My nephew recently started training in a local boxing gym. I've been there every day with him just to take it all in and I am on the verge of signing up myself. But I was watching one of the better more known/successful fighters in the gym shadow boxing in the mirror with himself and he was jabbing way higher than his own head. Was he simulating fighting a taller opponent or are jabs generally thrown angled upwards and I just haven't been paying attention my whole life? I thought you were supposed to SNAP the jab? He looked like he was pushing up.
Please advise...
Conditioning, conditioning, conditioning. It's more tiring to jab high, so when you spar/fight and have to jab straight, your jab will be flying and you'll be able to throw many of them without tiring.
I wonder how your theories work against a smaller or same height opponent.......
He may have been practicing for a taller opponent, and if it was so noticeable, he likely was just not "practicing" for the sake of practice. At the same time, the TS comment that he was "pushing" rather than "snapping" shows that he had the wrong idea and had not been taught or monitored correctly.
The left shoulder will automatically rise if the jab is thrown properly (assuming the guy has muscles) and the correct 3/4 sideway stance allows a proper tucked-in chin. It does not depend on the height of the opponent or target (as long as he isn't a midget). What's the purpose of aiming at the crosspiece of the headgear anyway?. I'm not well-up on stuff with headgear, because when I boxed, there was no headgear used either in sparring or competitive bouts.
****If he is boxing out of a crouch, and his opponent isn't, that may be a reason to punch higher, because assuming equal heights, the chin/face isn't much higher than the shoulder/stretched out arm. Anotehr point i forgot, is that when you deliver a jab correctly your feet are fairly wide apart, thus automatically lowering your shoulder height.****
I recall in our gym we had a sort of relic thrown around on the glove and mitt table, looked like the old-fashioned thin leather helmet, but was falling to pieces, must have been already 50 years old. Nobody ever used it.
You are looking way too deep into this. The reason you go over things in the gym in this way, is because you are trying to teach good habits. You don't turn the front foot when throwing a hook all the time in sparring, yet you teach that on the bag or on the mitts so you develop good habits.
It's the same in jabbing high, you do that so you have a proper level and you tuck that chin in. You will not always tuck that chin in if you throw a proper jab, many kids I have worked with throw and straight, snapping jab but do it low and therefore are missing technique.
He could be working on fighting a taller opponent but I see that high jab technique all the time and it's more to do with just teaching good habits.
I've actually heard jabbing upwards is bad form.. I used to throw jabs high by default and was scrutinized for it. I guess go with what your trainer tells you. Everyone else is wrong. lol jk
Neither.
He was being taught properly and that's why he was jabbing higher than his own head. You should always jab higher like that because it forces you to tuck your chin naturally into your own shoulder.
Watch videos of Victor Ortiz hit pads or shadow, he really exaggerates it. It just creates good habits. When you get in your stance, you should be lower than your shots to naturally tuck your chin into your shoulder and have a defensive stance when landing punches.
I wonder how your theories work against a smaller or same height opponent.......
He may have been practicing for a taller opponent, and if it was so noticeable, he likely was just not "practicing" for the sake of practice. At the same time, the TS comment that he was "pushing" rather than "snapping" shows that he had the wrong idea and had not been taught or monitored correctly.
The left shoulder will automatically rise if the jab is thrown properly (assuming the guy has muscles) and the correct 3/4 sideway stance allows a proper tucked-in chin. It does not depend on the height of the opponent or target (as long as he isn't a midget). What's the purpose of aiming at the crosspiece of the headgear anyway?. I'm not well-up on stuff with headgear, because when I boxed, there was no headgear used either in sparring or competitive bouts.
****If he is boxing out of a crouch, and his opponent isn't, that may be a reason to punch higher, because assuming equal heights, the chin/face isn't much higher than the shoulder/stretched out arm. Anotehr point i forgot, is that when you deliver a jab correctly your feet are fairly wide apart, thus automatically lowering your shoulder height.****
I recall in our gym we had a sort of relic thrown around on the glove and mitt table, looked like the old-fashioned thin leather helmet, but was falling to pieces, must have been already 50 years old. Nobody ever used it.
If you watch any of Ricky Burns' training sessions he does this. As others have said, it's good practice, brings your hands back into a good defensive position.
I was also taught to hit higher than my head. I think people have a natural tendency to go straight out and that causes you to hit the opponent at chest level rather then the face.
You seem to be one of the more knowledgeable cats to reply to this so far. What's my nephew supposed to be doing with his back foot when he's throwing these high jabs? Is he raising up to the ball of his foot? It's a big gym and lots of trainers come and give little tips here and there to dudes they see working on different things. But I want to be able to give him input when they aren't focusing on him.
Every trainer teaches different, I teach a stance where your back heel is slightly off the ground. When you jab, it shouldn't come up because most likely you would be reaching if you are doing that.
You can jab with or without stepping, if you step while you jab, then you should just be pushing off the back foot and not picking it up anymore than usual.
One of the biggest problems people have is, lifting the head or feet when punching, it leaves you off balance and takes power off your shots.
Stay low, elbows on your body, head steady, jab high so the chin tucks naturally into the shoulder, and snap the jab out in a fast, short, straight line.
Little pointer, don't let your chin pass the front knee. Your balance should be under you at all time, reaching or leaning is a big no, no in boxing.
I get on my kids all the time and make sure they throw really high punches. Do the same when they hit the heavy bag as well.
Of course you won't do it all the time in a fight but it will generate good habits.
You seem to be one of the more knowledgeable cats to reply to this so far. What's my nephew supposed to be doing with his back foot when he's throwing these high jabs? Is he raising up to the ball of his foot? It's a big gym and lots of trainers come and give little tips here and there to dudes they see working on different things. But I want to be able to give him input when they aren't focusing on him.
You seem to be one of the more knowledgeable cats to reply to this so far. What's my nephew supposed to be doing with his back foot when he's throwing these high jabs? Is he raising up to the ball of his foot? It's a big gym and lots of trainers come and give little tips here and there to dudes they see working on different things. But I want to be able to give him input when they aren't focusing on him.
I get on my kids all the time and make sure they throw really high punches. Do the same when they hit the heavy bag as well.
Of course you won't do it all the time in a fight but it will generate good habits.
Neither.
He was being taught properly and that's why he was jabbing higher than his own head. You should always jab higher like that because it forces you to tuck your chin naturally into your own shoulder.
Watch videos of Victor Ortiz hit pads or shadow, he really exaggerates it. It just creates good habits. When you get in your stance, you should be lower than your shots to naturally tuck your chin into your shoulder and have a defensive stance when landing punches.
Cuah beat me to it. Victor Ortiz does it to a higher degree than anyone else I've seen doing it.
If you throw them higher shadow boxing it works out your shoulders more making them stronger throwing it straight out isnt that much of a work out after a while plus you will be normally throwing them at an upward angle in a fight unless you are fighting shorter opponents and their heads are at shoulder level. Plus when you throw your jab up your shoulder blocks your chin protecting you from someone coming over the top
You're supposed to jab higher than your head. When I first started I had a very had habit of jabbing at chest level (my chest). That was fixed real quick.
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