Should fighters lose all their money for not making weight?

To be absolutely honest, because Rios isn't very good. Provodnikov wants to make history, thats why he wanted marquez after bradley turned him down. Provodnikov only wants to fight the best because he's doing this for his legacy, not for money. if no marquez then he should absolutely fight Rios? their no better option for him everyone is tied up. Rios is a good win only 2 loses one to one of the best in the world.

This is tough because for some fighters losing 20% of they're purse isn't as bad as losing the actual fight and future money that comes along with winning and moving up . Some may feel a weight advantage can truley help them .I beleive taking the whole purse is too extreme but 20% may be two little . Something like 33% 1/3 is more fair IMO . As far as Salido goes , I think he just couldn't make 126 anymore.

If a fighter loses his entire purse than that affects his whole team, the trainer(s), conditioners, nutritionists, sparring partners etc etc. Seems too harsh to me. I think losing your title and agreeing compensation with the opponent is punishment enough.

Nope, then fights wont happen. Now the promotional company is in breach of contract with the network.

None of you have evern been in tip top shape, dehydrated, training twice a day while still trying to shave off a few pounds. The penalty is fine, boxing is hard enough, sometimes your body shuts down and it becomes impossible to make weight without really destroying yourself. Taking their whole purse would be criminal after the amount of work they put for months. It would be like taking away your entire week's paycheck if you miss a day off work. If you agree that their purse should be taken away entirely you're a f*cked up human being. Try doing a 10th of their work see if you think it's fair. Well if you're in tip top shape and dehydrated yet STILL trying to shed lbs, then u know what that means? You're fighting in the wrong weight class. I have zero sympathy.

These rules are piss weak. I hope Kovalev moves down in weight, shows up at the weigh-ins weighing 165, rehydrates to 185 for the fights, and leaves all your favourite stars at 147, 154, and 160 convulsing on the canvass with a medical crew hovering over them. Then you might realise the importance of fighters making the weight they're supposed to.

I see your point but this is more like a doctor showing up 2 hours late for heart surgery or a lawyer showing up in a t-shirt and ripped jeans for a murder trial. Theses dudes are world champions. To use your analogy, this is like a fast food worker dropping your burger on the ground,stepping on it, and then watching you eat it. As for me,if I screw up at work...people die (not being dramatic,medical profession):boxing::boxing::boxing: You screwing up at work whether your a healthcare worker or a burger picker you still get paid , Now your talking about a surgeon being late was this fighter late to the ring no or someone stomping on a hamburger this is a crime,making weight is not a crime so your argument doesn't hold water. A fighter not making weight is just irresponsible. Many young people are irresponsible when they do their job does this mean we just don't pay them ?

I am in big favor of the fight being canceled and the fighter who missed weight being held responsible financially You are already given HUGE leeway with weigh-ins in boxing, being over weight is unacceptable IMO. So are the day before weigh ins and rehydrating 20 pounds

The current system of fines seems fair enough. A fighter forfeiting his entire purse is draconian...terribly harsh. Salido is 33 years old, and he's been fighting at 126 for twelve years. That's a long time to make such an unnatural weight. Siri hydrated to 147. That gives you just an inkling of what this guy's true weight is. He probably walks around at over 160. At his age, Salido simply can't get safely down to featherweight.

Well then that guy won't fight, since there would be no fight that would screw over the guy who did nothing wrong (no fight no pay for them either) and may still want the fight. It is not a workable solution for the people involved in the sport, it is a cutting off your nose to spite your face strategy.

That's too harsh, too extreme. Being financially penalized and stripped of their belt is enough. At the end of the day, it is up to the other fighter to accept the fight or not.

Sure everyone in the forums is in trememndous shape and can do a full training camp like a pro fighter... Do you really think Salido didn't try? If they didn't make weight the opponent can refuse to fight too you know? Families depend on that money bro not just the fighter, the trainer the conditioning coach etc. No fighter works alone, it's a team effort. You're supposedly in the medical profession you should know how hard it is to make weight considering how long Salido has made 126. He couldn't do it anymore you can't possibly know he didn't try. He f*cked up but I bet you've never made a mistake at work right? No,I'm not in fighting shape now. I understand what Salido should have gone through to make 126 lbs. He should have tried to lose the last 2 lbs and not weigh 135-140 lbs 1 week prior to the fight as people close to him are saying that he weighed.A fighter can easily rehydrate safely now in 24 hours as much as 8-10 lbs and some boxers even more. Chavez Jr showed up camp for Vera I at 206 lbs.(his words). The fight was contarcted at 166 lbs then moved to 168 and then finally 172.That is shameful. When your only job is to be a professional fighter, than be professional about it. Salido got caught trying to make a weight that he simply can no longer make that much seems true.:boxing::boxing::boxing:

If you can't make weight fight in a heavier division. Don't cheat your opponent by coming in over the weight limit. He tried man look how long he defended the title and actually made weight for. He didn't cheat, he was penalized and that was the end of it. If Loma would have felt totally cheated he would've refused the fight, besides Arum could've gotten him another title shot for the vacant spot.

If you can't make weight fight in a heavier division. Don't cheat your opponent by coming in over the weight limit. How many times did salido miss weight in his 12 years at 126?

None of you have evern been in tip top shape, dehydrated, training twice a day while still trying to shave off a few pounds. The penalty is fine, boxing is hard enough, sometimes your body shuts down and it becomes impossible to make weight without really destroying yourself. Taking their whole purse would be criminal after the amount of work they put for months. It would be like taking away your entire week's paycheck if you miss a day off work. If you agree that their purse should be taken away entirely you're a f*cked up human being. Try doing a 10th of their work see if you think it's fair. If you can't make weight fight in a heavier division. Don't cheat your opponent by coming in over the weight limit.

Yeah,actually I have. If you can't make a contracted weight, then don't take the fight. It can be that simple. Not trying to make weight is shamful. It is your JOB. If you don't make weight in an amateur tournament or the Olympics,then you don't get to fight. Be professional.:boxing::boxing::boxing: Sure everyone in the forums is in trememndous shape and can do a full training camp like a pro fighter... Do you really think Salido didn't try? If they didn't make weight the opponent can refuse to fight too you know? Families depend on that money bro not just the fighter, the trainer the conditioning coach etc. No fighter works alone, it's a team effort. You're supposedly in the medical profession you should know how hard it is to make weight considering how long Salido has made 126. He couldn't do it anymore you can't possibly know he didn't try. He f*cked up but I bet you've never made a mistake at work right?

None of you have evern been in tip top shape, dehydrated, training twice a day while still trying to shave off a few pounds. The penalty is fine, boxing is hard enough, sometimes your body shuts down and it becomes impossible to make weight without really destroying yourself. Taking their whole purse would be criminal after the amount of work they put for months. It would be like taking away your entire week's paycheck if you miss a day off work. If you agree that their purse should be taken away entirely you're a f*cked up human being. Try doing a 10th of their work see if you think it's fair. Yeah,actually I have. If you can't make a contracted weight, then don't take the fight. It can be that simple. Not trying to make weight is shamful. It is your JOB. If you don't make weight in an amateur tournament or the Olympics,then you don't get to fight. Be professional.:boxing::boxing::boxing:

None of you have evern been in tip top shape, dehydrated, training twice a day while still trying to shave off a few pounds. The penalty is fine, boxing is hard enough, sometimes your body shuts down and it becomes impossible to make weight without really destroying yourself. Taking their whole purse would be criminal after the amount of work they put for months. It would be like taking away your entire week's paycheck if you miss a day off work. If you agree that their purse should be taken away entirely you're a f*cked up human being. Try doing a 10th of their work see if you think it's fair.

Should you lose your pay check at work for screwing up ? A fighter has to make a living he's fined. When a fast food worker drops a coke does he lose his check for the week ? I see your point but this is more like a doctor showing up 2 hours late for heart surgery or a lawyer showing up in a t-shirt and ripped jeans for a murder trial. Theses dudes are world champions. To use your analogy, this is like a fast food worker dropping your burger on the ground,stepping on it, and then watching you eat it. As for me,if I screw up at work...people die (not being dramatic,medical profession):boxing::boxing::boxing:

I am embarrassed for the sport that I love when a fighter with a 4-8 week training camp can't make weight.As a fighter, you have 2 jobs: (1)to entertain the fans and win convincingly and (2) to make weight. I say that we put a stop to this new cheater's trend and take close to the whole purse.I would let the overweight fighter keep 10 %. For those of you wondering, I thought Lomachenko did not deserve a title shot after 1 fight..what a joke and against a hardened vet like Salido too. It was a bad fight. Fat guy vs a novice. I don't care what his amateur record says, all fighters should earn title shots.:boxing::boxing::boxing: What are your thoughts on this? Should you lose your pay check at work for screwing up ? A fighter has to make a living he's fined. When a fast food worker drops a coke does he lose his check for the week ?