There's a never ending discussion about Floyd cherry picking his opponents claiming he always takes the easiest fights. I don't necessarily agree or disagree with one side over the other. But please do me a favor and list the four people you would most like to see Floyd fight in order of their threat level to Floyd. Which four fighters should be on Floyd's radar to end his six fight contract with Showtime.
No trolls or dumb **** please.
Serious discussion only.
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If "Martinez is there for the taking" then why do you want to see it?
You say you only want to see competitive fights then you're telling him to fight a guy who by your own accord is there for the taking.
because it would be a good fight. martinez is there for the taking in my opinion, but that doesnt automatically mean mayweather will win. what boxing fan wouldnt want to watch the welterweight champion stepping up to the plate and taking on the middleweight champion? its fights like that that adds to your legacy.
Would be nice to see Mayweather at 154 for his last few fights.
Why?
He's not going to fight at a weight that he can't even make unless it's worth it money wise.
Then he should vacate the belt at JMW, either he's big enough to fight at the weight or he isn't. He can't say "this guy" but not "this guy", boxing works on weight limits. If he's JMW champ he should be willing to fight anyone who makes weight, otherwise get off the pot and give the belt back.
Also, if he is fighting at 147 he should fight the guys the boxing public want him to fight, not the guys he feels like fighting.
These aren't unreasonable requests.
He will vacate it most likely. I doubt he ever fights there again unless another big money opportunity arises which looks unlikely.
At 147, which is his weight, all he has to do is fight the top fighters there or the best options available which he's been doing for a while now anyway.
he doesnt have to. but your not going to see a competitive fight at welterweight involving floyd mayweather unless its against pacman.
name any welterweight you like, the expected results would be mayweather by wide UD. he is clearly far too skilled for these guys, so the point is, why not move up, fight a bigger guy to equalize mayweathers skill advantage a bit and we might see mayweather in a competitive fight. as floyd himself likes to preach, skills pay the bills, weight isnt ish etc etc.
martinez is there for the taking, and in my opinion mayweather would get the w should them two fight. as i said, he doesnt have to, but great champions look for great challenges. if you claim you are the greatest of all time, prove it. you cant say khan is a great challenge. all that fight would be about is money.
If "Martinez is there for the taking" then why do you want to see it?
You say you only want to see competitive fights then you're telling him to fight a guy who by your own accord is there for the taking.
Fights that Fraud will dodge in the order I want to see them;
GGG @154 - favourite over floyd and I would bet on this.
Pac - obv
Thurman - one time all the time
Martinez @154 only if he looks great vs cotto
Cotto 2 - if he beats martinez
Bradley - he was beaten 118-110 by pac not high on tim.
Porter - young hungry and can rough him up
Maidana - will fight till the death no canelo freeze up ***** ****.
Butterbean - in a 3 rounder with small ring.
Roided up Rigondeux
There are competitive fights in Mayweathers weigh class.
And even if there wasn't he shouldn't be expected to fight career MWs when he comes to the ring at 150 lbs.
Like I said I've never seen such high standards expected for a fighter.
Then he should vacate the belt at JMW, either he's big enough to fight at the weight or he isn't. He can't say "this guy" but not "this guy", boxing works on weight limits. If he's JMW champ he should be willing to fight anyone who makes weight, otherwise get off the pot and give the belt back.
Also, if he is fighting at 147 he should fight the guys the boxing public want him to fight, not the guys he feels like fighting.
These aren't unreasonable requests.
I understand but why does Mayweather have to move up in weight just to see a credible fight and others don't?
Pacquaio-Bradley's a credible fight but Mayweather-Bradley isn't? Why?
Why doesn't Pacquaio have to go to 160 and fight Golovkin to get a credible fight? Mayweather's not much bigger than Pacquaio they're about the same size, Mayweather being the sligther bigger of the two.
Golovkin against any of the top MW's would be credible. Golovkin-Macklin was considered credible but Mayweather-Thurman isn't?
Seems clear to me that Mayweather's being held to a higher standard because he's apparently he's too good for his weight class.
I mean, which other fighter who comes to the ring 3 lbs above his weight class has not a single fighter in his weight class that's considered a credible fight?
he doesnt have to. but your not going to see a competitive fight at welterweight involving floyd mayweather unless its against pacman.
name any welterweight you like, the expected results would be mayweather by wide UD. he is clearly far too skilled for these guys, so the point is, why not move up, fight a bigger guy to equalize mayweathers skill advantage a bit and we might see mayweather in a competitive fight. as floyd himself likes to preach, skills pay the bills, weight isnt ish etc etc.
martinez is there for the taking, and in my opinion mayweather would get the w should them two fight. as i said, he doesnt have to, but great champions look for great challenges. if you claim you are the greatest of all time, prove it. you cant say khan is a great challenge. all that fight would be about is money.
I understand but why does Mayweather have to move up in weight just to see a credible fight and others don't?
Pacquaio-Bradley's a credible fight but Mayweather-Bradley isn't? Why?
Why doesn't Pacquaio have to go to 160 and fight Golovkin to get a credible fight? Mayweather's not much bigger than Pacquaio they're about the same size, Mayweather being the sligther bigger of the two.
Golovkin against any of the top MW's would be credible. Golovkin-Macklin was considered credible but Mayweather-Thurman isn't?
Seems clear to me that Mayweather's being held to a higher standard because he's apparently he's too good for his weight class.
I mean, which other fighter who comes to the ring 3 lbs above his weight class has not a single fighter in his weight class that's considered a credible fight?
If u go back a page below u will see the list I listed
Pacqiao
Khan
Lara
Bradley on it
Now putting a boxer in higher standard mean u want them to accomplish more impossible stuff
Now if u ask them to fight light heavies now that too much and stupid
I do find your list to be insulting to ur idol Floyd
To think that maidana is a risky fight for Floyd tell me that u don't trust Floyd's skills that much
I'm sorry
By the way ur ggg vs mcklin
Macklin fought Martinez and bunch of top opponents
Macklin is tested
Turman? Come on his green
I think the stuff that comes out of mayweather's mouth puts him at
a higher standard. Can't say stuff like you're the best ever, then go
fight a Guerrero, or you're being suited up for Amir Khan next. That's asking
for trouble. Lol
Originally Posted by IronDanHamza
I understand but why does Mayweather have to move up in weight just to see a credible fight and others don't?
Pacquaio-Bradley's a credible fight but Mayweather-Bradley isn't? Why?
Why doesn't Pacquaio have to go to 160 and fight Golovkin to get a credible fight? Mayweather's not much bigger than Pacquaio they're about the same size, Mayweather being the sligther bigger of the two.
Golovkin against any of the top MW's would be credible. Golovkin-Macklin was considered credible but Mayweather-Thurman isn't?
Seems clear to me that Mayweather's being held to a higher standard because he's apparently he's too good for his weight class.
I mean, which other fighter who comes to the ring 3 lbs above his weight class has not a single fighter in his weight class that's considered a credible fight?
You are trolling this is nothing new it's been happening before you came out the nut sac. Again,Floyd is not the first or will be the last fighter that will be held to a higher standard. Let me guess "it's because Iam black" you really are a clown
How the hell is he trolling?
He just gave a common sense detailed explanation and you say "he's trolling"?WTF
Floyd started at 130Lbs and went up to 154Lbs.
and hecant even make 154. He said live in the ring after the Oscar fight that he came in at 149 and they just went ahead anmd marked it at 150.
he barely can make 150 on fight night. he's clearly maxed out his weight. he cant go up anymore.
You are trolling this is nothing new it's been happening before you came out the nut sac. Again,Floyd is not the first or will be the last fighter that will be held to a higher standard. Let me guess "it's because Iam black" you really are a clown
:nonono: :pat:
Please, go ahead and give me an example of a fighter who comes to the ring 3 lbs north of his weight class and can't fight a single fighter in that weight class that's considered credible.
Of course fighters are held to higher standards than others (They shouldn't be but that's simply how it is) but how many fighters HAVE to move up in weight just to have a credible opponent? When the Division hasn't been cleaned out no less, and there's plenty of contenders/ranking champions that haven't been fought? I can't think of one.
I understand but why does Mayweather have to move up in weight just to see a credible fight and others don't?
Pacquaio-Bradley's a credible fight but Mayweather-Bradley isn't? Why?
Why doesn't Pacquaio have to go to 160 and fight Golovkin to get a credible fight? Mayweather's not much bigger than Pacquaio they're about the same size, Mayweather being the sligther bigger of the two.
Golovkin against any of the top MW's would be credible. Golovkin-Macklin was considered credible but Mayweather-Thurman isn't?
Seems clear to me that Mayweather's being held to a higher standard because he's apparently he's too good for his weight class.
I mean, which other fighter who comes to the ring 3 lbs above his weight class has not a single fighter in his weight class that's considered a credible fight?
You are trolling this is nothing new it's been happening before you came out the nut sac. Again,Floyd is not the first or will be the last fighter that will be held to a higher standard. Let me guess "it's because Iam black" you really are a clown
Pacquiao even at 50% is better than any other welterweight.
marquez put a sizable dent in that theory, and beating rios really doesn't help to remove said dent.
It comes to all fighter i mean if u really like a fighter dont u want to see him beat top opponents that u think is impossible for him to do?
If ur doin the opposite then ur just protecting your favorite fighter
Like for me im a GGG fan i want to see againts ward
Like for pacquiao also i wanted him to fight bradley and then he did which is a really big credit for him from a fan like me
I understand but why does Mayweather have to move up in weight just to see a credible fight and others don't?
Pacquaio-Bradley's a credible fight but Mayweather-Bradley isn't? Why?
Why doesn't Pacquaio have to go to 160 and fight Golovkin to get a credible fight? Mayweather's not much bigger than Pacquaio they're about the same size, Mayweather being the sligther bigger of the two.
Golovkin against any of the top MW's would be credible. Golovkin-Macklin was considered credible but Mayweather-Thurman isn't?
Seems clear to me that Mayweather's being held to a higher standard because he's apparently he's too good for his weight class.
I mean, which other fighter who comes to the ring 3 lbs above his weight class has not a single fighter in his weight class that's considered a credible fight?
There are competitive fights in Mayweathers weigh class.
And even if there wasn't he shouldn't be expected to fight career MWs when he comes to the ring at 150 lbs.
Like I said I've never seen such high standards expected for a fighter.
It comes to all fighter i mean if u really like a fighter dont u want to see him beat top opponents that u think is impossible for him to do?
If ur doin the opposite then ur just protecting your favorite fighter
Like for me im a GGG fan i want to see againts ward
Like for pacquiao also i wanted him to fight bradley and then he did which is a really big credit for him from a fan like me
There are competitive fights in Mayweathers weigh class.
And even if there wasn't he shouldn't be expected to fight career MWs when he comes to the ring at 150 lbs.
Like I said I've never seen such high standards expected for a fighter.
Then you are new to boxing if you never seen such high standards for a fighter. This has been going on before you came out the nut sac. Floyd is not the first or the last, hate to burst your bubble
Pac, Lara, Bradley, Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Andrade
These guys would all push him and make it a tough fight. Khan is a complete joke imo.
You said the same thing about Cotto, Guererro and Canelo.
You even went as far as saying both Canelo and Cotto would stop Mayweather.
It's pretty clear that after Mayweather beats the guy you pick to beat him you'll just change your mind and pretend that was a cherry pick and find a new guy who you think beats him.
Pacquiao even at 50% is better than any other welterweight.
I don't know that as it stands.
I have absolutely no idea how much Pacquaio has left after the KO so until I see otherwise I'm not interested.
The Bradley rematch will answer that question though.