he is truly the only fighter that doesn't duck anyone, is a warrior, and a fighter whol is always fighting the top man when ever
guys like floyd and pac might be better boxers, but they don't fight the best, they fight good fighters, but not the ones they should the cream of the crop
cotto is that fighter
Yeah seems some people are confused about the word resume...Cotto has a good resume, his results from it aren't as great however. He has a very strong list of opponents though, more so than many other fighters recently anyway. As he says himself sometimes "I want the big names" or whatever he says, who else talks that way and really means it? The guy would fight anyone.
Yep, Cotto does, more often than not fight the best. It's just a shame he ran into Magy and Pac at 147 and was never big enough to be THE MAN at 154, even though a post prime Cotto in his least effective weight gave Mayweather even more trouble than Hatton and almost as much as DLH.
Mosley, Quintana, Malignaggi, Judah, Urkal, Gomez, Clottey, Foreman, and Margarito aren't enough? He's a 4 time, 3 division champion in an era where granted they don't mean as much as they used to, but that goes for fighters with titles to a degree.
He doesn't need the lineal MW title to be a first ballot HOF. That's more than secure. I'd bet my account he goes in on his first ballot.
Agree totally, ma ***** Cotto is a 1st ballot HOFer, seriously, anyone can make it into the HOF when you have Gatti in there and a fictional fighter such as Rocky lol
If floyd wouldve of fought cotto's resume would he still be undeafeted?
Hard to say.. you'd have to be extremely blessed to make it through such a rigorous pace. That's a marathon of pure suck. Cotto deserves to walk away from the sport right now, he's given his fans everything he has.. he's just too damned stubborn to lay over and let past transgressions define his legacy. Glad he got his vindication against Margarito and I'm thrilled he's seeking out Martinez's lineal belt despite his shortcomings.
It's going to be grand reading about him in the history books years from now, how he raised hell against all the greats in his era and carried himself on an equal pedestal despite never winning "The Big One". Maybe Martinez is the ticket .
he is truly the only fighter that doesn't duck anyone, is a warrior, and a fighter whol is always fighting the top man when ever
guys like floyd and pac might be better boxers, but they don't fight the best, they fight good fighters, but not the ones they should the cream of the crop
cotto is that fighter
Cotto is that fighter who ducked Paul Williams and fought Margarito instead who Paul Willaims beat,Ducked Sergio Martinez when he was at his prime, and fought the weakest belt holder at 154 called Yuri Foreman.Never made any attempts at unifying his 140 pound WBO belt with Floyd WBC belt when Floyd wanted to unify.Sorry but we have plenty of Cotto`s in the fight game,one of them is called Manny Pacquiao.
What would boxing's landscape even look like if Cotto carried the sport today? If only he passed on Tony and fought P-Will instead, and won. Maybe Shane still would've wrecked Margs. It's been interesting to watch his style transform over the years. I'll always have him to thank for introducing me to boxing.
It isn't his best and most comfortable weight, but I think he's skilled enough at it to defeat Erislandy Lara. Obviously though, as you say, it doesn't bring enough $$$ to bring Floyd to play ball.
Perhaps but it still isn't his weight though.
He's probably skilled enough to beat some of the contenders at 160 it doesn't mean that's his weight.
His weight is 147.
Perhaps on paper but not if you look beyond it.
Mayweather isn't a Jr MW. He comes to the ring at 150 lbs and has never weighed more than 151 lbs at a weigh in.
We know he only fights at 154 for huge money because that's not his weight.
It's like if Cotto wins against Martinez and expecting him to fight Golovkin next despite the fact it's obvious he's not a MW and he will definitely be returning to his actual weight which is JMW.
JMW isn't Mayweathers weight. He fights there when a big money opportunity comes along and solely for that and does it whilst being very small for the weight.
It isn't his best and most comfortable weight, but I think he's skilled enough at it to defeat Erislandy Lara. Obviously though, as you say, it doesn't bring enough $$$ to bring Floyd to play ball.
Correct me if i am wrong..but didnt manny and floyd both beat cotto and take his title belt???whats cottos best win???Shane??didnt manny and floyd also beat him as well and much better??? Cotto is forced to do what he is trying to do..he is at the end of his career and wants to cash out...nothing wrong with that at all..but lets not act like he is some king here...dude is 1-2 in his last 3 fights,has no title and is still acting like a damn diva
Didn't Floyd and Manny fight Shane 4 and 5 years later? Yea, they did.
When you're the lineal champion at a weight, I think it shows you have considerable skill at that weight and that you're the best in the world at it. Asking them to fight #1 contender isn't asking too much.
Perhaps on paper but not if you look beyond it.
Mayweather isn't a Jr MW. He comes to the ring at 150 lbs and has never weighed more than 151 lbs at a weigh in.
We know he only fights at 154 for huge money because that's not his weight.
It's like if Cotto wins against Martinez and expecting him to fight Golovkin next despite the fact it's obvious he's not a MW and he will definitely be returning to his actual weight which is JMW.
JMW isn't Mayweathers weight. He fights there when a big money opportunity comes along and solely for that and does it whilst being very small for the weight.
Meaningless? So top 10 contenders don't count for anything anymore?
If they are crappy fighters then yeah sure, they shouldn't count for anything. Also being in the top 10 doesn't neccesarily mean you are a contender.
Cotto is a great champion and a true professional. There's no reason for anyone to try to discredit him. I just wish all great fighters conducted themselves in the same manner.
I don't care about the hall of fame its just a comedy act these days, my issue is that you noted meaningless wins as if they mean something.
Meaningless? So top 10 contenders don't count for anything anymore?
Why are we pretending that Jr MW is Mayweather's weight?
When you're the lineal champion at a weight, I think it shows you have considerable skill at that weight and that you're the best in the world at it. Asking them to fight #1 contender isn't asking too much.
I like Cotto but lets be real, Cotto only fighting Martinez now because he think Martinez is done for. Cotto would never fight a Lara and this coming from a Cotto fan. I mean Cotto didnt even want to fight Floyd in his prime. Cotto wasn't ready after he saw his boy bruseles get beat down. Don't believe me go watch the fight yourself Sergio is decling but hasn't lost in a while. Manny us decling and was ktfo a lil while ago. Guess what Cotto is still moving up to fight Sergio while Floyd is still making excuses to not fight Floyd. That's the difference.
Correct me if i am wrong..but didnt manny and floyd both beat cotto and take his title belt???whats cottos best win???Shane??didnt manny and floyd also beat him as well and much better??? Cotto is forced to do what he is trying to do..he is at the end of his career and wants to cash out...nothing wrong with that at all..but lets not act like he is some king here...dude is 1-2 in his last 3 fights,has no title and is still acting like a damn diva
So since Floyd economically doesn't have to fight PAC, it's ok to u ??? Such a great fan u are.
Right? Asking the #1 P4P fighter in the world to fight the best at his weight? How dare us. :nonono:
Why are we pretending that Jr MW is Mayweather's weight?
Gatti got in 1st ballot cause he died man....simple as that...but will Cotto get in 1st ballot...yea most likely...should he???? hey thats up to the voters
Read the thread idiot it says "if" he was the best. Cotto's praise comes from him fighting the best and willing to fight the best. Not cherry pick, retire, and come back with excuses on how to avoid others. Cotto is the type of fighter boxing needs. If only all fighters were willing to face the best in their prime like he did and continues fighting the best.
Didn't Gatti just get in? His resume is better than Gatti's. Are we arguing if he's deserving or actually getting in? Two different debates.
I don't care about the hall of fame its just a comedy act these days, my issue is that you noted meaningless wins as if they mean something.