Why didn't Dariusz Michalczewski & RJJ ever fight?

Jones had zero, zilch, absolutely no interest in going to Germany, regardless of how much money was on the table.Wrong. He has more than once indicated he was willing to but not for less than DM was getting.

I thought it was Ripped Fuel.I seem to remember Creatine and a few articles out there show Creatine....maybe it is what is inside Ripped Fuel.....I don't follow those things but it was from GNC at the time.

Not like Dariusz's painfully slow punches would've ever found it. Dariusz's chin wasn't too hot either for that matter. you think dariusz's punches are slow,,, I never thought of him that way,, I dont think he was super fast, but didnt think he was slow,, i think he punches about as fast as a pavlik, ggg, glen johnson

As opposed to the United States, which is known for consistently rendering fair and just scorecards? He was the man at that weight during the late 90's, unquestionably. He is a pro black power floyd fanboy just ignore him

Since we are speculating, it might also have been Jones's team knowing that Jones had a jaw of crystal. Not like Dariusz's painfully slow punches would've ever found it. Dariusz's chin wasn't too hot either for that matter.

Absolutely not. I think I've made that quite clear. Of course not. But you've asked the question, why would Dariusz and Kohl have agreed to the proposed double header, without a guaranteed shot at Roy afterwards? But the point I'm making, is that no negotiations ever took place, because Kohl refused the mere proposal of it. Now it seems obvious to me, that if HBO had brought Dariusz over to the U.S. to fight on Roy's card, to both introduce him to the U.S. public, and to hype the fight, then of course they would have been an agreement/contract that both fighters would have met afterwards. There's no way that Davis and HBO would have gone to the trouble and expense, to not have them meet afterwards. It seems to me, that you're implying that if HBO had offered a guaranteed shot at Roy afterwards, along with the proposed double header, then things may have turned out different? But there's no evidence to support that theory. Because we know that Davis first tried to negotiate for a fight and only came up with the proposed double header, because Kohl was never available. Also, we know that Kohl flat out refused the idea. It seems clear to me, that they had no intentions of going to the U.S. regardless.

I thought it was Ripped Fuel. Yeah. That's what Jones said. The substance (or product) was never disclosed though. All we know is that it was a steroid. Hell it could have been testosterone.

Do you think that Kohl would have agreed to let DM fight on a double header, without there being an agreement to fight Roy after? Absolutely not. I think I've made that quite clear.

Or maybe he was happy selling Dariusz as the guy who "the best fighter in the world is scared to face." And then have him fight Jones leftovers and look horrible in the process. Since we are speculating, it might also have been Jones's team knowing that Jones had a jaw of crystal.

mical refused to fight out of germany, he wanted the p4p king to fight in his backyard mical and co. were content dodging roy

STOP WITH THE BULLSHT!!!!!!!!!!!! I followed EVERY single article and every single bit of information for years regarding this! Jones NEVER asked for 20 -25 million, that is CRAP you are pulling out of your ass! The prospects for a Dariusz Michalczewski bout are "$20-25 million to fight him in Germany. After what happened in Korea, that's what I need. He barely beat Richard Hall. They can say linear all they want to. Who got a win over James Toney, Reggie Johnson, Vinny Pazienza, and Hopkins? He don't wanna fight these guys." Jones had zero, zilch, absolutely no interest in going to Germany, regardless of how much money was on the table. http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/a/2002/0904/1427215.html

Kohl did try to get Jones to Germany multiple times. Jones flat out refused to go. Roy made it clear that he didn't want to go to Germany. In 2001, he said "I don't think a knockout would be enough over there!" But Kohl would never sit down with HBO to discuss terms for Dariusz to fight in the U.S. Again, go and look at his resume. It's quite clear what his intentions were.

Yeah, but as I understood it there was no guaranteed fight with Roy which probably was a major issue. I mean why should DM leave a truckload of money behind in Europe without a guaranteed subsequent moneyspinner against Jones? Do you think that Kohl would have agreed to let DM fight on a double header, without there being an agreement to fight Roy after?

Jones said he bought what at the time was over the counter Creatine. And Hall also tested positive for something. That was the only time Jones ever tested positive for anything. They pulled Creatine off the shelves eventually. I thought it was Ripped Fuel.

The first part sounds right - another typical promoter beef. Admittedly, I don't recall what happened there. I do recall the WBA asking Michalzewski to defend against their mandatory and he opting to defend the WBO mandatory instead. So they stripped him. And you're right about Andro. I don't believe they ever divulged what Jones and Hall tested positive for.Jones said he bought what at the time was over the counter Creatine. And Hall also tested positive for something. That was the only time Jones ever tested positive for anything. They pulled Creatine off the shelves eventually.

Is your name after the rapper Blu? Yes it is.

Why didn't they just meet on neutral ground? Like Japan, South Korea, South Africa, or Australia. Is your name after the rapper Blu?

Why didn't they just meet on neutral ground? Like Japan, South Korea, South Africa, or Australia.

He was pretty wellknown in eastern Europe and poland as well... I dont know the timeline of the Daily news articles, but I know Kohl was pissed of at Jones not being willing to commit. Maybe he got tired of playing games. Or maybe he was happy selling Dariusz as the guy who "the best fighter in the world is scared to face." And then have him fight Jones leftovers and look horrible in the process.

Well he was a superstar in Germany, not Europe. And he had other opportunities to fight Jones in the states aside from the undercard. I remember the NY Daily News giving us a weekly play-by-play on negotiations. HBO stepped in an attempt to meet with Kohl and after weeks of playing tag they decided he really wasn't interested in fighting Jones. He was pretty wellknown in eastern Europe and poland as well... I dont know the timeline of the Daily news articles, but I know Kohl was pissed of at Jones not being willing to commit. Maybe he got tired of playing games.