ok, obviously ortiz getting ko'd by Collazo was a worst case scenario..
If Ortiz keeps fighting, GBP should just cash this dude ASAP
I dont think anyone would be upset if say ortiz-broner was on the floyd undercard, or ortiz-berto 2, ortiz-thurman, etc
They need to cash this guy out in 2014
So your saying u would have no interest with Ortiz-broner or Devon on Floyd's may undercard
I'm saying I have no interest in that victor Ortiz that we seen last night against broner. U can't just get caught up in a fighter with a big name. If he's that disinterested in the sport that he can't beat luis collazo? Do you think he could beat broner or devon? All i know is victor had a choice last night when the ref was counting to ten to get up and fight his way back to credibility or stay down and let all the negativity continue. As a fan of the sport really don't want to see any of mr.ortiz again
Totally understand your view, but if I'm gbp and it's my job to make money on fights and I invested years and millions into his career, i sure as hell just wouldn't let him go without extracting every last cent... Cash him out vs broner, then khan, Berto rematch,,, if he loses all 3 then he is done but at least u built up broner and Kahn again, and gave Berto a win on tv
Broner on the Floyd Kahn undercard
Khan at wembley after he loses to Floyd
Berto 2 on a November triple header
Gomez in 2015 as gomez's first headline on fnf or showtime main card
So your saying u would have no interest with Ortiz-broner or Devon on Floyd's may undercard
I'm saying I have no interest in that victor Ortiz that we seen last night against broner. U can't just get caught up in a fighter with a big name. If he's that disinterested in the sport that he can't beat luis collazo? Do you think he could beat broner or devon? All i know is victor had a choice last night when the ref was counting to ten to get up and fight his way back to credibility or stay down and let all the negativity continue. As a fan of the sport really don't want to see any of mr.ortiz again
Its no different than scheduling them against TBAs at this point in where Ortiz is at but if he wants to make some money for getting beaten up then that is up to him I guess.
Ortiz is such a risk, why waste him on tba... Just put his name value vs a guy u want to build back up like ghost, khan, broner
Tba brings no money or excitement...
If broner vs Ortiz was signed, or Ortiz vs khan,, there would be a million threads about it... Ortiz has little use at this point except his name
Its too late he just got stopped in 2 and quit against Collazo, there is nothing to cash out because there is no way to sell him as a viable opponent his only win of note was Berto who was also ko'd recently.
Look, Ortiz is going to headline anytime soon, but I would feed him to all my big names coming off losses,,, broner, ghost, Devon, khan, soto karass...
Ortiz vs any of those guys would be great as a PPv opener
For what tho? He lasted 2 rounds with collazo? Are u serious. Do you realize how bad of a Loss that is? Luis is a decent fighter, but there's no way in hell a fighter with Ortiz skill level should lose that bad? Collazo has NEVER been know as a guy with devastating ko power. Yet he took out Ortiz 3G style. He shouldn't be in the ring, for the simple fact that his heart isn't in the sport and instead of him getting another big payday against those fighters you named why not just give it to somebody who deserves it and will go out there and give it his all and not act like a fn girl any time he gets hit. The boxing world is no place for somebody like victor Ortiz.
So your saying u would have no interest with Ortiz-broner or Devon on Floyd's may undercard
It's obvious that he was trying to protect his jaw last night. I think it's over for him, the way he turn his back after getting caught and didn't get up.
He looked incredibly robotic and non skilled last night before the KO. He was simply swinging for the fences. Cash out time is long gone.
Even his biggest supporter, Oscar himself, called for him to turn his gloves in and walk away.
Who knows, maybe Ortiz would be better suited in the underdog role. Obviously he has some good tools to work with. Mental fortitude has been his biggest hurdle by miles.
But in the heavy favorite role -- he has been atrocious. Some guys just crumble underneath of the pressure of being "the guy".
you guys wouldnt want to see ortiz-broner,, ortiz-berto 2, ortiz-khan, etc
Just throw him in with name fighters on the undercards,, He still has value since ortiz is always entertaining regardless if he wins or loses or quits
For what tho? He lasted 2 rounds with collazo? Are u serious. Do you realize how bad of a Loss that is? Luis is a decent fighter, but there's no way in hell a fighter with Ortiz skill level should lose that bad? Collazo has NEVER been know as a guy with devastating ko power. Yet he took out Ortiz 3G style. He shouldn't be in the ring, for the simple fact that his heart isn't in the sport and instead of him getting another big payday against those fighters you named why not just give it to somebody who deserves it and will go out there and give it his all and not act like a fn girl any time he gets hit. The boxing world is no place for somebody like victor Ortiz.
ok, obviously ortiz getting ko'd by Collazo was a worst case scenario..
If Ortiz keeps fighting, GBP should just cash this dude ASAP
I dont think anyone would be upset if say ortiz-broner was on the floyd undercard, or ortiz-berto 2, ortiz-thurman, etc
They need to cash this guy out in 2014
I heard Oscar already said in not so many word.
I can accept Ortiz-Berto 2 because their careers are in the basement. He who loses should seriously think about retirement.
Totally agree, that is the one that makes the most sense, or broner since he is coming off a loss, or ghost, devon, or khan if he loses to mayweather,,,
All the name guys coming off losses should use ortiz to spring back,, except for khan,, i think ortiz would def ko him, but it would be fun to watch,,
The heartless vs the chinless
you guys wouldnt want to see ortiz-broner,, ortiz-berto 2, ortiz-khan, etc
Just throw him in with name fighters on the undercards,, He still has value since ortiz is always entertaining regardless if he wins or loses or quits
I can accept Ortiz-Berto 2 because their careers are in the basement. He who loses should seriously think about retirement.
you guys wouldnt want to see ortiz-broner,, ortiz-berto 2, ortiz-khan, etc
Just throw him in with name fighters on the undercards,, He still has value since ortiz is always entertaining regardless if he wins or loses or quits
There's no way they don't enjoy watch Ortrees get knocked out or made to quit.
no one is gonna take him serious anymore even if he did manage to pull off a good come back run.. the thought of him quitting is already planted into everyones mind. its not like he quit just once...
He just got koed in 2 rounds to collazo after being beating by Lopez,after he lost to floyd. And he also has that embarrassing defeat to maidana. What the hell you talking about cash him out? He's done already.
They lost their opportunity to cash him out. Instead of putting him in with Collazo they should have put him right into a big fight.
Hard tocash out on anything noteworthy if he keeps losing tune-ups
I really don't think there is anywhere for Ortiz to go now.
you guys wouldnt want to see ortiz-broner,, ortiz-berto 2, ortiz-khan, etc
Just throw him in with name fighters on the undercards,, He still has value since ortiz is always entertaining regardless if he wins or loses or quits