Golovkin vs Adama - Master Thread

Let's listen to the opinion of someone who's been in the ring with both Golovkin and Ward : The **** this dude think this is? NPR? Say it wit yo chest!

Boxrec rankings is a points system that really doesn't reflect who the best are at a weight class. For example, look at their P4P list. Wlad #3 Alvarez #6 Froch #8 Hopkins #9 Golovkin in front of Pacquiao #12 and #13 respectively Pulev #14, what has he done? Matthysse #16 Rigondeaux inexplicably at #19 Lara #20 Donaire is not in my top 10, but #23 is overkill, he's at least top 15 Yeah how the **** is Canelo so high on there lol

BoxRec has Adama ranked at #12. Boxrec rankings is a points system that really doesn't reflect who the best are at a weight class. For example, look at their P4P list. Wlad #3 Alvarez #6 Froch #8 Hopkins #9 Golovkin in front of Pacquiao #12 and #13 respectively Pulev #14, what has he done? Matthysse #16 Rigondeaux inexplicably at #19 Lara #20 Donaire is not in my top 10, but #23 is overkill, he's at least top 15

Not only Andre Ward, but also Froch, Kessler, Groves, and probably even Bika. 168 is full of fighters that I am sure would beat Golovkin fairly easily. Let's listen to the opinion of someone who's been in the ring with both Golovkin and Ward :

Not only Andre Ward, but also Froch, Kessler, Groves, and probably even Bika. 168 is full of fighters that I am sure would beat Golovkin fairly easily. Adama wasn't even a top 20 MW. Golovkin is ranked #1. Of course expectations would be high. According to what? I thought Ring only ranks the top 10 and BoxRec has Adama ranked at #12.

Trust me if Stevens or Adama had the hyping management of Gbp they would be undefeated just like canelo lol Ok now you're just being ridiculous.

No way in hell is he more accomplished than Cotto. Martinez is incredibly overrated imo. It is funny he has looked bad in almost all of his fights except for the Paul Williams 2nd fight yet he didn't get nearly as much criticism as Golovkin does when he beats on someone and KOs them but gets hit a couple times. Yeah he gets hit but what fighter doesn't? Hell he dominated and embarrassed Chavez Jr. other than the last half of the 12th round but one Knockdown doesn't erase the his dominance over 11 rounds. He's fought legit middleweight and always comes out on top as the Lineal Middleweight champ. That in itself is more than what Cotto has accomplished in his career.

No way in hell is he more accomplished than Cotto. Martinez is incredibly overrated imo. It is funny he has looked bad in almost all of his fights except for the Paul Williams 2nd fight yet he didn't get nearly as much criticism as Golovkin does when he beats on someone and KOs them but gets hit a couple times. Martinez is the lineal middleweight champion with 6 defenses. Nothing overrated about that. He also should have a KO win over Cintron at 154. His only losses to Margarito (baby Martinez) and Williams (close and avenged). Martinez does not look bad in his fights, Murray being the exception. Tell me, when has Cotto ever been lineal champion in any division? When has Cotto beaten fighters with 10-20 pounds on him? Or who were top 5 P4P? Martinez is ranked pretty fairly in my opinion. A probably hall of famer who has been one of the top fighters in the world for a few years.

Yet I've said multiple times I wasn't impressed with the Cotto win. I'm sorry I'm not impressed by wins over Stevens and Adama but am impressed with a win over Canelo. :thinking: Trust me if Stevens or Adama had the hyping management of Gbp they would be undefeated just like canelo lol

While I agree Martinez should be fighting GGG I wouldn't go as far as calling him an overrated joke specially when comparing him to guy like Cotto and Golovkin. He's definitely the more accomplished of the three. No way in hell is he more accomplished than Cotto. Martinez is incredibly overrated imo. It is funny he has looked bad in almost all of his fights except for the Paul Williams 2nd fight yet he didn't get nearly as much criticism as Golovkin does when he beats on someone and KOs them but gets hit a couple times. edit: this post was terribly worded lmao. I can barely understand it my bad.

Ur a bias and a easily impressed Floyd fan Yet I've said multiple times I wasn't impressed with the Cotto win. I'm sorry I'm not impressed by wins over Stevens and Adama but am impressed with a win over Canelo. :thinking:

So am I biased or am I underestimating? :lol1: Most of the world thought that the fight was at the very least threatening to some degree. Again I really don't understand what you're trying to say here it's like you're just thinking of something and saying it for the sake of it. I was impressed with the Canelo win, not so much with the Cotto win. I was impressed by Golovkin's win over Macklin, not so much with Stevens or Adama. What's the point and where's the connection you're trying to make? Ur a bias and a easily impressed Floyd fan I bet everyday u wish u can personally put bandage when Floyd gets a bobo :)

My glob, Golovkin would lose to Andre Ward, one of the 3 best fighters on the planet!? What a bum! Come on, people. Not only Andre Ward, but also Froch, Kessler, Groves, and probably even Bika. 168 is full of fighters that I am sure would beat Golovkin fairly easily. Expectations are through the roof. Adama wasn't even a top 20 MW. Golovkin is ranked #1. Of course expectations would be high.

Why are we even talking about Ward? How is Martinez getting such a pass, we should be talking about how he is holding the MW belt hostage. The guy is a joke and has always been overrated as hell can't wait till either Cotto or GGG beats the hell out of that fraud. While I agree Martinez should be fighting GGG I wouldn't go as far as calling him an overrated joke specially when comparing him to guy like Cotto and Golovkin. He's definitely the more accomplished of the three.

Why are we even talking about Ward? How is Martinez getting such a pass, we should be talking about how he is holding the MW belt hostage. The guy is a joke and has always been overrated as hell can't wait till either Cotto or GGG beats the hell out of that fraud.

Another wasted fight on an irrelevant fighter. It's a shame to watch GGG fight these low level fighters in his physical prime knowing he's at the peak of his physical abilities. It's obvious no one legitimate at middleweight wants to fight so why even bother sticking around this division. Up or down he's not that big a mw he can probably fight good opponents at jr.mw.

Golovkin is world level, more so than Ward actually, considering he has fought far more internationally. To date Ward has the better world level accomplishments, either amateur or pro. It's not even debatable.

Ward isn't anywhere near approaching the fictional character you are talking about. Golovkin is world level, more so than Ward actually, considering he has fought far more internationally. You cant be serious,,,,, Just because ggg has fought in other countries vs foreign journeymen or fringe contenders does not make him worldly Ward has beaten the best international fighters like froch, kessler, bika, abraham and they are a whole helluva lot better than macklin, stevens, adama

Even if a division is awful, a fighter can still be elite relative to the division. But thanks for outing yourself as a hater, there's nobody good at 160 so you won't give GGG credit unless he moves up, got it. :lol1: Yeah they can be but it doesn't mean they are. Lovely how you duck the rest of my post again...:rofl: Who are these elite guys?

GGG is doing what he needs/suppose to do vs this caliber of fighters,, None of the big names are very willing to fight him, though that may change as GGG has built his name up alot on HBO over the past year or so