Hey Robert, for one, I don't understand why you are mad at Cubans for become residents in your country LEGALLY. It's your country's law, not ours. Maybe you should focus on those nationalities that are here in ILLEGALLY.
Also, No, we don't have it easy because unlike other nationalities that come to this country, we dont get to make our money and go back to our family and normal life back home.
And listen I get it, if Joel Casamayor had whopped my ass the way he did you, I'd be mad at Cubans too, and yes I know, another Cuban in Rigondeaux beating your top fighter problably didn't help either.
Yeah, Batista was an animal. That's partly why Castro was able to rally enough support for a revolution. It didn't take long for people to realize that Castro was more of the same. But since Castro was smart enough to implement some positive change, many people came to see him as the lesser evil. I understand that viewpoint. What I don't understand is how people can actually support him to this day.
Well just like science they say things change one death at a time and the hardliners of course are the older generation. While the brainwashing starts at a very young age most young kids and adults are getting tired of the same, and have a different feeling towards the government the feeling of "Our saviors" is gone, and having no future really no matter how good you are at what you do it starting to get to people.
Unfortunately they have a great weapon to keep the Cuban people rallied enough around the government, and that is the "Great Evil Empire the United States that has put punishing criminal embargo to crush our peaceful Island and wishes to control Cuba".
Much like in other countries the way to sustain your regime is to find an enemy(usually the united states), and then unite your people against them, and that's why the embargo helps the regime more than it does any damage to it really. They don't really want that lifted ever in reality they need that tool to claim moral high ground etc. Ending the embargo would be the end of Cuba as they know it, and trust me that scares the crap out of Government because if there is no big bad wolf to point to and blame then they actually have to deal with people looking inward to their situation, and blaming the government.
Close enough good assessment, but a lot of people under estimate just how much of a fascist pig Batista was. He was Cuba's homicidal pimp, and the whole country was his whore to exploit as he saw fit. That's why Castro was seen as such a hero then. Fulgencio Batista was such a pr*ck that he killed anywhere from 20 to 50 thousand Cubans (not to mention how many he tortured) to keep power, just another strong arm dictator puppet, but he was the kind the US liked the type that would do what they wanted so they didn't give 2 sh*ts about the Cuban people, a policy which prevails today.
Yeah, Batista was an animal. That's partly why Castro was able to rally enough support for a revolution. It didn't take long for people to realize that Castro was more of the same. But since Castro was smart enough to implement some positive change, many people came to see him as the lesser evil. I understand that viewpoint. What I don't understand is how people can actually support him to this day.
Im not expert on cuba, but some of these posts are the stupidest things i have ever read..
Here is my open-minded, non-biased opinion on the matter
1. Revolution was probably good when it happened,
2. Castro ruined things by becoming a dictator and not putting in a democracy for the new government,,, It would be like if george washington won the revolt. war and then then was president for life, and then his brother after him etc.
Nobody with any common sense, knows that a dictatorship is horrible
3. The USA embargo on Cuba was fine for the first few years, Stuff like that happens all the time in world politics, but to have it last over 50 years is insane,,,, the USA should have eased restrictions a long time ago, its insane to have it still in affect, and only hurts the poor of cuba, it does nothing to hurt Castro and company,, they still living large
4. If Cuba was so good with Castro, then why the hell do people risk lives in shark infested waters to get to america,,, That has to be the most telling factor of how awful life in Cuba is... USA isnt perfect by any means but you dont see americans risking their lives to flee america
5. To the idiot that says Cuba is a good place to live, Communism provides 3 meals a day, and people can purse whatever they want in live,,, That is just not true,,, if true how come their professional athletes arent allowed to go to other countries as a professional, like dominican republic guys going to pro baseball in the states,,,
6. Communism is horrible,,, The guys in charge will have all the benefits and there is no middle class, and only rich leaders, and poor public,,,, no matter where it is,,,,
free markets and democracy are the best tools for a society,, Yes they arent perfect and the USA has been basically overthrown by corporations, but not because of capitalism and democracy, it is because politicians and business leaders have sold out the middle class by shipping jobs to under-developed countries for low slave wages which ultimately will ruin USA, and will pretty much turn the whole world into the Rich leaders, and everyone else, with no chance to rise or drop from different classes
7. Pre-revolution Cuba was like Vegas,,, alot of crooks, alot of poor people, alot of money flowing around, economic hotbed, but post revolution its just poor people with no economic growth and everything controlled by the state
Good post. I've said much of this myself. I have no problem with people expressing their views, but none of those that have supported communism have actually lived in a communist society, much less Cuba.
Im not expert on cuba, but some of these posts are the stupidest things i have ever read..
Here is my open-minded, non-biased opinion on the matter
1. Revolution was probably good when it happened,
2. Castro ruined things by becoming a dictator and not putting in a democracy for the new government,,, It would be like if george washington won the revolt. war and then then was president for life, and then his brother after him etc.
Nobody with any common sense, knows that a dictatorship is horrible
3. The USA embargo on Cuba was fine for the first few years, Stuff like that happens all the time in world politics, but to have it last over 50 years is insane,,,, the USA should have eased restrictions a long time ago, its insane to have it still in affect, and only hurts the poor of cuba, it does nothing to hurt Castro and company,, they still living large
4. If Cuba was so good with Castro, then why the hell do people risk lives in shark infested waters to get to america,,, That has to be the most telling factor of how awful life in Cuba is... USA isnt perfect by any means but you dont see americans risking their lives to flee america
5. To the idiot that says Cuba is a good place to live, Communism provides 3 meals a day, and people can purse whatever they want in live,,, That is just not true,,, if true how come their professional athletes arent allowed to go to other countries as a professional, like dominican republic guys going to pro baseball in the states,,,
6. Communism is horrible,,, The guys in charge will have all the benefits and there is no middle class, and only rich leaders, and poor public,,,, no matter where it is,,,,
free markets and democracy are the best tools for a society,, Yes they arent perfect and the USA has been basically overthrown by corporations, but not because of capitalism and democracy, it is because politicians and business leaders have sold out the middle class by shipping jobs to under-developed countries for low slave wages which ultimately will ruin USA, and will pretty much turn the whole world into the Rich leaders, and everyone else, with no chance to rise or drop from different classes
7. Pre-revolution Cuba was like Vegas,,, alot of crooks, alot of poor people, alot of money flowing around, economic hotbed, but post revolution its just poor people with no economic growth and everything controlled by the stateRight on it my brother...
Close enough good assessment, but a lot of people under estimate just how much of a fascist pig Batista was. He was Cuba's homicidal pimp, and the whole country was his whore to exploit as he saw fit. That's why Castro was seen as such a hero then. Fulgencio Batista was such a pr*ck that he killed anywhere from 20 to 50 thousand Cubans (not to mention how many he tortured) to keep power, just another strong arm dictator puppet, but he was the kind the US liked the type that would do what they wanted so they didn't give 2 sh*ts about the Cuban people, a policy which prevails today.
Im not trying to defend bautista in any way,,,, Castro and Che were legit when it happened,, i have no qualms with people revolting, the thing is that they turned into dictators instead of bringing democracy,,, Castro could have been like cuba's version of george washington, but instead he is just a dictator...
That is my biggest beef
Im not expert on cuba, but some of these posts are the stupidest things i have ever read..
Here is my open-minded, non-biased opinion on the matter
1. Revolution was probably good when it happened,
2. Castro ruined things by becoming a dictator and not putting in a democracy for the new government,,, It would be like if george washington won the revolt. war and then then was president for life, and then his brother after him etc.
Nobody with any common sense, knows that a dictatorship is horrible
3. The USA embargo on Cuba was fine for the first few years, Stuff like that happens all the time in world politics, but to have it last over 50 years is insane,,,, the USA should have eased restrictions a long time ago, its insane to have it still in affect, and only hurts the poor of cuba, it does nothing to hurt Castro and company,, they still living large
4. If Cuba was so good with Castro, then why the hell do people risk lives in shark infested waters to get to america,,, That has to be the most telling factor of how awful life in Cuba is... USA isnt perfect by any means but you dont see americans risking their lives to flee america
5. To the idiot that says Cuba is a good place to live, Communism provides 3 meals a day, and people can purse whatever they want in live,,, That is just not true,,, if true how come their professional athletes arent allowed to go to other countries as a professional, like dominican republic guys going to pro baseball in the states,,,
6. Communism is horrible,,, The guys in charge will have all the benefits and there is no middle class, and only rich leaders, and poor public,,,, no matter where it is,,,,
free markets and democracy are the best tools for a society,, Yes they arent perfect and the USA has been basically overthrown by corporations, but not because of capitalism and democracy, it is because politicians and business leaders have sold out the middle class by shipping jobs to under-developed countries for low slave wages which ultimately will ruin USA, and will pretty much turn the whole world into the Rich leaders, and everyone else, with no chance to rise or drop from different classes
7. Pre-revolution Cuba was like Vegas,,, alot of crooks, alot of poor people, alot of money flowing around, economic hotbed, but post revolution its just poor people with no economic growth and everything controlled by the state
Close enough good assessment, but a lot of people under estimate just how much of a fascist pig Batista was. He was Cuba's homicidal pimp, and the whole country was his whore to exploit as he saw fit. That's why Castro was seen as such a hero then. Fulgencio Batista was such a pr*ck that he killed anywhere from 20 to 50 thousand Cubans (not to mention how many he tortured) to keep power, just another strong arm dictator puppet, but he was the kind the US liked the type that would do what they wanted so they didn't give 2 sh*ts about the Cuban people, a policy which prevails today.
Im not expert on cuba, but some of these posts are the stupidest things i have ever read..
Here is my open-minded, non-biased opinion on the matter
1. Revolution was probably good when it happened,
2. Castro ruined things by becoming a dictator and not putting in a democracy for the new government,,, It would be like if george washington won the revolt. war and then then was president for life, and then his brother after him etc.
Nobody with any common sense, knows that a dictatorship is horrible
3. The USA embargo on Cuba was fine for the first few years, Stuff like that happens all the time in world politics, but to have it last over 50 years is insane,,,, the USA should have eased restrictions a long time ago, its insane to have it still in affect, and only hurts the poor of cuba, it does nothing to hurt Castro and company,, they still living large
4. If Cuba was so good with Castro, then why the hell do people risk lives in shark infested waters to get to america,,, That has to be the most telling factor of how awful life in Cuba is... USA isnt perfect by any means but you dont see americans risking their lives to flee america
5. To the idiot that says Cuba is a good place to live, Communism provides 3 meals a day, and people can purse whatever they want in live,,, That is just not true,,, if true how come their professional athletes arent allowed to go to other countries as a professional, like dominican republic guys going to pro baseball in the states,,,
6. Communism is horrible,,, The guys in charge will have all the benefits and there is no middle class, and only rich leaders, and poor public,,,, no matter where it is,,,,
free markets and democracy are the best tools for a society,, Yes they arent perfect and the USA has been basically overthrown by corporations, but not because of capitalism and democracy, it is because politicians and business leaders have sold out the middle class by shipping jobs to under-developed countries for low slave wages which ultimately will ruin USA, and will pretty much turn the whole world into the Rich leaders, and everyone else, with no chance to rise or drop from different classes
7. Pre-revolution Cuba was like Vegas,,, alot of crooks, alot of poor people, alot of money flowing around, economic hotbed, but post revolution its just poor people with no economic growth and everything controlled by the state
100% agree with this post.:cool2:
A message to Robert Garcia, from another Cuban:
Go f*ck yourself scumbag. And take Sally Sh*tbag with you so he can record it.
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Im not expert on cuba, but some of these posts are the stupidest things i have ever read..
Here is my open-minded, non-biased opinion on the matter
1. Revolution was probably good when it happened,
2. Castro ruined things by becoming a dictator and not putting in a democracy for the new government,,, It would be like if george washington won the revolt. war and then then was president for life, and then his brother after him etc.
Nobody with any common sense, knows that a dictatorship is horrible
3. The USA embargo on Cuba was fine for the first few years, Stuff like that happens all the time in world politics, but to have it last over 50 years is insane,,,, the USA should have eased restrictions a long time ago, its insane to have it still in affect, and only hurts the poor of cuba, it does nothing to hurt Castro and company,, they still living large
4. If Cuba was so good with Castro, then why the hell do people risk lives in shark infested waters to get to america,,, That has to be the most telling factor of how awful life in Cuba is... USA isnt perfect by any means but you dont see americans risking their lives to flee america
5. To the idiot that says Cuba is a good place to live, Communism provides 3 meals a day, and people can purse whatever they want in live,,, That is just not true,,, if true how come their professional athletes arent allowed to go to other countries as a professional, like dominican republic guys going to pro baseball in the states,,,
6. Communism is horrible,,, The guys in charge will have all the benefits and there is no middle class, and only rich leaders, and poor public,,,, no matter where it is,,,,
free markets and democracy are the best tools for a society,, Yes they arent perfect and the USA has been basically overthrown by corporations, but not because of capitalism and democracy, it is because politicians and business leaders have sold out the middle class by shipping jobs to under-developed countries for low slave wages which ultimately will ruin USA, and will pretty much turn the whole world into the Rich leaders, and everyone else, with no chance to rise or drop from different classes
7. Pre-revolution Cuba was like Vegas,,, alot of crooks, alot of poor people, alot of money flowing around, economic hotbed, but post revolution its just poor people with no economic growth and everything controlled by the state
you think people fleeing cuba would get accepted freely had castro not ruled the country?...US hates castro reason why cubans who file for political asylum gets treated well..weLL , arent the government's job to better the lives of many ?..whch is more in a 3rd world country, rich or poor?..If we didn't have castro we will not be fleeing, we love our Island and pre-commie we had it made...
So, you're attacking a whole group of people over one comment made by a guy who happens to be American? Way to show how intelligent you are...What group?
what robert garcia said is wrong and offensive..
but for my cuban american brothers or cubans who are now in the states , thank castro brothers ..coz without the asylum laws it would'nt be as easy to stay in the US ...How many Cubans did you heard left the Island pre-castro?
Hey Robert, for one, I don't understand why you are mad at Cubans for become residents in your country LEGALLY. It's your country's law, not ours. Maybe you should focus on those nationalities that are here in ILLEGALLY.
Also, No, we don't have it easy because unlike other nationalities that come to this country, we dont get to make our money and go back to our family and normal life back home.
And listen I get it, if Joel Casamayor had whopped my ass the way he did you, I'd be mad at Cubans too, and yes I know, another Cuban in Rigondeaux beating your top fighter problably didn't help either.
So, you're attacking a whole group of people over one comment made by a guy who happens to be American? Way to show how intelligent you are...
the pattern is obvious:
Robert vs Casamayor (owned)
Donaire vs Rigondeaux (owned)
Rios vs Abril (owned for ppl who actually had eyes open)
Mikey vs Gamboa (most definitely owned)
Though I dont belong to either of the communities but their fiters contribute to boxing in their own ways and i respect that, but Garcia's comments were petty and desperate starting a friction amongst two groups for no real reason, just one guy's comments and hopefully Gamboa lays out Mikey.
I prefer Cuban boxing style over the Mexican, Mikey Garcia will beat Gamboa in my opinion, but he will easily lose to the the likes of Donaire or Rigondeaux !
M.Garcia is one of my favourite active boxers indeed, he doesn't adopt the Mexican style in boxing