I did the light middles so lets look at the heavies:
1. Wlad
2. Povetkin
3. Stiverne
4. Pulev
5. Fury
6. Chisora
7. Arreola
8. Jennings
9. Solis
10. Helenius
the last 2 just about hang in there cos I just don't think the likes of Chagaev, Adamek, Wilder, Mitchell, Banks, Price and co are worthy of a top 10 finish.
What do you guys think?
I think Solis is skilled, he can fight well when he wants to and is motivated to get into shape, which he did against Vitali and in that one round he looked good. Not special, not "I'm gonna whoop Vitali" good, but better than the crap we've seen previously.
Sad thing is Solis got injured and since then has gone back to fighting nobodies. But who else can there be in the top 10? I don't agree with him being top 3 but top 10 definitely.
He's taking a very hard fight in Tony Thompson.
I think Solis is skilled, he can fight well when he wants to and is motivated to get into shape, which he did against Vitali and in that one round he looked good. Not special, not "I'm gonna whoop Vitali" good, but better than the crap we've seen previously.
Sad thing is Solis got injured and since then has gone back to fighting nobodies. But who else can there be in the top 10? I don't agree with him being top 3 but top 10 definitely.
Solis beats Wlad as soon as he gets a decent promotor to force the fight.
He is a lazy mofo, not that he has to even try to beat those guys he is facing.
In one round agains Vitali he did more than the rest of the division in years.
Its not a beauty contest.
Solis is a fat turd who hasn't done anything since turning pro. He shouldn't be on any top ten list.
Unless that top ten list was over people who can get from 200 pounds to 260 pounds the quickest and look like crap doing it.
In which case, he'd by #1.
Solis #3?
Jesus Christ.
Solis beats Wlad as soon as he gets a decent promotor to force the fight.
He is a lazy mofo, not that he has to even try to beat those guys he is facing.
In one round agains Vitali he did more than the rest of the division in years.
Its not a beauty contest.
This is a really good list. The only suggestion I have is to maybe replace Arreola with Andy Ruiz Jr. because they're both Mexicans, but Andy has the slight weight advantage. In today's HW era, the more you weigh, the better you are. That's how future hall-of-famer Valuev got to 46-0.
thanks for reminding me about that fat sh#t. i almost puked up my lunch.
on a serious note, i'd love to see that fight as long as they wear shirts.
1. wilder-most dominant heavyweight in history. stats prove this
2. seth michell
3. bryan or bryant jennings whatever his name is he's great
4. povetkin-beat wlad by dq on my card
5. wlad only for his longevity even though he should be dq'd in almost every fight
6. tyson fury-the next tye fields?
7. chisora
8. pulev
9. steevern stivern steven, nevermind arreola
10. francisco pinata
This is a really good list. The only suggestion I have is to maybe replace Arreola with Andy Ruiz Jr. because they're both Mexicans and Mexicans are awesome, but Andy has the slight weight advantage. In today's HW era, the more you weigh, the better you are. That's how future hall-of-famer Valuev got to 46-0.
1. wilder-most dominant heavyweight in history. stats prove this
2. seth michell
3. bryan or bryant jennings whatever his name is he's great
4. povetkin-beat wlad by dq on my card
5. wlad only for his longevity even though he should be dq'd in almost every fight
6. tyson fury-the next tye fields?
7. chisora
8. pulev
9. steevern stivern steven, nevermind arreola
10. francisco pinata
Yoz, I know you have got love for Haye.
Why deny it?
:lol1:
I don't mind him, when he comes to fight.
Its the BS and smoke-and-mirrors etc. that pisses me off.
Adamek should be top 10 imo. I know he is faded and he blatantly ducked Pulev, but he does have wins over Arreola and (officially) Cunningham.
Solis is not top 10. I don't care how "skilled" he is, his best win is Ray Austin, and it was 3 years ago.
Oh, and Helenius is nowhere near the top 10 imo. His only claims to fame are a KO over a shotter than shot Lyakhovich, and a robbery of the year contender "win" over Chisora.
Agreed. Good post. Just because Adamek has the balls to actually fight good competition, he doesn't look as good as other's who fight competition much below them. Arreola shouldn't be near a top 10. Adamek? Hell yes. Can't forget he's tried to fight Haye, Solis and Povetkin and none of them would sign.
Adamek should be top 10 imo. I know he is faded and he blatantly ducked Pulev, but he does have wins over Arreola and (officially) Cunningham.
Solis is not top 10. I don't care how "skilled" he is, his best win is Ray Austin, and it was 3 years ago.
Oh, and Helenius is nowhere near the top 10 imo. His only claims to fame are a KO over a shotter than shot Lyakhovich, and a robbery of the year contender "win" over Chisora.
Why is Adamek on so many lists? He fought once last year against a nobody and before that, in 2012 fought Cunningham and should have lost, Fury blasted Cunningham away. If Adamek must be on there, surely he isn't a top 3 guy.
Perez shouldn't be on that list and Wilder is barely top 20 so far.
Adamek is not a top 5 guy anymore at all.
He should be somewhere around 7-10. Even though he beat Arreola, I think Arreola has proven over the last couple of years that he's progressed more to the extent where I'd consider him a healthy favourite should he fight Adamek again.
A better question would be why so many people have Solis on their list?
it's a sad, sad world :crying:
what an awful top 10. how the mighty have fallen.
i'd provide some unput, but i just don't give enough of a ****.
i want to see a few guys fight each other. arreola, fury, wilder, chisora, are at least capable of being in some good fights. pulev is a decent fighter, but he's been in stinkers.
wladimir is a great fighter, but he hasn't been in an exciting fight in several years.
It truly truly is.
They don't want to fight each other. Each are waiting for a payday call from the klitschkos.
It's pathetic. It's already ripped of talent as it is, to make matters worse, they don't fight each other.
Why is Adamek on so many lists? He fought once last year against a nobody and before that, in 2012 fought Cunningham and should have lost, Fury blasted Cunningham away. If Adamek must be on there, surely he isn't a top 3 guy.
Perez shouldn't be on that list and Wilder is barely top 20 so far.
because vitali beat him so that makes adamek great even if he just stood there and took punches for 10 straight rounds like an idiot. he also lost to cunningham and chambers, almost lost to 60 year old grant and almost lost to jason estrada. its safe to say he's a legitimate tomato can and a future wilder ko 1 victim
A lot of the fighters in HW division need more fights to be ranked properly.
I'll just say that Mike Perez is a lot better than people think. Don't base him on his last performance, he was not mentally the same. A 3-month break will help a lot.
And Deontay Wilder is going to surprise people. All of his sparring will soon pay off.
you've got to weigh the last fight the heaviest when ranking contemporary fighters. we can't excuse the poor guy for not being there mentally, even if he had a good reason.
i'm not sure if perez will ever be the same. we certainly can't credit him with a ranking based on the assumption that he will be. in addition to almost killing a man with a family, he took hellish punishment in victory.