.........champ in a division having been involved in a lineal title fight to then immediately become the universally recognised number 1 in another division the very next bout like Hopkins did after beating Tarver???
i know sugar ray robinson tried but heat exhaustion forced him to quit. (of course super middleweight division wasnt around then but it would have been 2 weight classes if todays divisions existed then)
Armstrong.
Won the featherweight title, went up 4 weight classes in today's standard and won the welterweight title then drop back down two weight classes and won the featherweight in a year.
Kinda blows Hopkins out of the water now, doesn't it?:boxing:
Well considering the "athletes" in those days were chain smokers and binge alcoholics, not really.
Nope. Plus Taylor wasnt undisputed when he fought Hopkins for the 2nd time since he was stripped by someone. So even if you do count that fight as hopkins winning, he wouldnt be undisputed. This is of course besides the fact that he lost both fights to Taylor
Too much fail in this thread
I didn't know the answer so I was asking a question.
Oh great Henry Armstrong in heaven, we salute you:usa2:
Leonard did, Though people seem to be disallowing Henry Armstrong's feat, he jumped from featherweight to welterweight which is similar to today's five weight classes. He however was undisputed with each title... all at the same time.
Nope. Plus Taylor wasnt undisputed when he fought Hopkins for the 2nd time since he was stripped by someone. So even if you do count that fight as hopkins winning, he wouldnt be undisputed. This is of course besides the fact that he lost both fights to Taylor
Too much fail in this thread
fair enough but majority opinion is usually the correct one especially when hopkins isnt winning votes because of his popularity.
IDK about that. I think Hopkins had a few people in his corner at that time. That was like the peak of "can the old warrior beat the new hot young kid". Either way, I dont think anyone thinks it wasnt close. Lewis-Holyfield wasnt close. This was
.........champ in a division having been involved in a lineal title fight to then immediately become the universally recognised number 1 in another division the very next bout like Hopkins did after beating Tarver???
i know sugar ray robinson tried but heat exhaustion forced him to quit. (of course super middleweight division wasnt around then but it would have been 2 weight classes if todays divisions existed then)
Henry Armstrong did it..4 weight divs at today's reckoning, also Barney Ross and very likely several others. Although not a champion, Young Stribling fought professionally at every weight from paper to heavy..
Emile Griffith ....
no. I actually think Taylor won both fights and Im a Hopkins fan. I think he won each by a round if I can remember correctly
fair enough but majority opinion is usually the correct one especially when hopkins isnt winning votes because of his popularity.
Public polls indicate majority opinion is Hopkins won both fights.
Are you a fan that says holyfield drew vs lewis because thats what the record book says? or do you dismiss that and acknowledge the real winner..
no. I actually think Taylor won both fights and Im a Hopkins fan. I think he won each by a round if I can remember correctly
Public polls indicate majority opinion is Hopkins won both fights.
Are you a fan that says holyfield drew vs lewis because thats what the record book says? or do you dismiss that and acknowledge the real winner..
Armstrong didn't need no court of public opinion
this is kinda a cherry picking topic because it has too many stipulations. Its impressive that he went straight up and beat Tarver but he just lost his 2 previous fights to Taylor
Public polls indicate majority opinion is Hopkins won both fights.
Are you a fan that says holyfield drew vs lewis because thats what the record book says? or do you dismiss that and acknowledge the real winner..
this is kinda a cherry picking topic because it has too many stipulations. Its impressive that he went straight up and beat Tarver but he just lost his 2 previous fights to Taylor
PRetty sure Armstrong had quite a few fights before fighting for the WW crown afterr he beat Sarron at FW
Yeah, I probably didn't make clearly as I should have.
But he did hold the featherweight title when he went up to welterweight and when he drop back down to lightweight.
Armstrong.
Won the featherweight title, went up 4 weight classes in today's standard and won the welterweight title then drop back down two weight classes and won the featherweight in a year.
Kinda blows Hopkins out of the water now, doesn't it?:boxing: