Who would be P4P number 1 right now if Roy Jones was in his prime?

Roy was a businessman as much as Floyd Mayweather is.

Yeah Hopkins, Toney, Malinga, Tate, Castro etc were all toilet cleaners. Log off Also Virgil hill and mike mccallum. Haha I don't know how people can downplay his record

Is this a serious question? Would Floyd dominate the 70s? Would Wlad beat Ali? Could tyson clean out the HW division of the 60s? ....... No one knows! Nobody can give an answer to this. Nothing but a fantasy land opinion

True. The fact that its even a debate is proof enough. I cant imagine ggg, pavlik, taylor, martinez etc going to hw well, to be fair to those guys, just because Roy fought at that weight doesnt mean he is just like them. Look at your sig & avy. Roy was a solid 200 pounds for the Ruiz fight. Those guys cant get close to that

True. The fact that its even a debate is proof enough. I cant imagine ggg, pavlik, taylor, martinez etc going to hw Martinez can barely hack Middleweight, Taylor couldn't hack 168 (no offense to them, Roy is a fighter no one will ever get the chance to see again. Glad I did!)

If he had the balls to fight any of the top fighters. Those divisions were stacked when Roy was top dog and he somehow ended up fighting toilet cleaners 90% of the time. Yeah Hopkins, Toney, Malinga, Tate, Castro etc were all toilet cleaners. Log off

OK, name some HWs Roy could beat.

Roy Jones Jr.

If Roy Jones was in his prime he'd be #1 in any era, to be honest. He's the most impressive fighter of all time, IMO.

roy was slow at heavyweight, ruiz was hitting him Wtf? Roy got hit about 5 times in 12 rounds and was quick as hell.

Roy Jones, his ability to put on a show whilst facing the level of opposition we have today would have grant him that. Beating fighters up while showboating, can it get better than that?

The fact that were talking about how a fighter who was primed at 160-168 against excellent heavyweights tells you where he would be on a P4P list.

It is so absolutely nothing like that in any way. Roy fought at heavyweight. He pretty easily beat one of the more consistently competitive heavyweights of the 2000s. To say he could manage to beat David Haye is plenty reasonable. Maybe Haye knocks him out, maybe not, but to completely dismiss the idea Roy would win is plain overrating David Haye. haye would spark roy honestly can't see a possibility of him winning roy was slow at heavyweight, ruiz was hitting him, david haye is a huge puncher, he's taller than ruiz and alot faster no way roy wins, if he somehow managed i'd have to consider him some sort of demigod

You thing I'm a Haye fan? haha why because I'm English? I don't mind the guy but I'm not exactly a fan. I'm actually a much bigger fan of Roy Jones. However, I don't feel the need to overrate him like everyone else on this forum. As I've explained in my edit, your original point was ridiculous. It is akin to saying that the best defensive fighters of their time - people like Whitaker, Locche, Pep and Mayweather - would not be knocked out by the heavyweights of their time. After all, if the people in their weightclasses could not catch them how could heavyweights? It is so absolutely nothing like that in any way. Roy fought at heavyweight. He pretty easily beat one of the more consistently competitive heavyweights of the 2000s. To say he could manage to beat David Haye is plenty reasonable. Maybe Haye knocks him out, maybe not, but to completely dismiss the idea Roy would win is plain overrating David Haye.

If Sugar Ray Robinson was alive and still prime where would he rank p4p??? Below Jones at #2

boy you got whiney real quick didnt you? the only overrating going on right now is by a Haye fan talkin about beating a prime Roy Jones You thing I'm a Haye fan? haha why because I'm English? I don't mind the guy but I'm not exactly a fan. I'm actually a much bigger fan of Roy Jones. However, I don't feel the need to overrate him like everyone else on this forum. As I've explained in my edit, your original point was ridiculous. It is akin to saying that the best defensive fighters of their time - people like Whitaker, Locche, Pep and Mayweather - would not be knocked out by the heavyweights of their time. After all, if the people in their weightclasses could not catch them how could heavyweights?

Roy Jones jr would make Andre Fraud look like a bum.

Unfortunately as much as I love RJJ, he wouldn't fight Kovalev, or Stevenson, or Golovkin!! People love to call Floyd a ducker and forget he learned everything he knew from Roy! :rofl: Roy beat better fighters than all those guys when they were ranked contenders. Please sit down.

you must have not watched a prime Roy Jones then...there were middleweights that had problems catching him and you're telling me Haye would? This reply is absolutely ridiculous. By this logic Pernell Whitaker, Nicolino Locche and Floyd Mayweather should be/ should have competitive with heavyweights and wouldn't get knocked out because they don't/didn't get caught much at the lower weights so the higher weights would be no problem. By this logic Floyd Mayweather would survive 12 rounds with Haye. After all, he's got better defence that Roy did. Keep convincing yourself that Roy Jones was the best thing since sliced bread and that he could beat every heavy apart from the Klitschko's. He only beat John 'The slow man' Ruiz. Roy was a great fighter but people tend to overrate him a bit. Judging by what people say on this site Roy Jones beats everybody in history (every weight class) 120-108 or wider or knocks them out. Lennox Lewis was slower than Haye. Surely Roy could just evade all his shots and get a decision then?

Roy especially if he was at 160-168... I think currently at 175, kovolev would be a very tough out for roy Unfortunately as much as I love RJJ, he wouldn't fight Kovalev, or Stevenson, or Golovkin!! People love to call Floyd a ducker and forget he learned everything he knew from Roy!