah(34-4): Crushed judah (it was judah's 2nd fight after he fought floyd) Shane Mosley(44-4): Beat mosley (brush will deny this lol) Joshua Clottey:(35-2): beat clottey (I had the fight 114-113 for cotto, brush will deny and give the 1st round 10-8 to clottey even tho cotto got the knockdown) Sergio Martinez(51-2-2): His knee doe, 50% martinez too much doe. Excuses, martinez never faced a fighter like Cotto and got thrashed. Total opponents wins/loss: 1,174W-188L-26D

Good thread Cotto is a beast

Where to begin?? Miguel Cotto is a warrior, truest form of fighter. He may not have beaten them all, but he damn near fought them all. The fighters on his record are close to mind blowing. Lets start with the great Shane Mosley. I actually thought that Mosley was going to beat Cotto. But Cotto traded shots in the early parts of that fight and boxed well in the 2nd part. Funny thing is I swear it was this fight that took his prime. Then there was the 1st Margarito fight. Now it's important to understand that even past this point no one knew Margarito was a cheating scumbag. Furthermore he was the 2nd most feared welterweight, (behind the Punisher). Yes Cotto took a knee, but no other higher paid fighter fought a better version of Margarito before, nor after. Then there was Clottey, (who hadn't caught diarrhea in the middle of a fight yet). He was still a worthy fighter and Cotto earned a razor thin (W) over him with only 1 peeper. The heart was on display again. Then came the Pacman. There was plenty of controversy surrounding this particular fight. With Roach and co wanting the fight originally at 143 and Cotto settling for 145 thinking his title wouldn't be on the line only be screwed by the bobfather into having it in fact on the line. After a very good 1st and 2nd round Pacman overwhelmed Cotto and beat the fight right out of him. Then came Cotto's chance at retribution against the cheating scumbag Margarito. (Granted Cotto got a lil help from 1st and foremost his good buddy Sugar Shane, followed by an encore by the Pacmyster). From the 1st time they got inside and I saw Miguel muscle Margario back wards and stay in the pocket and throw body shots I knew the night was his. What transpired was a little piece of retribution for all Margario took, (whether fair or not). Personally I believe he cheated. Almost forgot Mayorga. Not cause Mayorga was a beast, but if you're honest, not many fighters get caught with a hook and act like their hand is broken. Cotto did that to a pro fighter. Deserves a mention for sure. The there was the great Floyd Mayweather. Cotto put on a valiant performance and in my eyes fought evenly up until the end of the 8th round where I felt he blew his load. If he had the stamina, I believe he could have won that fight. He did however give Floyd possibly his toughest fight to date. (That says a lot) about the quality of fighter Miguel is. Lastly, Cotto once again is going to fight a highly esteemed fighter. (Even though Martinez has slid off a bit), the 2 greater fighters from around Cotto's weight class probably still wouldn't dare utter the name Maravilla. So once again it's up to Cotto to step up to the plate. I believe this is the last time Cotto walks to the ring for a fight. I expect Martinez to beat him rather soundly. But I hope that all those delusional fans can remember that it was Cotto who fought the likes of Sugar Shane, Margarito, Pacman, Floyd and now Martinez. Even in loss, greater fighters wouldn't dare set foot in the squared circle with such an elite bunch. Thank you Cotto for doing what greater fighters dared not. And going where better fighters feared to thread. Miguel Cotto, I salute you!! http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/282/f/f/miguel_cotto_drawing_final_by_wega13-d5hbqd3.jpg yeah nice thread... this was when I as a fan was actually scared for Cotto going into the fight,fighting a full middleweight who was admittedly on the slide but this guy ko'd the punisher so brutally:nutkick:

Why don't you go make a tread about the great Amir Khan bro? cause that would be retarded. great and amir kahn do not go together at this time. very good fighter but not great. time will tell if he rises to that level

Won a vacant title against a nobody at 140. Won a vacant title against a decent boxer at 147. Beat the amazing Yuri Foreman at 154, in his first defense of a title he won from a weight drained, inactive Santos. Required a CW from an old, cripple Martinez and a CW for his first 2 defenses. Some solid defenses along the way, some he was lucky to get the nod in, like Clottey and Mosley. Overachieved for a 5'7" boxer without Floyd-like speed, but he lost pretty much every time he stepped up to a prime, elite fighter.

Where to begin?? Miguel Cotto is a warrior, truest form of fighter. He may not have beaten them all, but he damn near fought them all. The fighters on his record are close to mind blowing. Lets start with the great Shane Mosley. I actually thought that Mosley was going to beat Cotto. But Cotto traded shots in the early parts of that fight and boxed well in the 2nd part. Funny thing is I swear it was this fight that took his prime. Then there was the 1st Margarito fight. Now it's important to understand that even past this point no one knew Margarito was a cheating scumbag. Furthermore he was the 2nd most feared welterweight, (behind the Punisher). Yes Cotto took a knee, but no other higher paid fighter fought a better version of Margarito before, nor after. Then there was Clottey, (who hadn't caught diarrhea in the middle of a fight yet). He was still a worthy fighter and Cotto earned a razor thin (W) over him with only 1 peeper. The heart was on display again. Then came the Pacman. There was plenty of controversy surrounding this particular fight. With Roach and co wanting the fight originally at 143 and Cotto settling for 145 thinking his title wouldn't be on the line only be screwed by the bobfather into having it in fact on the line. After a very good 1st and 2nd round Pacman overwhelmed Cotto and beat the fight right out of him. Then came Cotto's chance at retribution against the cheating scumbag Margarito. (Granted Cotto got a lil help from 1st and foremost his good buddy Sugar Shane, followed by an encore by the Pacmyster). From the 1st time they got inside and I saw Miguel muscle Margario back wards and stay in the pocket and throw body shots I knew the night was his. What transpired was a little piece of retribution for all Margario took, (whether fair or not). Personally I believe he cheated. Almost forgot Mayorga. Not cause Mayorga was a beast, but if you're honest, not many fighters get caught with a hook and act like their hand is broken. Cotto did that to a pro fighter. Deserves a mention for sure. The there was the great Floyd Mayweather. Cotto put on a valiant performance and in my eyes fought evenly up until the end of the 8th round where I felt he blew his load. If he had the stamina, I believe he could have won that fight. He did however give Floyd possibly his toughest fight to date. (That says a lot) about the quality of fighter Miguel is. Lastly, Cotto once again is going to fight a highly esteemed fighter. (Even though Martinez has slid off a bit), the 2 greater fighters from around Cotto's weight class probably still wouldn't dare utter the name Maravilla. So once again it's up to Cotto to step up to the plate. I believe this is the last time Cotto walks to the ring for a fight. I expect Martinez to beat him rather soundly. But I hope that all those delusional fans can remember that it was Cotto who fought the likes of Sugar Shane, Margarito, Pacman, Floyd and now Martinez. Even in loss, greater fighters wouldn't dare set foot in the squared circle with such an elite bunch. Thank you Cotto for doing what greater fighters dared not. And going where better fighters feared to thread. Miguel Cotto, I salute you!! http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/282/f/f/miguel_cotto_drawing_final_by_wega13-d5hbqd3.jpg green k!!!...GREAT post!!

A true boxer-puncher who has taken on so many great challenges. To think, he was one fight away (Margarito I) from arguably becoming the best fighter in the world. Nevertheless, a HOF'er for sure with a career that's been a joy to watch.

Maybe cos his fans have lame sigs where he's a King (of what?!) sitting on a throne over Margarito who is on his knees after getting dropped by MOSLEY :lol1: Changed it just for you, sweetheart ;)

Cotto is an entertaining fighter who consistenly takes on good opposition. Facing Mosley, Margarito, Clottey, and Pacquiao in a 2 year period was especially impressive. Then he had some softer touches in 2010-11, facing a weak titlist in Yuri, old Mayorga, and one-eyed Plasterito. What does he do to follow it up? Fights Floyd Mayweather.

Cotto is a small JR MW FFS!!! A CW in this car isn't the same as when Floyd did it to Canelo. Floyd was actually a champion in that division already. That was lame. In Cotto's case, it was not! is that why cotto asked margs for a catchweight when cotto was already the champ? was that lame to you as well?